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When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?

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Trond:

--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 17, 2021, 12:00:42 PM ---….The first time I really grappled with SJW mealy mouth bullshit was George R. R. Martin tying to explain why the Sad/Sick puppies were a bad thing for his precious worldcon. Guy just couldn't or wouldn't come out and say what the problem was. Meanwhile his opponents could. ….

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Wut? George RR Martin? I’m not his biggest fan but I always thought he was relatively cool?

Eirikrautha:

--- Quote from: Trond on September 17, 2021, 06:35:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 17, 2021, 12:00:42 PM ---….The first time I really grappled with SJW mealy mouth bullshit was George R. R. Martin tying to explain why the Sad/Sick puppies were a bad thing for his precious worldcon. Guy just couldn't or wouldn't come out and say what the problem was. Meanwhile his opponents could. ….

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Wut? George RR Martin? I’m not his biggest fan but I always thought he was relatively cool?

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Hell no!  He championed giving no award in any category of the Hugos that a non-woke book looked like it had a chance to win.  He's part of the cult, only old and cantankerous enough that they really don't like him, either...

Trond:
OK, and what was the deal with the sad puppies?

Ghostmaker:

--- Quote from: Trond on September 17, 2021, 08:05:14 PM ---OK, and what was the deal with the sad puppies?

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As I understand it, Sad Puppies was the brainchild of Larry Correia, who was out to make the point that the Hugos had devolved into a circlejerk for the 'in' crowd at Worldcon. If you checked off the right diversity boxes, you got nominated, regardless of your work's quality.

This led to Larry and several other center-to-right authors campaigning for a slate of nominations, which resulted in the usual suspects losing their minds and culminating in the 'no award' bid, rather than vote for something nominated by (ew) conservatives.

Correia offers his explanation here: https://monsterhunternation.com/2014/04/24/an-explanation-about-the-hugo-awards-controversy/

After a few passes with the Sad Puppies, Correia more or less departed it to focus on, y'know, writing. He'd made his point, in his opinion. I suspect that he was also tired of dealing with Teddy Beale/Vox Day, who was running the 'Rabid Puppies' campaign -- which was Sad Puppies with no class at all.

oggsmash:
  Dealing with Vox Day would make a fucking champion triathlete exhausted.   That guy is as full of his own shit as anyone I have ever heard talk.

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