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Author Topic: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?  (Read 1495 times)

FelixGamingX1

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2021, 11:01:12 PM »
GamerGate, for me. Once video games became increasingly obnoxious (not just social justice, but also microtransactions and loot boxes), I started looking to traditional media for entertainment ithat was more permanent. Wasn't long after that Marvel NOW happened, then Disney buying Star Wars, movies deleting red headed characters (I'm red headed, as are my kids), etc. Miniature games were largely apolitical for a while. After BLM and Games Workshop telling their fans to go away, I came to RPGs - only to discover that they may be the most fucked bunch of them all.

Basically, since GamerGate, it has been moving from one hobby to another, just in time to see it collapse. It was like an apocalypse tour, with RPGs being post apocalypse (though I've found some amazing older stuff). Now, it appears I'm continuing my apocalypse tour with democracy and free speech. Have to admit, watching these fall stings.

I saw it in RPGs before Gamergate, but holy smokes how GG exposed how corrupt journalism had become. Not only games journalism mind you, as the mainstream media immediately threw themselves onto the same wagon. It was as if everyone was just parroting the same braindead “harassment campaign to drive out women” story.

I totally recommend picking up a copy of Tucker Carlson’s book. One of the best $15 bucks I ever spent. So much garbage is exposed it’s not even funny.
I'll consider picking it up f we have another shortage of toilet paper like in the spring of 2020.

Interesting, I can’t read while on the toilet. I find it unsanitary. The pandemic certainly turned me into a germophobe. What’s wrong with Tucker? Talks the truth?
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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2021, 11:03:47 PM »
GamerGate, for me. Once video games became increasingly obnoxious (not just social justice, but also microtransactions and loot boxes), I started looking to traditional media for entertainment ithat was more permanent. Wasn't long after that Marvel NOW happened, then Disney buying Star Wars, movies deleting red headed characters (I'm red headed, as are my kids), etc. Miniature games were largely apolitical for a while. After BLM and Games Workshop telling their fans to go away, I came to RPGs - only to discover that they may be the most fucked bunch of them all.

Basically, since GamerGate, it has been moving from one hobby to another, just in time to see it collapse. It was like an apocalypse tour, with RPGs being post apocalypse (though I've found some amazing older stuff). Now, it appears I'm continuing my apocalypse tour with democracy and free speech. Have to admit, watching these fall stings.

I saw it in RPGs before Gamergate, but holy smokes how GG exposed how corrupt journalism had become. Not only games journalism mind you, as the mainstream media immediately threw themselves onto the same wagon. It was as if everyone was just parroting the same braindead “harassment campaign to drive out women” story.

I totally recommend picking up a copy of Tucker Carlson’s book. One of the best $15 bucks I ever spent. So much garbage is exposed it’s not even funny.
I'll consider picking it up f we have another shortage of toilet paper like in the spring of 2020.
Who are you kidding?  We all know you can't read...

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2021, 11:16:59 PM »
I'll consider picking it up f we have another shortage of toilet paper like in the spring of 2020.

White Fragility is quite soft if you want recommendations.
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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2021, 11:22:47 PM »
I saw it in RPGs before Gamergate, but holy smokes how GG exposed how corrupt journalism had become. Not only games journalism mind you, as the mainstream media immediately threw themselves onto the same wagon. It was as if everyone was just parroting the same braindead “harassment campaign to drive out women” story.
I think it was Michael Crichton who coined the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. I'll just copy and paste the full quote for those who don't know it:

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“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton

GamerGate was when I became immune to Gell-Mann Amnesia. Honestly, it has served me well - especially over the past year and a half.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2021, 11:31:33 PM »
I'll consider picking it up f we have another shortage of toilet paper like in the spring of 2020.

White Fragility is quite soft if you want recommendations.

I was always bad at deciphering these. Could you ELI5? I’m still trying to understand white rage. Too many slangs, categories, boxes, I can’t keep up with all the nonsense. All I know is that I like the, if you are woke you’re loser term.
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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2021, 11:38:21 PM »
GamerGate, for me. Once video games became increasingly obnoxious (not just social justice, but also microtransactions and loot boxes), I started looking to traditional media for entertainment ithat was more permanent. Wasn't long after that Marvel NOW happened, then Disney buying Star Wars, movies deleting red headed characters (I'm red headed, as are my kids), etc. Miniature games were largely apolitical for a while. After BLM and Games Workshop telling their fans to go away, I came to RPGs - only to discover that they may be the most fucked bunch of them all.

Basically, since GamerGate, it has been moving from one hobby to another, just in time to see it collapse. It was like an apocalypse tour, with RPGs being post apocalypse (though I've found some amazing older stuff). Now, it appears I'm continuing my apocalypse tour with democracy and free speech. Have to admit, watching these fall stings.

I saw it in RPGs before Gamergate, but holy smokes how GG exposed how corrupt journalism had become. Not only games journalism mind you, as the mainstream media immediately threw themselves onto the same wagon. It was as if everyone was just parroting the same braindead “harassment campaign to drive out women” story.

I totally recommend picking up a copy of Tucker Carlson’s book. One of the best $15 bucks I ever spent. So much garbage is exposed it’s not even funny.
I'll consider picking it up f we have another shortage of toilet paper like in the spring of 2020.
Who are you kidding?  We all know you can't read...
Obviously you can't read, as I stated I would only use Tucker's book to wipe my ass.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2021, 07:45:07 AM »
Obviously you can't read, as I stated I would only use Tucker's book to wipe my ass.
And there it is, the tried and true “no YOU can’t read”.

Happydaze, I’m not interested in hearing about you crapping, and even less interested in your threadcrapping.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2021, 07:52:33 AM »
I saw it in RPGs before Gamergate, but holy smokes how GG exposed how corrupt journalism had become. Not only games journalism mind you, as the mainstream media immediately threw themselves onto the same wagon. It was as if everyone was just parroting the same braindead “harassment campaign to drive out women” story.
I think it was Michael Crichton who coined the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. I'll just copy and paste the full quote for those who don't know it:

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“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton

GamerGate was when I became immune to Gell-Mann Amnesia. Honestly, it has served me well - especially over the past year and a half.
that’s an interesting quote. I have thought similar things but it’s well put.

 “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.” 😊

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2021, 08:07:04 AM »
I strongly recommend going back a little further and reading 'Bias' by Bernard Goldberg. That got written about 20 years ago and you can see how the cancer metastasized.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2021, 09:44:57 AM »
Obviously you can't read, as I stated I would only use Tucker's book to wipe my ass.
And there it is, the tried and true “no YOU can’t read”.

Happydaze, I’m not interested in hearing about you crapping, and even less interested in your threadcrapping.
I don't post for you, sweetums.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2021, 11:22:48 AM »
Obviously you can't read, as I stated I would only use Tucker's book to wipe my ass.
And there it is, the tried and true “no YOU can’t read”.

Happydaze, I’m not interested in hearing about you crapping, and even less interested in your threadcrapping.
I don't post for you, sweetums.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2021, 02:09:33 AM »
Tucker Carlson is generally an opportunist.
But books make for AWFUL toilet paper. Scratches your ass and rips super easily.

But yeah for me it was also Gamergate. I was a proto-SJW at the time, and I even remember doing some 'Why is she wearing so little clothes' whining when I was like 13.
But gamergate happened and the media that I expected to trivially make out these hucksters completly joined their side, and so many people that in theory where 'Critical and badass and all about being edgy!' suddenly all about telling you to shut up and how you shouldn't be allowed to talk.

Thats when I realized something was up.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2021, 06:16:57 AM »
Not a takeover, just a loud and obnoxious bunch. Luckily you can spot then from a mile away, easier to ignore. Stop supporting and acknowledging them, eventually they’ll go away.

You really are a special kind of dim, aren't you? That's exactly how the vocal SJWs were able to hijack the hobby, because morons like you thought if you just put your fingers in your ears and ignored them, they'd lose interest. Instead you surrendered the public sphere to them and gave them control without any resistance. Well done!
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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2021, 05:01:38 PM »
It was about a year before GenCon virtue signaled that they were going to move out of Indiana due to Pence's defense of marriage legislation. I remember such stupid things as that, Stacey Dellofano (SP?) starting off with a cool idea for a women's only con and ending with a maniacal tirade of Tumblr Feminism, the dumbass idea of running Tournament of Rapists in a public venue was cool (with Trechiron defending it), and Motorskills claiming that if you didn't play a gay character in your games that you were then homophobic.

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Re: When did you first start to notice the SJW takeover of the hobby?
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2021, 07:20:08 PM »
Not a takeover, just a loud and obnoxious bunch. Luckily you can spot then from a mile away, easier to ignore. Stop supporting and acknowledging them, eventually they’ll go away.

You really are a special kind of dim, aren't you? That's exactly how the vocal SJWs were able to hijack the hobby, because morons like you thought if you just put your fingers in your ears and ignored them, they'd lose interest. Instead you surrendered the public sphere to them and gave them control without any resistance. Well done!

Lol! Nah, it’s because you shouldn’t argue with a fool, because you don’t know who’s watching. They’re clearly very mentally ill. They’re self destructive, I feel great pity for them.
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