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Author Topic: What will divide us next?  (Read 4062 times)

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2021, 11:20:52 PM »
Pedophilia must be normalized. Maybe not today or next week, but it will.

Well simpler then that: Leftists believe any morality that can be flawed or have glitches is simply invalid morality or invalid principle.
Which is every moral or principle ever.

But fortunately enough (for as thin of a silver lining this is), they are also inconcistent in the application of their own rules of having no rules. I ultimatly believe that women will still be higher on the progressive totem pole then transgenders. Its gonna take some persnickering, but as long as the woman identifies as trans (and they will be made to be so to some degree) they will reclaim their natural spot.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 12:01:58 AM »
Pedophilia must be normalized. Maybe not today or next week, but it will.

Leftists have literally painted themselves into a corner. They cannot oppose it.

I bet you can find leftists on this very forum that will refuse to denounce pedophilia.
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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2021, 12:54:22 AM »
  I would also say, that very issue, allowing men into women's restrooms and locker rooms is the exact same issue that pulled me into voting for a republican for the first time in any election.  My concerns were that it would be cover for predators, and it is chilling that now, we are starting to see victims to these woke points people want to rack up.   I can tell you, this will not be something I tolerate where my kids go to school.  They are getting yanked and straight to private school should it happen, and I will do everything in my power to form a literal lynch mob for the local school board.   

    The fact that masks and CRT motivated these parents and NOT dudes in girls bathrooms honestly has me a little ticked off.   Maybe we need sabre tooth tigers running around again to help everyone make common sense decisions again.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2021, 08:04:56 AM »
   My more cynical side says we would have seen the push for pedophilia more already if it hadn't been for the scandals in the Catholic Church, which both showed the real harms it caused and provided a stick to beat the Church with.

   And it's been festering in areas adjacent to our hobby, at least, for years. Read Moira Greyland's The Last Closet if you have the stomach for it, and be aware that a lot of people in the early days in the hobby are also part of the old California sci-fi fandom and SCA crowd.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2021, 08:17:28 AM »
   My more cynical side says we would have seen the push for pedophilia more already if it hadn't been for the scandals in the Catholic Church, which both showed the real harms it caused and provided a stick to beat the Church with.

   And it's been festering in areas adjacent to our hobby, at least, for years. Read Moira Greyland's The Last Closet if you have the stomach for it, and be aware that a lot of people in the early days in the hobby are also part of the old California sci-fi fandom and SCA crowd.
Yup. It's the reason DragonCon rebranded, and became FAR less liberal as a result politically.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2021, 08:33:19 AM »

   And it's been festering in areas adjacent to our hobby, at least, for years. Read Moira Greyland's The Last Closet if you have the stomach for it, and be aware that a lot of people in the early days in the hobby are also part of the old California sci-fi fandom and SCA crowd.

And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2021, 08:37:52 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2021, 09:48:06 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

Can't confirm or deny direct links. "Same crowd" = "same breed" to a close enough approximation, especially considering the issues with Magic judges.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2021, 09:53:34 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

Can't confirm or deny direct links. "Same crowd" = "same breed" to a close enough approximation, especially considering the issues with Magic judges.

  Fair enough. I asked only because we do have direct links to those people for a lot of early gaming folks, although AFAIK, no one's been accusing of participating or abetting any of the misdeeds.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2021, 10:00:11 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

Can't confirm or deny direct links. "Same crowd" = "same breed" to a close enough approximation, especially considering the issues with Magic judges.

  Fair enough. I asked only because we do have direct links to those people for a lot of early gaming folks, although AFAIK, no one's been accusing of participating or abetting any of the misdeeds.

"What did they know and when did they know it?" is a largely unanswerable question by now, short of someone else in those early circles coming forward.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2021, 10:02:08 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

Can't confirm or deny direct links. "Same crowd" = "same breed" to a close enough approximation, especially considering the issues with Magic judges.

  Fair enough. I asked only because we do have direct links to those people for a lot of early gaming folks, although AFAIK, no one's been accusing of participating or abetting any of the misdeeds.

"What did they know and when did they know it?" is a largely unanswerable question by now, short of someone else in those early circles coming forward.
The closest thing we have of that was Moira Greyland's aforementioned writing. A lot of the worst offenders, I suspect, have died off.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2021, 10:20:32 AM »
And now realize that this same crowd still exists, and owns and controls the D&D property.

 They're definitely of the same breed, but are there any direct links between WotC and the older SF/SCA crowd?

Can't confirm or deny direct links. "Same crowd" = "same breed" to a close enough approximation, especially considering the issues with Magic judges.

  Fair enough. I asked only because we do have direct links to those people for a lot of early gaming folks, although AFAIK, no one's been accusing of participating or abetting any of the misdeeds.

"What did they know and when did they know it?" is a largely unanswerable question by now, short of someone else in those early circles coming forward.
The closest thing we have of that was Moira Greyland's aforementioned writing. A lot of the worst offenders, I suspect, have died off.

Exactly. Unless someone else comes forward, that's all we'll ever be able to confirm.

And that kind of behavior, once introduced into and not expelled by a community, tends to perpetuate past the original offenders. Without eyewitnesses, though, we each have to make our own judgment call as to what we believe to be true.

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2021, 10:41:34 AM »
Next? Have you not noticed what they're trying to use to divide us right now?

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2021, 10:44:01 AM »
Hey guys, remember back in 2016 when Shia Labeouf did his 'He Will Not Divide Us' performance art?

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Re: What will divide us next?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2021, 01:18:49 PM »
Pedophilia is a regular accusation that goes back and forth from both sides. Epstein was a hated figure from people of all politics, with ties to both party's elite. I don't think it's an actual dividing opinion among ordinary people of either side.

Thankfully, the trend in all states has been to *raise* the age of consent, which historically was much lower. All states now have at least 16 as the age of consent, and many states have raised their age of consent from 16 to 18. The next challenge is in outlawing child marriage, which still occurs even for age differences that would otherwise be statutory rape, and is still legal in 44 states. I'm a supporter of the push to outlaw this throughout the country.

https://www.unchainedatlast.org/united-states-child-marriage-problem-study-findings-april-2021/