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Author Topic: What's to be done about homelessness?  (Read 3771 times)

Shasarak

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2021, 06:35:27 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2021, 08:28:09 PM »
Point out any mistakes I made besides getting the total city budget confused with the budget for the homeless programs. I was asking honest questions, and you got butthurt and lashed out like a child. We already knew you were a troll and an asshole, no better than the people you complain about. This is just more evidence towards that.
I don't even care about your opinions anymore. I just like to watch you dig your hole deeper.

HappyDaze's first reply to you pointed out a lot of things that were included in that xB$ total that didn't belong, in another post specifically told you where to look for the real number, and then in a later post provided the actual numbers. HD does troll, but not in this case. It wasn't particularly polite, but neither is your post.

I agree with Pat here. The conversation here has devolved into trading insults rather than discussing the issues. Regarding the issue of cost of homeless... Currently in Seattle, the number I heard was,

$100M/11751 homeless persons = $8510/homeless person

I'm curious about how much that is compared to other programs. For example, in Houston, there was a $58 million program that aimed to end chronic homelessness - but Houston has a homeless population only one-third the size.

https://communityimpact.com/houston/cy-fair/government/2020/06/30/updated-harris-county-houston-commit-58-million-to-program-that-could-functionally-end-chronic-homelessness-in-the-county/

$58M / 3938 homeless persons = $14,728 per homeless person

Maybe the Houston program is much better -- but the cost is also greater per homeless person. Now, Houston has a lower homeless population per capita than Seattle. On the other hand, homeless population interacts with prison population. If a city effectively makes being homeless illegal, then there is a lower homeless population but a higher prison population.

Texas has nearly double the prison population per capita as Washington, and the cost of a prisoner averages $33,000 per capita in the U.S. So that's not a great tradeoff economically.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2021, 12:24:22 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2021, 02:18:53 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
Reply #90. The one where I suggested you look at the real budget and you instead insisted that you had found a solution with your bullshit numbers (hint: those were your alternative facts that you were clinging to).

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2021, 04:15:08 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
Reply #90. The one where I suggested you look at the real budget and you instead insisted that you had found a solution with your bullshit numbers (hint: those were your alternative facts that you were clinging to).

Reply #93. dkabq corrects me on the actual number. I aknowledge this in post #96.
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2021, 04:44:01 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
Reply #90. The one where I suggested you look at the real budget and you instead insisted that you had found a solution with your bullshit numbers (hint: those were your alternative facts that you were clinging to).

Reply #93. dkabq corrects me on the actual number. I aknowledge this in post #96.
You missed my more detailed links in Reply #91. You're really bad at this.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #126 on: February 28, 2021, 06:21:17 PM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
Reply #90. The one where I suggested you look at the real budget and you instead insisted that you had found a solution with your bullshit numbers (hint: those were your alternative facts that you were clinging to).

Reply #93. dkabq corrects me on the actual number. I aknowledge this in post #96.
You missed my more detailed links in Reply #91. You're really bad at this.

I didn't miss them. I didn't want to engage with a self-declared troll. I only seriously engaged when you started assigning thoughts to me that I didn't say. And this whole drawn out troll is evidence that I should have ignored you then.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 06:22:56 PM by Ratman_tf »
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #127 on: March 01, 2021, 02:37:32 AM »
What "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

And as for not giving "two shits about accuracy," I'm the one that pointed you toward the accurate information and then even went so far as to give you direct links to it since your ability to do even basic research seemed so limited.

So, again, what "shit" did I make up? Please, be specific.

You still obsessing over moi? I'd be flattered if you weren't a psycho.

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/what-s-to-be-done-about-homelessness/msg1163902/#msg1163902

I did not, "Stick with alternative facts", like you claimed. I do not tolerate having words put in my mouth, or ideas assigned to me that I do not hold.
Back at you. Find me one instance where I "Stuck with the alternative facts".
Reply #90. The one where I suggested you look at the real budget and you instead insisted that you had found a solution with your bullshit numbers (hint: those were your alternative facts that you were clinging to).

Reply #93. dkabq corrects me on the actual number. I aknowledge this in post #96.
You missed my more detailed links in Reply #91. You're really bad at this.

I didn't miss them. I didn't want to engage with a self-declared troll. I only seriously engaged when you started assigning thoughts to me that I didn't say. And this whole drawn out troll is evidence that I should have ignored you then.
OK, so you didn't miss the facts I presented, you just decided to ignore them and stick with your alternative facts. Now you've confirmed that the words I assigned to you then perfectly fit your behavior. You really should have quit when some people might have believed you didn't intentionally ignore fact for fiction.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #128 on: March 01, 2021, 07:34:41 AM »
Greetings!

Well, fuck the "studies". My lived experience dealing with many homeless people first hand has demonstrated to me that a distinct majority of homeless people are very much drug and alcohol addicts. Not all of them, certainly, but a majority. Mentally ill people make up a large component of the homeless population as well.

Capable, mature, functioning, and responsible people typically don't become homeless, and when they do, they don't remain homeless for long.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
As usual, SHARK is playing his role as a bombastic dumbass to the fullest.

If we want to go with lived experiences,  I can say that I've seen many homeless individuals spend time in mental health centers when the temperature drops. Yes, they are "crazy" enough to play the system for a warm, dry place to sleep and hot meals for a few days because the system holds them for 72h if they claim suicidal ideation.

  So you are saying a bunch of the ones claiming mental disorders are lying grifters who just do not want to work and know that society loves to take care of a victim?  That I can believe.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #129 on: March 01, 2021, 11:54:55 AM »


I think I've helped you troll the thread for long enough.
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #130 on: March 01, 2021, 03:05:48 PM »


I think I've helped you troll the thread for long enough.
I think everyone has seen how you flounder and thrash when you're called on for sticking with alternative facts (in this case, also known as bullshit numbers and nonsense), but it's hilarious to see you keep twisting on the hook. You really should have walked away after I pointed out you were wading in the shit of alternative facts, but you had to show us all that you could touch bottom in the deep end of it. All because you just can't let it go when the one that was right was me. For you, it's obviously personal.