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Author Topic: What's to be done about homelessness?  (Read 5162 times)

Pat

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #135 on: April 17, 2021, 04:46:27 PM »
That doesn't work. First of all, you don't have to stuff people in empty office buildings. There are more empty homes than homeless people. But more importantly, they've tried giving homeless people homes. It doesn't work. Most of the people who are homeless are homeless because they nonfunctional in one way or another. That's why most of the give the homeless a house programs focus on the newly homeless, because there's a narrow window in there where there's actually a chance of catching someone in a bad place and helping them recover. But the long term homeless require more intensive care. If you want to give them a place to live, it will have to be an institution of some kind.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2021, 04:29:37 PM »
The problem I see with institutions where people have a room and there's a cafeteria is that they create a slum and crime zone around them but I wonder if giving the people work where they can make a little money would mitigate that possibly even paying them to clean up litter and paint fences.  Not a full time job or anything with a schedule, just show up and here's a rake type stuff and not a lot of money because giving a lump sum is asking for problems.

I guess labor laws might work against getting people off the street by making it impossible to give them work at a level that they can manage.

Of course there's a range of functionality to consider but I think if you're giving people with addictions money you have to accept that they'll buy drugs with it.  The question becomes whether you prefer they break into your house and steal your TV or rake your yard and paint your fence to get their drug money.

It's probably been tried and failed somewhere and someone here can probably tell me where and why.  Not to worry it's constructive.  You have to examine the failures to find functional solutions.
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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2021, 11:01:20 PM »
David J,

In my idea if a homeless person had construction or repair skills - they would be paid for repair work on the building they lived in -OR- that would be applied to eventually owning the abandoned house or building.

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Re: What's to be done about homelessness?
« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2021, 11:27:17 PM »
Part of the problem is that those aren't skills kids grow up with anymore.  I've occasionally thought that a drop in school might work better than a drop in center.  It gives people a place to go but it also helps them to grow.
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