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Title: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 12, 2020, 04:04:37 AM
Greetings!

Here in this video, Vietnamese Americans hold a rally in support of President Trump and against Biden stealing the election.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Pat on November 12, 2020, 09:11:29 AM
Orange County is traditionally very red, even though it flipped for Hillary in 2016, and Biden in 2020, so a strong vein of Trump support in the middle of LA isn't that surprising. And even Vox admits that a lot of Vietnamese-Americans favor Trump:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/10/30/21540263/vietnamese-american-support-trump-2020

While California overall remains deep blue, this election was a strong repudiation of the progressives and unions. Three state-wide ballot measures went against them, including a measure that would have allowed racial discrimination in hiring and college admissions, another that would have removed a cap on how high property taxes can go, and a third that would have turned gig workers into employees and resulted in companies like Uber and Instacart leaving the state.

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: oggsmash on November 12, 2020, 09:13:08 AM
Orange County is traditionally very red, even though it flipped for Hillary in 2016, and Biden in 2020, so a strong vein of Trump support in the middle of LA isn't that surprising. And even Vox admits that a lot of Vietnamese-Americans favor Trump:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/10/30/21540263/vietnamese-american-support-trump-2020

While California overall remains deep blue, this election was a strong repudiation of the progressives and unions. Three state-wide ballot measures went against them, including a measure that would have allowed racial discrimination in hiring and college admissions, another that would have removed a cap on how high property taxes can go, and a third that would have turned gig workers into employees and resulted in companies like Uber and Instacart leaving the state.
  The strongest repudiation I think I have seen of California is what appears to be the rate of Uhauls leaving the state.   I wonder where their tax base will be in 10 years?
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Pat on November 12, 2020, 09:24:16 AM
  The strongest repudiation I think I have seen of California is what appears to be the rate of Uhauls leaving the state.   I wonder where their tax base will be in 10 years?
San Francisco might be worth keeping an eye on, they just approved a bunch of tax hikes, and were the only area in the state that favored increasing rent control. That'll drive even more people away, on top of those who already fled due to covid, or had become disenchanted by the masses of homeless, crime, and filth. Without some course corrections, I could easily see that turning into a fast decline.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: oggsmash on November 12, 2020, 09:32:54 AM
  The strongest repudiation I think I have seen of California is what appears to be the rate of Uhauls leaving the state.   I wonder where their tax base will be in 10 years?
San Francisco might be worth keeping an eye on, they just approved a bunch of tax hikes, and were the only area in the state that favored increasing rent control. That'll drive even more people away, on top of those who already fled due to covid, or had become disenchanted by the masses of homeless, crime, and filth. Without some course corrections, I could easily see that turning into a fast decline.
  It sure seems like a fast decline now, what we have seen the past 10 years.  It looks to me like it is headed towards turning the graph from exponential decline to a linear one, straight down.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Ghostmaker on November 12, 2020, 09:36:27 AM
Supposedly, a bill is being kicked around to continue taxing people even after they leave California, or to tax assets that are removed. Grain of salt, though.

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: oggsmash on November 12, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
 Which I guess freefall is still technically exponential, it will just look like a line straight down
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: oggsmash on November 12, 2020, 09:42:31 AM
Supposedly, a bill is being kicked around to continue taxing people even after they leave California, or to tax assets that are removed. Grain of salt, though.
   I wonder if they realize that even talking about stuff like that is going to make people on the fence go ahead and pull the trigger on leaving?
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 12, 2020, 01:15:46 PM
Greetings!

I watched this video, and several other videos I have of Vietnamese Americans celebrating President Trump. I think their patriotism, loyalty, and commitment is awesome!

It makes me smile when they sometimes speak and butcher their English. I love it. The crazy accent, the mixing the English speech with the crazy sounding Vietnamese. So awesome. I wish I could understand Vietnamese. I have some friends that are Vietnamese Americans. One of my girls I used to visit for work every week, she was such a sweetheart. Beautiful Vietnamese girl. She would make me lunch when I came by. She had the crazy accent too. Such a smiling, happy, positive and wonderful person. I also remember even then, many Vietnamese Americans I talked to and associated with were very strong supporters of President Trump. They hate the Liberals, the fucking Socialists and Communists.

I find it so ironic that all of these Vietnamese Americans, either immigrants from Vietnam or children of immigrants from Vietnam--a Communist country--so few of them support anything "Socialist". I've seen them get damn near violent with members of their own neighborhood--some business owner planted a Communist North Vietnamese flag out in front of his business. He was protested against, riots, and his business was shut down within a week. He was lucky the Vietnamese Americans didn't string him up and hang him. Nonetheless, all the stupid white Liberals love Socialism, and Communism, and think it's all just sweetness and light. But people that have actually directly experienced it or have direct contact with such systems through their family--they don't want anything remotely to do with Socialism. Imagine that? But the smug fucking Liberals somehow know better.

Looking at the Vietnamese Americans exuberant support for President Trump, I see so very many women. I thought President Trump is a misogynist?

As mentioned earlier, all of these Vietnamese Americans are immigrants or the children of immigrants. I thought--according to the Democrats--that President Trump is a horrible Xenophobe that hates immigrants? Somehow, if Trump hated immigrants, doesn't it seem strange that so many Vietnamese Americans support him?

The Democrats have told me non-stop that President Trump is a white supremacist, and a racist! REEEEEE!!!--seeing this video though, with all of these laughing, passionate Vietnamese Americans celebrating President Trump--Vietnamese people are not white. They are Asian. And often darker skinned Asians at that. Not like some super-pale skinned Japanese or northern Chinese. *laughing* Didn't the Vietnamese Americans get the memo that Trump is a terrible, evil racist that hates non-whites?

I also know a Vietnamese American girl for several years that works in a donut shop. She used to hook me up with a ham and cheese croissant and a couple of donuts and a cappuccino on many mornings, every week when I lived in Southern California. She hated Communists, Socialists, Liberals, Democrats. She is a staunch supporter of President Trump, and also a strong Conservative. Fucking awesome people. I love the Vietnamese Americans. They are so often very patriotic, very conservative, and even their teenagers see the Liberal Democrats as being fucking idiots. Amazing. *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Mercurius on November 12, 2020, 02:01:41 PM
Takeaway: Vietnamese Americans can be dumbasses, too, just like any other ethnic group. Big revelation.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: jhkim on November 12, 2020, 02:04:15 PM
I find it so ironic that all of these Vietnamese Americans, either immigrants from Vietnam or children of immigrants from Vietnam--a Communist country--so few of them support anything "Socialist". I've seen them get damn near violent with members of their own neighborhood--some business owner planted a Communist North Vietnamese flag out in front of his business. He was protested against, riots, and his business was shut down within a week.

The bulk of Vietnamese-Americans are those who fled their own country, so they include the tail end of those within Vietnam who are most anti-communist. So I don't find it surprising or ironic that they are very opposed to "socialist". On the other hand, South Koreans fought off communism successfully. Korean-Americans are essentially all from South Korea, where the government was largely right-wing through the 1990s, and Korean-Americans tend to be more liberal. According to one Asian-American survey, Trump support goes like:

Chinese-American:  20% Trump
Japanese-American:  24% Trump
Korean-American:  26% Trump
Indian-American:  28% Trump
Filipino-American:  34% Trump
Vietnamese-American:  48% Trump

Source: https://aapidata.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/aavs2020_crosstab_national.pdf

Make of it what you will.

Regarding California:

  The strongest repudiation I think I have seen of California is what appears to be the rate of Uhauls leaving the state.   I wonder where their tax base will be in 10 years?
San Francisco might be worth keeping an eye on, they just approved a bunch of tax hikes, and were the only area in the state that favored increasing rent control. That'll drive even more people away, on top of those who already fled due to covid, or had become disenchanted by the masses of homeless, crime, and filth. Without some course corrections, I could easily see that turning into a fast decline.

Overwhelmingly, what drives people away from the Bay Area is the enormous cost of housing. Too many people have moved here and they're willing to pay a huge amount for housing - and new housing hasn't been built enough to correct for that, hampered by restricted development. Regarding other reasons - San Francisco has a very low covid-19 rate currently, and they are below average in crime for a city their size - significantly less than Dallas or Houston, for example. So I don't think those are major factors.

There is a current exodus, and it seems to be driven by being allowed to work from home. Once workers can work from anywhere, many are moving out of the high-cost Bay Area housing to cheaper rates. The high housing costs are primarily a market result of California being considered highly desirable, though. If people move out, then prices will drop and the market will correct.


Orange County is traditionally very red, even though it flipped for Hillary in 2016, and Biden in 2020, so a strong vein of Trump support in the middle of LA isn't that surprising. And even Vox admits that a lot of Vietnamese-Americans favor Trump:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/10/30/21540263/vietnamese-american-support-trump-2020

While California overall remains deep blue, this election was a strong repudiation of the progressives and unions. Three state-wide ballot measures went against them, including a measure that would have allowed racial discrimination in hiring and college admissions, another that would have removed a cap on how high property taxes can go, and a third that would have turned gig workers into employees and resulted in companies like Uber and Instacart leaving the state.

I think people might be reading too much into the propositions here. For example, I voted against the affirmative action prop 16, which I don't consider an anti-progressive vote, but just because it's a bad idea. I know of a number of other people who consider themselves progressive who voted similarly. I'd say California remains strongly Democrat, and in the progressive camp for LGBT issues and environmental issues, but less so for a number of economic issues. I'll buy that Prop 22's defeat is anti-union, for example.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Mercurius on November 12, 2020, 02:09:19 PM
I love the equation of "patriotism" and election denial. Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic. Rather, I think patriotism ("Merica!") is a better stand-in for dumbassery and bias. Such self-proclaimed patriots eschew all reason and adherence to the democratic process in favor of declaring themselves crusaders for truth and liberty. It is quite sad, really.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Mercurius on November 12, 2020, 02:10:35 PM
One other. I find it amusing and rather pathetic how Republicans virtue signal every time a non-white person votes GOP. "Look, we have black friends too!"
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 12, 2020, 02:30:17 PM
Greetings!

I think it is great when non-white minorities break away from the cock-sucking Democratic plantation and vote CONSERVATIVE. The whiny bitch Liberals cry so many tears when minorities refuse to swallow their fucking socialist jello.

That is something that should always be celebrated. Democrats and Liberalism in general are full of pathetic children that have been brainwashed by Marxism.

In this election, something like 20% of black Americans voted for Trump, and 35% of Latinos voted for Trump, and in general, more minorities voted for Trump than have ever voted for a Republican candidate in history.

The Democrat stranglehold on minority voters is steadily and quickly eroding. Such a beautiful thing to see!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Pat on November 12, 2020, 02:37:53 PM
Overwhelmingly, what drives people away from the Bay Area is the enormous cost of housing. Too many people have moved here and they're willing to pay a huge amount for housing - and new housing hasn't been built enough to correct for that, hampered by restricted development. Regarding other reasons - San Francisco has a very low covid-19 rate currently, and they are below average in crime for a city their size - significantly less than Dallas or Houston, for example. So I don't think those are major factors.

There is a current exodus, and it seems to be driven by being allowed to work from home. Once workers can work from anywhere, many are moving out of the high-cost Bay Area housing to cheaper rates. The high housing costs are primarily a market result of California being considered highly desirable, though. If people move out, then prices will drop and the market will correct.
It's true that the Bay Area is highly desirable. High paying tech jobs, and a culture that attracts a lot of people -- and I'm using culture to refer to both the arts and to the politics; people go there for things to do and to be around people like them.

But it's not true that the housing costs are high just because it's a desirable area. San Francisco's market has been well studied by economists, and the housing costs are completely out of line with other comparable areas, even when controlled for wages, population density, and other factors. The reasons are regulatory, including open space laws, height restrictions, and NIMBY zoning that reduces the number of places where cheap housing units can be built, and price controls along with many other regulatory burdens that disproportionately affect builders and landlords of affordable housing. They combine to make low cost housing an extremely risky venture, driving potential builders and landlords out of the market.

The 59.7% to 40.3% rejection of allowing additional rent control by local governments is a positive sign, but it's just avoiding additional damage, rather than trying to heal the self-inflicted wound.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Hawkwing7423 on November 12, 2020, 03:41:27 PM
Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic.

This word, coup, I don't think it means what you think it means. Or did Bush also do a seditious coup in 2000? He was literally Hitler too, back in his day.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 12, 2020, 04:07:42 PM
Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic.

This word, coup, I don't think it means what you think it means. Or did Bush also do a seditious coup in 2000? He was literally Hitler too, back in his day.

Greetings!

Yes, of course, Hawkwing. Anyone that doesn't suck down the Communist jello is a NAZI! REEEE!

Now, AOC, Jake Tapper, and many other fine Democrats want to compile lists of Conservatives that have supported President Trump, so that they can be punished for wrongthink.

Fucking tyrants and traitors. Such good, nice Democrats.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Mercurius on November 12, 2020, 04:18:09 PM
Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic.

This word, coup, I don't think it means what you think it means. Or did Bush also do a seditious coup in 2000? He was literally Hitler too, back in his day.

Greetings!

Yes, of course, Hawkwing. Anyone that doesn't suck down the Communist jello is a NAZI! REEEE!

Now, AOC, Jake Tapper, and many other fine Democrats want to compile lists of Conservatives that have supported President Trump, so that they can be punished for wrongthink.

Fucking tyrants and traitors. Such good, nice Democrats.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm thinking you don't really understand what a Communist actually is. I can tell you that it isn't "anyone who isn't a Conservative." It also isn't "anyone on the left."

Quit with the hyperbole.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: oggsmash on November 12, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic.

This word, coup, I don't think it means what you think it means. Or did Bush also do a seditious coup in 2000? He was literally Hitler too, back in his day.

Greetings!

Yes, of course, Hawkwing. Anyone that doesn't suck down the Communist jello is a NAZI! REEEE!

Now, AOC, Jake Tapper, and many other fine Democrats want to compile lists of Conservatives that have supported President Trump, so that they can be punished for wrongthink.

Fucking tyrants and traitors. Such good, nice Democrats.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm thinking you don't really understand what a Communist actually is. I can tell you that it isn't "anyone who isn't a Conservative." It also isn't "anyone on the left."

Quit with the hyperbole.
  Odd advice for a fellow talking about a coup. 
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Spinachcat on November 12, 2020, 07:36:54 PM
My buddy dated a Vietnamese girl in college (and the idiot should've married her).

She had a very thick accent....from Mississippi.

Her parents had assisted in the US war effort and were part of the refugees who fled post-war to the USA and somehow, wound up in the deep south. Of course, her family opened up a "Chinese restaurant" that was a big hit and her family's raging patriotism made them well loved.

But since everyone she knew (friends, teachers, neighbors) all spoke English with a thick Southern accent, that's exactly how she learned to speak English.

As for the Vietnamese vote, it's like the Slav vote, just like the Cuban and Venezuelan vote. And its no surprise anti-Communist immigrants are so pro-2A.  Those of us from immigrant families who know how much psychotic harm was done to our own extended families by communism and thus, we can smell the reek off Biden's handlers.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Shasarak on November 12, 2020, 11:39:56 PM
Quit with the hyperbole.
  Odd advice for a fellow talking about a coup.

Its not hyperbole when you are talking about literal Hitler.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Ratman_tf on November 13, 2020, 01:52:48 AM
One other. I find it amusing and rather pathetic how Republicans virtue signal every time a non-white person votes GOP. "Look, we have black friends too!"

I'm amused that the Democrats can't seem to figure out why they're driving all the minority voters away.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 13, 2020, 07:05:31 AM
One other. I find it amusing and rather pathetic how Republicans virtue signal every time a non-white person votes GOP. "Look, we have black friends too!"

I'm amused that the Democrats can't seem to figure out why they're driving all the minority voters away.

Greetings!

*Laughing* That's right, Ratman!

Mercurious is merely clinging to Democrat propaganda. The fact that in the past so many minorities voted Democrat was mostly due to propaganda, and remains so to this day. Propaganda and brainwashing. The whole "well, I have black friends, too!" What? So why the fuck do Liberal Democrats always attempt to virtue signal about how fucking diverse they are? *laughing*

It's awesome to see so many different people embrace Conservatism--and it's especially enjoyable, not as some kind of virtue signal, as Mercurious suggests--but because the reality is so different from the jello propaganda that the Democrats like to brainwash everyone with. Yeah, it is pure joy to see people become educated, truly empowered, and embrace freedom--and refuse to swallow Democrat propaganda and Socialist fucking jello.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: jeff37923 on November 13, 2020, 09:03:34 AM
Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic.

This word, coup, I don't think it means what you think it means. Or did Bush also do a seditious coup in 2000? He was literally Hitler too, back in his day.

Greetings!

Yes, of course, Hawkwing. Anyone that doesn't suck down the Communist jello is a NAZI! REEEE!

Now, AOC, Jake Tapper, and many other fine Democrats want to compile lists of Conservatives that have supported President Trump, so that they can be punished for wrongthink.

Fucking tyrants and traitors. Such good, nice Democrats.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm thinking you don't really understand what a Communist actually is. I can tell you that it isn't "anyone who isn't a Conservative." It also isn't "anyone on the left."

Quit with the hyperbole.

You are one gaslighting fuck, aren't you?
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Trinculoisdead on November 13, 2020, 10:05:28 AM
My girlfriend's parents are Vietnamese. They fled Vietnam on a little boat and waited out in the ocean until a larger vessel picked them up. They support Trump and in general are pretty traditional Catholics.

My girlfriend though is the opposite: raised in the Bay Area, a graduate from UC Santa Cruz, disinterested in religion, strongly progressive with leanings towards socialist principles, a supporter of BLM (we got into a fight over it way back when the protests first started. She was upset about it being "open season on black men" and I was looking up the actual number of shootings. That didn't go over well lol).

Anyway, point is, if you're conservative and want your kids to hold the same values as you, don't send them to a UC in California.

Edit: But she's also sweet and caring and seems to accept my stubbornly traditional ideas in general, so I guess her parents did something right. :P
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: jhkim on November 13, 2020, 11:15:45 AM
Overwhelmingly, what drives people away from the Bay Area is the enormous cost of housing. Too many people have moved here and they're willing to pay a huge amount for housing - and new housing hasn't been built enough to correct for that, hampered by restricted development. Regarding other reasons - San Francisco has a very low covid-19 rate currently, and they are below average in crime for a city their size - significantly less than Dallas or Houston, for example. So I don't think those are major factors.

There is a current exodus, and it seems to be driven by being allowed to work from home. Once workers can work from anywhere, many are moving out of the high-cost Bay Area housing to cheaper rates. The high housing costs are primarily a market result of California being considered highly desirable, though. If people move out, then prices will drop and the market will correct.
It's true that the Bay Area is highly desirable. High paying tech jobs, and a culture that attracts a lot of people -- and I'm using culture to refer to both the arts and to the politics; people go there for things to do and to be around people like them.

But it's not true that the housing costs are high just because it's a desirable area. San Francisco's market has been well studied by economists, and the housing costs are completely out of line with other comparable areas, even when controlled for wages, population density, and other factors. The reasons are regulatory, including open space laws, height restrictions, and NIMBY zoning that reduces the number of places where cheap housing units can be built, and price controls along with many other regulatory burdens that disproportionately affect builders and landlords of affordable housing. They combine to make low cost housing an extremely risky venture, driving potential builders and landlords out of the market.

The 59.7% to 40.3% rejection of allowing additional rent control by local governments is a positive sign, but it's just avoiding additional damage, rather than trying to heal the self-inflicted wound.

Just to briefly follow up -- I agree about this. Zoning restrictions and similar are important part of restricting development that has a pronounced effect on housing prices. (I did say "primarily" market rather than "solely" market.) Also, I agree that the rejection of local rent control was good. But that's still very different than the narrative of residents fleeing because things are too liberal or because of crime.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Pat on November 13, 2020, 12:14:06 PM
But that's still very different than the narrative of residents fleeing because things are too liberal or because of crime.
I didn't say that, so it's not relevant. What I said is that the results of the ballot initiatives can be construed as a rejection of progressivism (and unions), without any mention of departure. And separately listed crime as one of the things that have been making people disenchanted. I didn't say it was a primary reason why people are leaving, much less fleeing.

I'm tired of this whole "narrative" tactic. Many people don't seem to reply to what other people say, anymore. Instead, they have this pre-existing narrative in their head, and address that using other posters as proxies. It's a step beyond simple strawmanning, because it doesn't seem to be used simply as a method to avoid an issue. Instead, it appears that people are so fixated on the culture war that literally anything anyone else says has to be warped to fit into some grand Hero Quest that's overlaid on the real world.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Jaeger on November 13, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
Quit with the hyperbole.

No.

If you can't take the heat get the fuck out of the Kitchen.

After how many years of Trump supporters = Nazi, from the left and we are supposed to just lay down and take it?

The hell with that shit.

This is a knife fight in the gutter, and the dialectical "high ground" can go fuck itself along with its precious bowtie-conservative "principles".

Nobody cares anymore about some liberal commie pinko-snowflake diaper-babies feelings about our rhetoric.

Fuck your feelings.

The DNC socialists stole the election from God-Emperor Trump on live tv for the world to see.

And the continual Gaslighting lies and denials by the lefts media shills will not make us agree that there are five lights.

The Election fraud was massive. And more evidence of this treason comes to light every day.

My advice to you is to stock up on soy milk, grab you favorite teddy bear, stay close to your safe space, and prepare yourself:

(https://social.infogalactic.com/images/posts/fcdb6ef1-7519-4f54-b2a0-6dd633727e04/original-6e0bb140da774420b81fd64336e85a57.jpg?v=63771972759)

Epstein didn't kill himself.

Biden didn't win.


Ps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: The Spaniard on November 14, 2020, 09:43:56 AM
One other. I find it amusing and rather pathetic how Republicans virtue signal every time a non-white person votes GOP. "Look, we have black friends too!"
To the contrary, in my experience it's the progressives that constantly have to remind everyone that they have minority "friends".  The rest of us just have friends and don't need to tell the world because we don't give a shit about what others think. 
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: shuddemell on November 14, 2020, 02:47:54 PM
I love the equation of "patriotism" and election denial. Our sitting President is seemingly attempting a coup and sedition, and that is somehow patriotic. Rather, I think patriotism ("Merica!") is a better stand-in for dumbassery and bias. Such self-proclaimed patriots eschew all reason and adherence to the democratic process in favor of declaring themselves crusaders for truth and liberty. It is quite sad, really.

Seriously, a coup? This is the most boneheaded, dishonest, contrarian take on someone exercising their legal rights I may have ever read. There is ample reason to question the results, and the real denial is you suggesting that there isn't. I wouldn't necessarily call it patriotic (patriotism has little to do with addressing your grievances in court.), but it certainly isn't sedition or a coup. You, too, should quit the histrionic hyperbole.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Spinachcat on November 14, 2020, 07:25:09 PM
This is a knife fight in the gutter, and the dialectical "high ground" can go fuck itself along with its precious bowtie-conservative "principles".

Agreed, and not just for the election nonsense.

That's the future of the culture war.  The roar on Parler, Gab and Bitchute is just the beginning. Without Silicon Valley censorship, the red pills are being popped like Pez and people are finding allies in numbers they didn't imagine previously.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 15, 2020, 06:02:44 PM
This is a knife fight in the gutter, and the dialectical "high ground" can go fuck itself along with its precious bowtie-conservative "principles".

Agreed, and not just for the election nonsense.

That's the future of the culture war.  The roar on Parler, Gab and Bitchute is just the beginning. Without Silicon Valley censorship, the red pills are being popped like Pez and people are finding allies in numbers they didn't imagine previously.

Greetings!

More and more people being *Redpilled* for certain. While some Conservatives have become discouraged, I keep hearing about how more and more Conservatives are really angry at the election being stolen by fraud and corruption.

We never heard any of this kind of groundswell of anger and skepticism when Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012.

The Resistance is growing!

It also occurs to me that the fucking Liberals just still do not seem to quite get it--millions of Americans hate them. Millions of Americans hate their ideology, their atheism, their hatred towards America, and their love of Marxism. Millions of Americans don't want to "tolerate" Liberals. They don't want them living in our communities, or being anywhere near them. Nowhere near their children, not in their communities, and not in their government. There is nothing to discuss, nothing to compromise on, and nothing to negotiate. The cultural divide is not merely *different*--that train left the station long ago, as the Democrat Party began swallowing more and more Socialism and Marxism, and then being overtaken by Marxists and Globalists. The cultural divide now is entirely oppositional and incompatible.

The Liberals keep pushing making up lists of Trump supporters, jailing people defending themselves, embracing more Marxism and Globalism, and establishing more state and Marxist censorship and tyranny over our country, and taking guns away from the people, then there definitely will be a savage reckoning.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 15, 2020, 06:46:55 PM
This is a knife fight in the gutter, and the dialectical "high ground" can go fuck itself along with its precious bowtie-conservative "principles".

Agreed, and not just for the election nonsense.

That's the future of the culture war.  The roar on Parler, Gab and Bitchute is just the beginning. Without Silicon Valley censorship, the red pills are being popped like Pez and people are finding allies in numbers they didn't imagine previously.

Greetings!

More and more people being *Redpilled* for certain. While some Conservatives have become discouraged, I keep hearing about how more and more Conservatives are really angry at the election being stolen by fraud and corruption.

We never heard any of this kind of groundswell of anger and skepticism when Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012.

The Resistance is growing!

It also occurs to me that the fucking Liberals just still do not seem to quite get it--millions of Americans hate them. Millions of Americans hate their ideology, their atheism, their hatred towards America, and their love of Marxism. Millions of Americans don't want to "tolerate" Liberals. They don't want them living in our communities, or being anywhere near them. Nowhere near their children, not in their communities, and not in their government. There is nothing to discuss, nothing to compromise on, and nothing to negotiate. The cultural divide is not merely *different*--that train left the station long ago, as the Democrat Party began swallowing more and more Socialism and Marxism, and then being overtaken by Marxists and Globalists. The cultural divide now is entirely oppositional and incompatible.

The Liberals keep pushing making up lists of Trump supporters, jailing people defending themselves, embracing more Marxism and Globalism, and establishing more state and Marxist censorship and tyranny over our country, and taking guns away from the people, then there definitely will be a savage reckoning.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Oh good, I was hoping there would be another Asylum film with the raging SHARKtopussy singing the battle cry of violent idiots everywhere. Oddly, his lyrics sound a lot like REEEEEEEE! to me...
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 15, 2020, 09:39:50 PM
Greetings!

A huge Stop the Steal Rally held in downtown San Diego, sponsored by patriotic Vietnamese Americans!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 22, 2020, 12:10:49 PM
Greetings!

Jeff, of Paint the Trump program, is in Orlando, Florida with a large Trump rally sponsored by Vietnamese Americans in Florida.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 22, 2020, 12:47:01 PM
Greetings!

Jeff, of Paint the Trump program, is in Orlando, Florida with a large Trump rally sponsored by Vietnamese Americans in Florida.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


So now people shouting about their feelz is somehow meaningful? What are the words you tend to use for that? Oh, yes... REEEE!
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Spinachcat on November 22, 2020, 05:58:48 PM
No surprise they would stand and fight. Their parents fled communism to freedom, but unlike their parents, they have nowhere to run. America is our last stand. 

We've got Americans of Vietnamese descent on theDonald.win and recently there was an interesting discussion of how the banning and censoring of "conservative" (aka, non-SJW) voices is turning into a nightmare for those seeking our destruction.

Why?

TheDonald.win exists because they were thrown off Reddit and Parler exists because they were silenced on Twitter, but now with their own platforms the amount of cross communication has lead to massive coordination. TheDonald.win + the Chans have been the driving force behind the election fraud math including fundraising many tens of thousands to buy voting data to study and find anomalies. On Parler, without the shadowing, pro-Trump speakers are being heard by more people in a smaller platform and many have reported their engagement is DOUBLE compared to Twatter.

As we learned in Jurassic Park..."life finds a way"
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Spinachcat on November 22, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
So now people shouting about their feelz is somehow meaningful?

They are getting off their ass to protect the future of YOUR vote.

Allegedly the Dominion system was active in the 2016 and 2020 primaries and used against Bernie Sanders TWICE. So the election fraud is NOT just about Orange Man Bad, its about ANY future candidate in ANY future election being nuked by fraud.

I thought even you could figure that out. It's getting harder to lose even more respect for you, but I will put in the required effort!!
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 22, 2020, 06:11:39 PM
So now people shouting about their feelz is somehow meaningful?

They are getting off their ass to protect the future of YOUR vote.

Allegedly the Dominion system was active in the 2016 and 2020 primaries and used against Bernie Sanders TWICE. So the election fraud is NOT just about Orange Man Bad, its about ANY future candidate in ANY future election being nuked by fraud.

I thought even you could figure that out. It's getting harder to lose even more respect for you, but I will put in the required effort!!
I keep the focus on the "allegedly" part. When the evidence is presented and we get some proof that this has any substance, I'll be more than happy to give it more consideration. Until then, there's nothing really there.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Snowman0147 on November 22, 2020, 07:36:47 PM
So now people shouting about their feelz is somehow meaningful?

They are getting off their ass to protect the future of YOUR vote.

Allegedly the Dominion system was active in the 2016 and 2020 primaries and used against Bernie Sanders TWICE. So the election fraud is NOT just about Orange Man Bad, its about ANY future candidate in ANY future election being nuked by fraud.

I thought even you could figure that out. It's getting harder to lose even more respect for you, but I will put in the required effort!!

What do you expect?  He is a bought and paid for sellout that would sell you out to the Romans for silver coins.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: consolcwby on November 23, 2020, 01:06:10 AM
This is a knife fight in the gutter, and the dialectical "high ground" can go fuck itself along with its precious bowtie-conservative "principles".

Agreed, and not just for the election nonsense.

That's the future of the culture war.  The roar on Parler, Gab and Bitchute is just the beginning. Without Silicon Valley censorship, the red pills are being popped like Pez and people are finding allies in numbers they didn't imagine previously.

Greetings!

More and more people being *Redpilled* for certain. While some Conservatives have become discouraged, I keep hearing about how more and more Conservatives are really angry at the election being stolen by fraud and corruption.

We never heard any of this kind of groundswell of anger and skepticism when Obama was elected in 2008 and 2012.

The Resistance is growing!

It also occurs to me that the fucking Liberals just still do not seem to quite get it--millions of Americans hate them. Millions of Americans hate their ideology, their atheism, their hatred towards America, and their love of Marxism. Millions of Americans don't want to "tolerate" Liberals. They don't want them living in our communities, or being anywhere near them. Nowhere near their children, not in their communities, and not in their government. There is nothing to discuss, nothing to compromise on, and nothing to negotiate. The cultural divide is not merely *different*--that train left the station long ago, as the Democrat Party began swallowing more and more Socialism and Marxism, and then being overtaken by Marxists and Globalists. The cultural divide now is entirely oppositional and incompatible.

The Liberals keep pushing making up lists of Trump supporters, jailing people defending themselves, embracing more Marxism and Globalism, and establishing more state and Marxist censorship and tyranny over our country, and taking guns away from the people, then there definitely will be a savage reckoning.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
It kinda goes like this: In the beginning, the left called for peace, love, understanding, brotherhood, and charity for those who are unfortunate. They believed they could overtake and overturn centuries of perceived wrongs. But it didn't happen that way. Even in the 1920s, people in the United States rejected their 'Utopian Dreams', and went about their daily lives. A Great Depression wouldn't push people over that edge. So, the infiltration began. Over the decades, they sought to undermine and delegitimize all systems, institutions, and a way of life. They thought, because of the cultural 'Revolutions' starting in the 1960s, that they were winning. Satanism, witchcraft, the occult, conspiracy-sensationalism, astrology, decadence, hedonism, drugs, and passivism were pushed down the throats of people, until the lawlessness, a sign of demoralization and passivity, occurred. They believed they finally won. The problem is they thought they could restrict and impose their will upon a population which views virtue, honor, and truth with disdain. They forgot about one little thing: What they pushed on others, they absorbed the same thing - they ate hardily the bullshit they thought they were forcing down other's throats. Unfortunately for them, they came out from their hiding places - just as I predicted they would do when I was in college in 1989. Because they believe they are superior and justified in their 'fight', they felt safe. I told my professors back then, and I'll say it now: Christians are not loving, peaceful, forgiving people. They are traditionalists. Poke them enough, and there will be more blood in the streets than can possibly be imagined. They do not question a God who once called for all to be slain: the men, the old, the infirmed, the women, the children, the eunuchs. All that needs to be done for your own deaths are to truly 'upset' them, and there will be born the 'NEW TRADITIONALISTS', for whom morality and ethics are void - only their faulty knowlege of a tradition which anyone can exploit, until they are found guilty as well. That's the future. A Nation Of Hypocrites. But then again, what do I know?...

(Edit: Hypocrites to Hippocrates from my stupid stupid stupid Pi! Gotta start getting moar sleeeeeeep! :D Thanks for the catch, Pat!)
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Pat on November 23, 2020, 02:18:15 AM
That's the future. A Nation Of Hippocrates. But then again, what do I know?...
Nation, heal thyself!
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: jeff37923 on November 23, 2020, 03:59:30 AM
Greetings!

Jeff, of Paint the Trump program, is in Orlando, Florida with a large Trump rally sponsored by Vietnamese Americans in Florida.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK



Just for the record, no relation.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: SHARK on November 23, 2020, 05:01:49 AM
Greetings!

Here is another Trump rally on November 21, 2020, held in San Diego, California. Hosted by a large group of Vietnamese Americans.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: consolcwby on November 23, 2020, 10:09:58 PM
That's the future. A Nation Of Hippocrates. But then again, what do I know?...
Nation, heal thyself!
I HATE auto-correct.  ::)
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Jaeger on November 25, 2020, 05:23:54 PM

I keep the focus on the "allegedly" part. When the evidence is presented and we get some proof that this has any substance, I'll be more than happy to give it more consideration. Until then, there's nothing really there.

Evidence has been presented, and is readily available to all to be watched/read.

And it is damning.

If you do not know of any evidence of 2020 election fraud yet; you are either:

1 - Too lazy to look at anything not spoon fed you by your MSM propaganda outlet of choice.

2- Willfully ignorant, and too afraid to look at anything that might pop your delusion bubble of a Creepy Joe Biden "win".

3- You're lying. You know you're lying. And you'll keep lying well after Trumps inauguration on Jan 20th, crying out how he's "illegitimate" to the four winds, in spite of facts, reason, and Truth.

4 - You simply lack the mental capacity to understand what evidence is.

FYI:
Mathematically-based statistical evidence is court-admissible DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE.

Eyewitness testimony is court-admissible TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE.

And Trumps team has tons of both. With the accompanying signed affidavits putting their claims under penalty of perjury.

Evidence of election fraud will be proven in the United States Supreme Court.

The relentless demoralization campaign of lies and censorship will be for nothing.

Because everyone on the Left has a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation:

You not waiting for Trump's concession.

We are waiting for Biden's.


P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Ghostmaker on November 25, 2020, 05:45:48 PM
Someone elsewhere pointed this out:

The presence of any kind of software algorithm in a voting machine alone should be cause for a recount. That's like finding out your spreadsheet's been adding things wrong over the last two hours. You don't just shrug it off -- you have to go back, fix the spreadsheet, and recheck all your answers.

There has been so much damage done to the concept of elections, and the peaceful transfer of power, over the last twenty years (yeah, I said TWENTY -- some of us remember how the radleft treated Dubya) that I seriously question whether the nation as it is can hold together.

Way to fucking go.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 25, 2020, 05:55:24 PM

I keep the focus on the "allegedly" part. When the evidence is presented and we get some proof that this has any substance, I'll be more than happy to give it more consideration. Until then, there's nothing really there.

Evidence has been presented, and is readily available to all to be watched/read.

So how about a little more "show" and a little less "tell" then? Show us the evidence that has been presented. No, not some asshole's commentary on evidence that remains unseen, but the evidence itself.

Go ahead...
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: jhkim on November 25, 2020, 06:28:27 PM
FYI:
Mathematically-based statistical evidence is court-admissible DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE.

Eyewitness testimony is court-admissible TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE.

And Trumps team has tons of both. With the accompanying signed affidavits putting their claims under penalty of perjury.

Evidence of election fraud will be proven in the United States Supreme Court.

I agree that Trump should get his day in court - but I am doubtful that the courts will back this up. Also, I asked this in the other thread. Can you provide a link to a text article with sources and methodology for the statistical evidence you are talking about?


Someone elsewhere pointed this out:

The presence of any kind of software algorithm in a voting machine alone should be cause for a recount. That's like finding out your spreadsheet's been adding things wrong over the last two hours. You don't just shrug it off -- you have to go back, fix the spreadsheet, and recheck all your answers.

Well, we have had a full recount in Georgia and a partial recount in Wisconsin. There is also a recount in Michigan for Antrim county, which had the most prominent error - though that was attributed to human error from the clerk using the software, not a flaw in the software. If you enter some data in the wrong column in your spreadsheet, that's going to throw off the totals, as a parallel. Links on the Antrim County error and recount:

https://www.wxyz.com/news/antrim-county-in-michigan-to-manually-recount-ballots-after-election-software-error

https://www.woodtv.com/news/elections/antrim-co-vote-count-problem-was-ballot-change-not-software/

Generally speaking, I agree that election handling is sloppy and it could use more reform. The Antrim County error has been investigated, and clerks have alerted to check for whether they have done a similar error.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Jaeger on November 25, 2020, 06:32:17 PM
...
So how about a little more "show" and a little less "tell" then? Show us the evidence that has been presented. No, not some asshole's commentary on evidence that remains unseen, but the evidence itself.

Go ahead...

ROTFL !!

What part about: Evidence has been presented, and is readily available to all to be watched/read.

Do you not understand?

So far you seem to be hitting 2 out of 4:

1 - Too lazy to look at anything not spoon fed you by your MSM propaganda outlet of choice.

2- Willfully ignorant, and too afraid to look at anything that might pop your delusion bubble of a Creepy Joe Biden "win".

Wanna shoot for numbers 3 & 4 to do you?

I listed for all to see what you would be like, and you walked right into it.

Predictable leftist is predictable.

Get this through your head:

We are not your dancing monkeys.

You have been told.

You do not get to act surprised when Trump is sworn in on Jan 20th.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 25, 2020, 06:39:58 PM
...
So how about a little more "show" and a little less "tell" then? Show us the evidence that has been presented. No, not some asshole's commentary on evidence that remains unseen, but the evidence itself.

Go ahead...

ROTFL !!

What part about: Evidence has been presented, and is readily available to all to be watched/read.

Do you not understand?

So far you seem to be hitting 2 out of 4:

1 - Too lazy to look at anything not spoon fed you by your MSM propaganda outlet of choice.

2- Willfully ignorant, and too afraid to look at anything that might pop your delusion bubble of a Creepy Joe Biden "win".

Wanna shoot for numbers 3 & 4 to do you?

I listed for all to see what you would be like, and you walked right into it.

Predictable leftist is predictable.

Get this through your head:

We are not your dancing monkeys.

You have been told.

You do not get to act surprised when Trump is sworn in on Jan 20th.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
Gotcha,  you're a delusional idiot just doing your REEEE! into the wind. By all means, keep fighting the dumb fight for my amusement. You really are just a dancing monkey to me.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Snowman0147 on November 25, 2020, 07:12:58 PM
Add a fifth option to that.  HappyDaze is making money off of the Covid scam which Donald Trump would end.  I say give HappyDaze 1, 2, 3, and 5.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Jaeger on November 26, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
Behold, the three laws of SJW's in action:

1. SJW's always Lie:


I keep the focus on the "allegedly" part. When the evidence is presented and we get some proof that this has any substance, I'll be more than happy to give it more consideration. Until then, there's nothing really there.

2. SJW's always double down:

So how about a little more "show" and a little less "tell" then? Show us the evidence that has been presented. No, not some asshole's commentary on evidence that remains unseen, but the evidence itself.
...

3. SJW's always project:

Gotcha,  you're a delusional idiot just doing your REEEE! into the wind. By all means, keep fighting the dumb fight for my amusement. You really are just a dancing monkey to me.

Thank you HappyDaze for providing a textbook example.


P.S. This clip never gets old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT-udMDpCtU
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: HappyDaze on November 26, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Behold, the three laws of SJW's in action:

1. SJW's always Lie:


I keep the focus on the "allegedly" part. When the evidence is presented and we get some proof that this has any substance, I'll be more than happy to give it more consideration. Until then, there's nothing really there.

2. SJW's always double down:

So how about a little more "show" and a little less "tell" then? Show us the evidence that has been presented. No, not some asshole's commentary on evidence that remains unseen, but the evidence itself.
...

3. SJW's always project:

Gotcha,  you're a delusional idiot just doing your REEEE! into the wind. By all means, keep fighting the dumb fight for my amusement. You really are just a dancing monkey to me.

Thank you HappyDaze for providing a textbook example.


P.S. This clip never gets old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT-udMDpCtU
Jaeger, you're embarrassing yourself. Please keep it up.
Title: Re: Vietnamese Americans Rally For President Trump in California
Post by: Jaeger on November 26, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
Add a fifth option to that.  HappyDaze is making money off of the Covid scam which Donald Trump would end.  I say give HappyDaze 1, 2, 3, and 5.

No need to go into speculation. These types are predictable enough.

Over the next two months we'll see if he walks into number 3&4 as well.

There always is the outside chance he'll open his eyes. It happens.


Someone elsewhere pointed this out:

The presence of any kind of software algorithm in a voting machine alone should be cause for a recount. That's like finding out your spreadsheet's been adding things wrong over the last two hours. You don't just shrug it off -- you have to go back, fix the spreadsheet, and recheck all your answers.

When you mention the algorithm in the voting machines, and Spinichat mentions dominion, And other posts from guys like Shark and Snowman, I know exactly what you are all talking about.

We know these things because we have bypassed the MSM propaganda arm of the DNC and know where to go look and hear about all the evidence and facts that they refuse to report on, and outright lie about.

How do we do this? We are adults capable of independent critical thought.

And there are tens of millions of us. We are all capable of getting online, not drinking the MSM koolaid, and with a basic search we find the alternative news outlets, blogs, and twitter feeds that show the evidence of the 2020 election fraud that the DNC's mainstream media lapdogs try to hide.


... I seriously question whether the nation as it is can hold together.
...

We are not together as a nation. We are at least 3 different tribes all fighting for political power.

The left has made identity politics the future.


...
Jaeger, you're embarrassing yourself. Please keep it up.

The projection never ends... Quoted for revisitation come Jan 20th.