Democrats Planning To Launch A Colour Revolution If Trump Wins The Election!

[moonsweeper]

Oh, I know what I said. The problem here is that people love to lash out at groups for the actions of individuals. If an individual or even a specific group of people is violent, that doesn't mean that violence is justified against all people that share their beliefs. There are a lot of progressives and even leftists that don't engage in violence. Using violence against them just because some others with those beliefs go full retard just makes you an opportunistic monster that wants an excuse to attack the other.

This is true, but I think you are reading too much into our local 'misguided child'...he's a bit gung-ho because it goes with the territory and I imagine he is getting more upset because of the politicians who are supporting the violence.

[SHARK]

When your ideology revolves around violent revolution, identity politics, and the corrosion of day to day living?

Why yes, I do think people who push such ideas should fear for their lives, no less than a man who pushes heroin and crystal meth should fear for his life.

Greetings!

Oh, Reeee! It's so terrible that Antifa and BLM scum should be pissing themselves in fear!!! Oh, Noes!

That isn't very sweet and nice of you, Ghostmaker!

Yeah, waa for them!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[video=youtube;in8pgvJfM28]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8pgvJfM28[/youtube]

[SHARK]

This is true, but I think you are reading too much into our local 'misguided child'...he's a bit gung-ho because it goes with the territory and I imagine he is getting more upset because of the politicians who are supporting the violence.

Greetings!

That's right, my friend! The swarmy, traitorous politicians top the list. "To whom much is given--much is required". They have a scared duty to defend the Constitution, and to enforce law and order, and protect the people.

They have failed utterly. Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, Baltimore, and more. They have been weighed in the scales--and found wanting.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Marxism, SJWism, it is all an ideological disease. A soul-destroying mental disease which cripples the minds of people that embrace such hateful and corrosive ideology. Tim Pool discusses such in the video, with Lydia.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[video=youtube;68gwEND5SXc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68gwEND5SXc[/youtube]

[Ghostmaker]

Thoughts don't deserve violence, and people should be free to think what they want. If they take violent action, then the use of violence to stop them is justified. Otherwise, it is not. If you can't beat their ideology with your ideology, then escalating to violence just shows the flaws in your thinking (regardless of which side you are on). Those that move to violence first are the monsters that should be dealt with harshly.

Looking forward to the BLM/Antifa turkey shoots then.

[HappyDaze]

Looking forward to the BLM/Antifa turkey shoots then.

Hey, if you're selective and keep your sights on the ones using violence and use the minimum force necessary to stop their violence, I'm not going to say shit about it. I'm no fan of fuckers that use unnecessary violence against others (and my line for when it's necessary is a lot more defined than many here). However, when everyone that supports the movement, or even sympathizes with their goals is branded the other and identified for extermination, I'll call it for the fucked up bullshit that it is. That's the kind of rhetoric that makes things worse, not better, and worse can hurt people both directly and indirectly.

[blackstone]

Hey, if you're selective and keep your sights on the ones using violence and use the minimum force necessary to stop their violence, I'm not going to say shit about it. I'm no fan of fuckers that use unnecessary violence against others (and my line for when it's necessary is a lot more defined than many here). However, when everyone that supports the movement, or even sympathizes with their goals is branded the other and identified for extermination, I'll call it for the fucked up bullshit that it is. That's the kind of rhetoric that makes things worse, not better, and worse can hurt people both directly and indirectly.

Question: since both ANTIFA and BLM condone violence in the rhetoric the expound, and we have seen time and time again that they will resort to violence, where do you stand in regards to these organizations?

[jeff37923]

Question: since both ANTIFA and BLM condone violence in the rhetoric the expound, and we have seen time and time again that they will resort to violence, where do you stand in regards to these organizations?

Crush them both. Remove their funding and heavily fine anyone who dared to fund the movements (use the fines to pay for restitution to the damaged businesses of rioting, or in the case of BLM - send a sizeable portion to the NAACP and UNCF), incarcerate their members and let them serve hard labor, death sentences for those who injured others in the name of these organizations.

[Spinachcat]

Yes, Wall Street globalists are a huge part of the problem. But it's not all theater from BLM and Antifa either. You can see first hand the results in Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I fully agree globalists are the major issue plaguing America.

It's a major reason I support Trump. The globalists hate him viciously because it's not enough to be pro-corporation and pro-trade, to be a friend of globalists you must hate the American worker. Trump loves corporations, robust international trade and the American worker and even though he's too pro-megacorp for my taste, his defense of American workers, the middle class and small business is what earns my support.

The Harris/Biden ticket's globalist handlers are very happy to hand the USA over to leftists. They quite wrongly believe they can control their monsters in the street...or the backlash.

If an individual or even a specific group of people is violent, that doesn't mean that violence is justified against all people that share their beliefs.

And THIS nonsense is why the USA has lost every war since WW2.

Want to win a war? Destroy the enemy and all who support the enemy.

Want to lose a war? Play footsies with all who support the enemy.

There are a lot of progressives and even leftists that don't engage in violence.

They're just the happy supporters of the violence.

Many of them support the violence with hefty donations, or viciously browbeating companies into donating to the violence or face the wrath of their cancel culture.

Those who support BLM support BLM's objectives and BLM's actions. Those who support terrorism aren't innocent just because they're not (yet) pulling triggers.

Using violence against them just because some others with those beliefs go full retard just makes you an opportunistic monster that wants an excuse to attack the other.

If being an "opportunistic monster" is what's required to save America, that's absolutely fine.

History is written by the victors.

This is true, but I think you are reading too much into our local 'misguided child'...he's a bit gung-ho because it goes with the territory and I imagine he is getting more upset because of the politicians who are supporting the violence.

If the Harris/Biden handlers win, we better pray there's a million Sharks in America.

I met a Russian immigrant recently. She lived through the fall of the USSR and she teaches about the Russian Revolution. She's SCARED by what's happening to America. We talked about how the only people who seem to understand what's coming for us are those of us who had a taste of communism or those who studied the truth about what socialism/communism brings.

Today i was talking with a new prospective client who's a Vietnamese immigrant. She asked me if I knew socialism was bad. I quoted Lenin, "the goal of socialism is communism" and then she said her whole family is stocking up on guns for war.

Not for home defense. For war.

[HappyDaze]

If being an "opportunistic monster" is what's required to save America, that's absolutely fine.

History is written by the victors.

Let's watch the leafy feline push towards that full retard Idiocracy America. I'm sure it will be absolutely fine.

[Spinachcat]

Let's watch the leafy feline push towards that full retard Idiocracy America.

It's 2020. Full retard Idiocracy America is now called Tuesdays.

I'm sure it will be absolutely fine.

Actually, it won't be. You are one of the few people on this forum who has seen the effects of violence up close. I would LOVE to avoid mass violence, but not at the loss of America. That's why I started the thread on brainstorming PEACEFUL ways to balkanize America with the LEAST violent solutions.

[Pat]

That's why I started the thread on brainstorming PEACEFUL ways to balkanize America with the LEAST violent solutions.

We're already balkanized. Even in the long-ago days of 2004, this is what had already happened to the country:
http://www.thebigsort.com/maps.php

Even more so today, the country has divided itself into enclaves of like-minded people. This has happened voluntarily, as people move to places where everyone around them thinks like they do, and tolerance for those with divergent beliefs has plummeted. Because this is primarily happening at the community and neighborhood level, we can't split the country into nice big blocs, like the West and Midwest, or along state boundaries.

I see only four possible solutions. Option zero is rapprochement, some way of overcoming the social barriers and learning to live together again. The next is tyranny, where the majority or a large minority seizes the reins of power and imposes their will on all divergent groups. In the final two cases let all those separate polities or municipalities to set their own rules and live parallel lives, different from those the next community over. The less extreme version of this is radical decentralization, pushing most power down from the federal to the local level. The more extreme version is microstates, splitting the country into thousands of separate political entities.

[jhkim]

We're already balkanized. Even in the long-ago days of 2004, this is what had already happened to the country:
http://www.thebigsort.com/maps.php

Even more so today, the country has divided itself into enclaves of like-minded people. This has happened voluntarily, as people move to places where everyone around them thinks like they do, and tolerance for those with divergent beliefs has plummeted. Because this is primarily happening at the community and neighborhood level, we can't split the country into nice big blocs, like the West and Midwest, or along state boundaries.

While I agree that we have had a trend of increasing polarization -- I think the map is somewhat deceptive. First of all, any map by land area is going to strongly emphasize rural counties over urban. But moreover, in 1976, the Southeast was still a *Democratic* stronghold. The reason why 1976 was so split was because it was in the middle of the huge shift where Republicans took control of the Southeast and began to dominate rural areas more broadly. I would say that 1976 wasn't the norm in our history, it was close to a turning point.

In earlier periods of U.S. history, it was pretty normal for counties to be either Republican or Democratic strongholds.

I see only four possible solutions. Option zero is rapprochement, some way of overcoming the social barriers and learning to live together again. The next is tyranny, where the majority or a large minority seizes the reins of power and imposes their will on all divergent groups. In the final two cases let all those separate polities or municipalities to set their own rules and live parallel lives, different from those the next community over. The less extreme version of this is radical decentralization, pushing most power down from the federal to the local level. The more extreme version is microstates, splitting the country into thousands of separate political entities.

I think the actual policy and lifestyle differences between most mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans is relatively small, especially compared to countries that have gone through actual balkanization in the last century. In prior ages, we had far more serious divisions over policy and life -- like when there were violent clashes over unions, enforced segregation, and both more extreme wars and anti-war activism. Today, I can be introduced to a family and talk about stuff for a while, and not be able to know what side they are on. The more major problem is that we have had a rise of partisan media - especially social media.

If Republican and Democrat families were just sitting together and having normal daily interactions, there would be little difference. The real problem is when Democrats are watching MSNBC and Republicans are watching Fox News, and both are watching their Facebook feeds.

In short, I think living together is easily possible. From observing balkanization in other countries, it's not pretty - and when it is complete, it will result in *more* tyranny, not less tyranny. In the current U.S., there is roughly a 50/50 split. In divided microstates, there will be viewpoint minorities of 10 to 25% who will be forced to live under the rule of the supermajority.