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Author Topic: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.  (Read 100796 times)

Rob Necronomicon

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #255 on: March 04, 2022, 07:28:05 AM »
Putin is a cunt. I feel sorry for the average Russian civilian.

Unfortunately, Russia is untouchable because of its nuclear capability. Otherwise, I'd love if Nato went in smashed Putin's Warmachine back to the stone age (not that they ever would of course).

But it wouldn't be a war... More like a special operation. lol




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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #256 on: March 04, 2022, 09:34:49 AM »
Putin is a cunt. I feel sorry for the average Russian civilian.

Unfortunately, Russia is untouchable because of its nuclear capability. Otherwise, I'd love if Nato went in smashed Putin's Warmachine back to the stone age (not that they ever would of course).

But it wouldn't be a war... More like a special operation. lol

Russia has a million men under arms.  No mat how inept they are, a million bullets will find a few targets.   As long you volunteer to be the first across the border, then I'm fine with it.   But if you expect my kids to go without you, then I'm not so fine with your "plan"...

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #257 on: March 04, 2022, 09:39:38 AM »
But if you expect my kids to go without you, then I'm not so fine with your "plan"...

What plan...? My 'hypothetical' plan about intervening in Ukraine? If Putin didn't have nukes.. but he does. The Russians are untouchable. So your kids are safe. lol




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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #258 on: March 04, 2022, 10:07:42 AM »
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Why exactly are we buying oil from Russia again?

I mean, we just can't seem to figure out how to hit them in the pocketbook. All we have to do is actually -use what we have-.

So go ahead, motherfuckers. Talk about 'treason'. Explain to me why we're buying Russian oil.

It's a good point, and we shouldn't be. Just full stop this should have been the first thing we did. Yes we will all pay more for lots of things. So what. We can make that sacrifice. We shouldn't be buying their oil or gas. They should be cut off.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #259 on: March 04, 2022, 10:09:37 AM »
What's the general tenor people have been experiencing about this conflict? Are people falling for the propaganda to instigate WW3, or are people keeping their heads?

I don't know anyone who wants to militarily invade to oppose Russia if that's what you mean. I don't buy it's all propaganda either. That's as much bullshit spin as anything. 1000 events happen, you guys find three or four that are suspect, and spin the entire thing as if it's represented by those three or four. Meanwhile you tell us to not believe our lying eyes of constant video on the ground broadcast live from dozens of different and not related sources.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #260 on: March 04, 2022, 10:12:45 AM »
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They also can't understand that you can be sympathetic to the plight of Ukie civilians without wanting to get into another 20-year war. It doesn't help that Westerners don't understand the Slavic mindset - regardless of benign-ness of NATO membership, to Putin and Lukashenko, they see themselves surrounded by NATO.

This is big.

The situation sucks for the Ukrainian people.

But it's just not our business.

Oh here comes that old isolationism mantra. Just as unethical as it was in 1939.

It's our business. It's not our business enough to invade and start WW3, but it's our business. We live in a world larger than ourselves. There will always be an excuse to not care about what happens outside our border. That excuse is usually just bullshit.

And the easy was to demonstrate the lie? This thread. People are interested more than just making sure we don't start WW3. Everyone here knows on some level it's everyone's business when one of the world powers militarily invades another nation without provocation and expects to see no push back from the rest of the world for their actions.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #261 on: March 04, 2022, 10:29:12 AM »
Oh here comes that old isolationism mantra. Just as unethical as it was in 1939.

Well its a different set of ethics. No nation does anything for free or truly because of the goodness of their heart. Denying this I feel sets the path for larger abuse.
The USa has motives for getting involved in other nations, but its not because of ethics.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #262 on: March 04, 2022, 10:32:37 AM »

The USa has motives for getting involved in other nations, but its not because of ethics.

Indeed... It's always self-serving while using the umbrella of 'we are so good'. Every nation does it as it's not very easy to justify a war to its people if there is no 'just cause'.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #263 on: March 04, 2022, 11:14:05 AM »
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They also can't understand that you can be sympathetic to the plight of Ukie civilians without wanting to get into another 20-year war. It doesn't help that Westerners don't understand the Slavic mindset - regardless of benign-ness of NATO membership, to Putin and Lukashenko, they see themselves surrounded by NATO.

This is big.

The situation sucks for the Ukrainian people.

But it's just not our business.

Oh here comes that old isolationism mantra. Just as unethical as it was in 1939.

It's our business. It's not our business enough to invade and start WW3, but it's our business. We live in a world larger than ourselves. There will always be an excuse to not care about what happens outside our border. That excuse is usually just bullshit.

And the easy was to demonstrate the lie? This thread. People are interested more than just making sure we don't start WW3. Everyone here knows on some level it's everyone's business when one of the world powers militarily invades another nation without provocation and expects to see no push back from the rest of the world for their actions.

You won't find him arguing the same about the ONE superpower currently commiting genocide but hey, it's never about principles with him.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #264 on: March 04, 2022, 11:17:30 AM »
What's the general tenor people have been experiencing about this conflict? Are people falling for the propaganda to instigate WW3, or are people keeping their heads?

I don't know anyone who wants to militarily invade to oppose Russia if that's what you mean. I don't buy it's all propaganda either. That's as much bullshit spin as anything. 1000 events happen, you guys find three or four that are suspect, and spin the entire thing as if it's represented by those three or four. Meanwhile you tell us to not believe our lying eyes of constant video on the ground broadcast live from dozens of different and not related sources.

Because ALL the pundits/politicians and WEF operators disguissed as journalists clamoring for a no fly zone aren't clamoring for hot war with Russia...
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #265 on: March 04, 2022, 12:52:37 PM »
When was the last time our inept & evil rulers didn't go down the slippery slope? Lindsay Graham is openly advocating for murder of Putin. The entire Washington/EU political class are determined to turn a regional conflict (that they provoked) into a nuclear world war.

We desperately need to clean house.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #266 on: March 04, 2022, 01:48:41 PM »
Aparently a temporary cease fire has been negotiated between Ukraine and Russia. Lets hope they manage to cut a deal that allows Putin to save face in his country (because I don't think he would agree to anything else) and doesn't end with all of Ukraine under his boot. Praying for it.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #267 on: March 04, 2022, 02:03:50 PM »
When was the last time our inept & evil rulers didn't go down the slippery slope? Lindsay Graham is openly advocating for murder of Putin. The entire Washington/EU political class are determined to turn a regional conflict (that they provoked) into a nuclear world war.

We desperately need to clean house.

Won’t someone rid me of this troublesome Priest?

I am sure that a general call to assassinate politicians will go exactly as well as anyone with half a brain could predict.

Unfortunately half a brain is such a high bar.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #268 on: March 04, 2022, 02:34:34 PM »
Assassination is, of course, a political weapon. An extreme one, but it's always there.

However, Graham needs to shut the fuck up. You don't publicly pull that out and wave it around. It's as ill advised as pulling a concealed pistol and brandishing it for no reason.


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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #269 on: March 04, 2022, 03:59:16 PM »
Well demanding his assasination has killed any micro-chance of Putin stepping down. Thanks Lindsay.