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Author Topic: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.  (Read 100776 times)

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #105 on: February 27, 2022, 01:56:32 PM »
Take everything I say with a grain of salt, but the sanctions are really hurting the upper middle class. They don’t care about Ukraine, they wanted to go on vacation to italy.

And many tech sector businesses are panicking what to do. Even the KGB head had minor murmurs about them not being ready fir a steamroller war.

But this could be wishful thinking that I got through my dad.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #106 on: February 27, 2022, 01:58:08 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #107 on: February 27, 2022, 02:00:07 PM »
Yay, my moms out of the Ukraine and in Poland. She said a bunch of people from Africa decided to also rush the border at the same time so it took longer, but shes safe.

That just leaves everybody else I know in Ukraine.
However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.
Yup

That’s good news! Now fingers crossed for getting the rest of your family safe.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #108 on: February 27, 2022, 02:01:55 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

Quick someone hack more Russian websites!
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #109 on: February 27, 2022, 02:02:40 PM »
Canada and the EU have closed their airspace to ALL Russian aircraft. In a first, the EU is going to finance weapons and equipment delivery to Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #110 on: February 27, 2022, 02:07:59 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

Quick someone hack more Russian websites!

I'll go ya one better: a Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca attempted to sink his wealthy Russian boss' yacht. His boss is an executive at Rostec, a Russiam state-owned military equipment manufacturer.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2022, 02:35:33 PM by Tubesock Army »

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #111 on: February 27, 2022, 03:22:25 PM »
Zelensky's showing way more balls than I ever anticipated from an ex-comedian. People surprise you.

I understand Putin's desire to avoid Ukraine joining NATO. Lithuania and Estonia are in NATO and are on his border. Remember how we reacted with Soviet missiles in Cuba (after we put them in Turkey)?

Ukraine's government was famously corrupt and questionably democratic.

However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.
If Ukraine didn't want to be invaded, it shouldn't have exposed that sexy coastline.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2022, 03:44:03 PM »
Yay, my moms out of the Ukraine and in Poland. She said a bunch of people from Africa decided to also rush the border at the same time so it took longer, but shes safe.

That just leaves everybody else I know in Ukraine.
However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.
Yup

  Fantastic.  I am glad to hear this.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2022, 04:03:59 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

Quick someone hack more Russian websites!

I'll go ya one better: a Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca attempted to sink his wealthy Russian boss' yacht. His boss is an executive at Rostec, a Russiam state-owned military equipment manufacturer.

Thank goodness that brave Ukrainian sailor managed to attempt to sink a Russian yacht.

Surely Kiev is saved now!
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2022, 04:17:17 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

Quick someone hack more Russian websites!

I'll go ya one better: a Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca attempted to sink his wealthy Russian boss' yacht. His boss is an executive at Rostec, a Russiam state-owned military equipment manufacturer.

Thank goodness that brave Ukrainian sailor managed to attempt to sink a Russian yacht.

Surely Kiev is saved now!

Hahaha! and totally not misinformation or propaganda!

Truth is the first casualty of war.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2022, 04:29:26 PM »
Multiple credible reports that Kyiv is surrounded. Yikes.

Quick someone hack more Russian websites!

I'll go ya one better: a Ukrainian sailor in Mallorca attempted to sink his wealthy Russian boss' yacht. His boss is an executive at Rostec, a Russiam state-owned military equipment manufacturer.

Thank goodness that brave Ukrainian sailor managed to attempt to sink a Russian yacht.

Surely Kiev is saved now!

Hahaha! and totally not misinformation or propaganda!

Truth is the first casualty of war.

I am still gutted about the Snake Island story.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2022, 04:57:20 PM »
... And here you and Jaeger are, being convenient little fucking puppets of Putin dancing to his tune and looking for any excuse to push his propaganda.
...

You are very selective in your quotes. Typical behavior.

Push his propaganda? So calling Putin a Bad Dude is supporting his interests how?

Being a disingenuous Liar yet again.


Null 42 is correct:

However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.

But there are no white hats here.

Putin is a Bad Dude. But the West ain't lily white here either.

All those articles from liberal news outlets that I linked to casting American foreign policy in a bad light were all A-OK until Putin attacked.

And now, like magic, the internet is filled with: "All that shit that everyone reported on before - well um, uh, it's all Russian propaganda now!"

As if the West doesn't know how to do propaganda either?



Everyone is pushing their propaganda 24/7 right now. Everyone.

Were all those stories I linked to from Years ago really all Russian propaganda? Or was it just good reporting that is inconvenient reading now that the West left Ukraine holding the bag?

You should tell the BBC to make up its mind.

On the one hand they report on the US interfering in a sovereign nations internal affairs:

Victoria Nuland at the State Department in 2014: (Currently serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

And three years later they are highlighting how Russia pushes its narrative in the Ukraine:

Pro-Russia propaganda machine in Ukraine
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41915295

The BBC didn't seem to like either side...


The only real truth here is this:

The Ukrainian people have gotten screwed.

It's all a big mess.

And Nobody knows the full story because everyone involved in this shit since the fall of the USSR is shady as fuck.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2022, 05:02:19 PM by Jaeger »
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2022, 06:47:11 PM »
Zelensky's showing way more balls than I ever anticipated from an ex-comedian. People surprise you.

I understand Putin's desire to avoid Ukraine joining NATO. Lithuania and Estonia are in NATO and are on his border. Remember how we reacted with Soviet missiles in Cuba (after we put them in Turkey)?

Ukraine's government was famously corrupt and questionably democratic.

However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.

Greetings!

Indeed, Null, Zelensky is an inspiring badass! I saw an interview with him where he said, no, he isn't leaving Ukraine, he isn't going anywhere. He said he is here, in the streets, with his people and his soldiers, ready to fight the invaders to the last.

Fucking awesome!

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2022, 06:49:19 PM »
Yay, my moms out of the Ukraine and in Poland. She said a bunch of people from Africa decided to also rush the border at the same time so it took longer, but shes safe.

That just leaves everybody else I know in Ukraine.
However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.
Yup

Greetings!

Outstanding to hear, Shrieking Banshee! I hope that the rest of your family are safe as well.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #119 on: February 27, 2022, 07:06:19 PM »
... And here you and Jaeger are, being convenient little fucking puppets of Putin dancing to his tune and looking for any excuse to push his propaganda.
...

You are very selective in your quotes. Typical behavior.

Push his propaganda? So calling Putin a Bad Dude is supporting his interests how?

Being a disingenuous Liar yet again.


Null 42 is correct:

However, IMHO, Putin invaded a country that didn't attack him, and that makes him the bad guy.

But there are no white hats here.

Putin is a Bad Dude. But the West ain't lily white here either.

All those articles from liberal news outlets that I linked to casting American foreign policy in a bad light were all A-OK until Putin attacked.

And now, like magic, the internet is filled with: "All that shit that everyone reported on before - well um, uh, it's all Russian propaganda now!"

As if the West doesn't know how to do propaganda either?



Everyone is pushing their propaganda 24/7 right now. Everyone.

Were all those stories I linked to from Years ago really all Russian propaganda? Or was it just good reporting that is inconvenient reading now that the West left Ukraine holding the bag?

You should tell the BBC to make up its mind.

On the one hand they report on the US interfering in a sovereign nations internal affairs:

Victoria Nuland at the State Department in 2014: (Currently serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

And three years later they are highlighting how Russia pushes its narrative in the Ukraine:

Pro-Russia propaganda machine in Ukraine
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41915295

The BBC didn't seem to like either side...


The only real truth here is this:

The Ukrainian people have gotten screwed.

It's all a big mess.

And Nobody knows the full story because everyone involved in this shit since the fall of the USSR is shady as fuck.

Greetings!

Exactly right, Jaeger! I have seen these videos and news reports and documentaries--with interviews by Western journalists!--going back several years--say, 2014, 2015, and since. Our ellow member here, S'mon, has also heard about the Nazi Azov Battalions. Shrieking Banshee, also. I saw Grim Jim's video on Ukraine--and Grim Jim talked also about Nazi troops in Ukraine. Grim Jim said that Nazis don't have as much control as some fear--but he said Putin's statements in regard to Nazis in Ukraine was exaggerated, but honestly having some legitimate merit.

The whole lead up to this war with our involvement in Ukraine, the colour revolution, the working to get Ukraine into NATO, pushing advisors and other troops into Ukraine, disrespecting Russia, disregarding past security treaties and promises made to Russia about the expansion of NATO eastwards, EU and US bureaucrats working to get rich themselves and ensure that Ukraine got fucked--yeah, there are no white hats here in regards to the governments involved. It has been disgusting, absolutely corrupt, and shameful. Like the Liberals have whined about constantly in regards to foreign affairs, "It's nuanced! It's a complicated situation!"

I have heard that Ukrainians are fighting hard and resisting the Russian invasion. A Ukrainian woman and her finace were to get married in May--instead, they got married two days ago, because they believed that they may not have lived to be married in May. Two hours after getting married in the church, the couple were in the streets fighting the Russians. They said this way, they can fight and die together as husband and wife before God.

Inspiring!

Semper Fidelis,

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