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Author Topic: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.  (Read 63673 times)

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #990 on: September 19, 2022, 03:58:12 PM »
OMG.  I was out walking in Virginia and came upon some mass graves.

What happened here?!  How is it different than these?

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #991 on: September 19, 2022, 04:36:08 PM »
OMG.  I was out walking in Virginia and came upon some mass graves.

What happened here?!  How is it different than these?


Once again: because they found civilians with their hands tied behind their backs, ropes around some necks, and execution wounds on them.

But I guess keep spinning atrocities for...reasons? It makes you look awesome to deny torture and murder.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2022, 04:39:59 PM by Mistwell »

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« Reply #992 on: September 19, 2022, 05:58:59 PM »
Okay, given your assumption that we are in the USA in 1937, you wouldn't have any concrete evidence that says "The USSR has the GULAG system?"

Which is why I am saying given you know there are situations in history where the mass preponderance of evidence says X is happening, even when you don't have a perfect level of proof, sometimes you have to take the relatively minor risk to act as if X is happening. Otherwise you will be agnostic and neutral in all things - which you're not. We've all seen you right here on this message board take positions and assume facts which you don't have 100% proof for, so why is this one a hitch in your ability to draw conclusions from the evidence we have?

Take for example these gems from you:

"I'm in NYC and we had a massive fucking blackout because there was a chokepoint failure point." Your "proof" the cause of the blackout was a chokepoint failure point? Based on media reports, not personal proof. But those media reports you accept for...reasons?

"And yet, people are FAR more outraged over the 20k loan forgiveness per student, totaling under $600 billion, rather than the multiple trillions of bailouts given to corporate pedophiles." Your proof "multiple trillions" of bailout went to "corporate pedophile?" WAY way less than the Ukraine reports, almost entirely from anonymous sources which have been shown to have been repeatedly wrong on major topics.

"You know when the pedophiles working in Wall St tanked the US economy?" Your proof is again what, some Q shit?

"the pedophile politicians gave 16 trillion to Wall St when they fucked up, because the banks were too big to fail." Proof the politicians who gave the bailout were pedophiles? More Q shit.

We could go on. Your post history is fully of you making assumptions based on thin or zero evidence - levels of evidence far less well supported than what's coming out of Ukraine. So why the sudden "You need 100% proof to believe anything" standard when it's apparently "You need a mere scintilla of evidence which matches my world view" for so many other topics for you?

>chokepoint failure point
I worked for Con Edison at the time and have several relatives and family friends working for them.

>multiple trillions
Worked on Wall St. during OWS and the financial crisis, working for a minor (but still global) lending partner in IT. So yes, I had access to the books.

>pedophiles
:^)


So yeah, all of my claims are based on personal knowledge or knowledge of blood or knowledge of family. I can reference other sources, but only for theory, not for "this actually happened" because I do not believe them either.


Oh and also, don't say "they found blah blah hands behind their backs." The state-controlled media says that they did. Whether they really did or not, well, you have no proof. I remember the Ghost of Kiev. Or when the maternity ward was "bombed" how there was a bucket of red paint near one of the doors smeared with blood.

Also, you're looking at my post history? Creepy, dude. Pic related.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #993 on: September 19, 2022, 07:53:57 PM »
Okay, given your assumption that we are in the USA in 1937, you wouldn't have any concrete evidence that says "The USSR has the GULAG system?"

Which is why I am saying given you know there are situations in history where the mass preponderance of evidence says X is happening, even when you don't have a perfect level of proof, sometimes you have to take the relatively minor risk to act as if X is happening. Otherwise you will be agnostic and neutral in all things - which you're not. We've all seen you right here on this message board take positions and assume facts which you don't have 100% proof for, so why is this one a hitch in your ability to draw conclusions from the evidence we have?

Take for example these gems from you:

"I'm in NYC and we had a massive fucking blackout because there was a chokepoint failure point." Your "proof" the cause of the blackout was a chokepoint failure point? Based on media reports, not personal proof. But those media reports you accept for...reasons?

"And yet, people are FAR more outraged over the 20k loan forgiveness per student, totaling under $600 billion, rather than the multiple trillions of bailouts given to corporate pedophiles." Your proof "multiple trillions" of bailout went to "corporate pedophile?" WAY way less than the Ukraine reports, almost entirely from anonymous sources which have been shown to have been repeatedly wrong on major topics.

"You know when the pedophiles working in Wall St tanked the US economy?" Your proof is again what, some Q shit?

"the pedophile politicians gave 16 trillion to Wall St when they fucked up, because the banks were too big to fail." Proof the politicians who gave the bailout were pedophiles? More Q shit.

We could go on. Your post history is fully of you making assumptions based on thin or zero evidence - levels of evidence far less well supported than what's coming out of Ukraine. So why the sudden "You need 100% proof to believe anything" standard when it's apparently "You need a mere scintilla of evidence which matches my world view" for so many other topics for you?

>chokepoint failure point
I worked for Con Edison at the time and have several relatives and family friends working for them.

>multiple trillions
Worked on Wall St. during OWS and the financial crisis, working for a minor (but still global) lending partner in IT. So yes, I had access to the books.

>pedophiles
:^)


So yeah, all of my claims are based on personal knowledge or knowledge of blood or knowledge of family. I can reference other sources, but only for theory, not for "this actually happened" because I do not believe them either.


Oh and also, don't say "they found blah blah hands behind their backs." The state-controlled media says that they did. Whether they really did or not, well, you have no proof. I remember the Ghost of Kiev. Or when the maternity ward was "bombed" how there was a bucket of red paint near one of the doors smeared with blood.

Also, you're looking at my post history? Creepy, dude. Pic related.

You're hand waiving "pedophiles" in all that? Even though that was more than half of what you're responding to?

Yeah dude, you accepting and regurgitating Qanon pedophiles bullshit is relevant to whether you hold yourself to a standard of proof or not about world events.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #994 on: September 19, 2022, 10:26:43 PM »
I'm not about to incriminate myself. I will vaguely say that I know people who were a little too young and foolhardy and got mixed up in shit that they shouldn't have been mixed up in and those people have very deep pockets and very interesting connections.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #995 on: September 21, 2022, 06:54:41 PM »
I'm not about to incriminate myself. I will vaguely say that I know people who were a little too young and foolhardy and got mixed up in shit that they shouldn't have been mixed up in and those people have very deep pockets and very interesting connections.

That is not sufficient evidence to prove the claims you're making.

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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #996 on: October 10, 2022, 11:15:30 AM »
Slava Ukraina!


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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #997 on: October 10, 2022, 12:21:20 PM »
Thanks for the laugh, I needed that this morning.
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Re: Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.
« Reply #998 on: November 07, 2022, 08:53:46 AM »
Just started reading this inspiring memoir by Zelensky's recent press secretary, "The Fight of Our Lives: My Time with Zelensky." (I am also currently reading a 1950s biography of Sir John A. MacDonald the first prime minister of the Dominion of Canada, another hero who envisioned a nation.)

https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Our-Lives-Zelenskyy-Democracy/dp/1668012715