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Ukraine is under attack. It's a full on war.

Started by Jam The MF, February 24, 2022, 12:54:20 AM

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Jaeger

Quote from: Daztur on August 04, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on August 04, 2022, 07:59:50 PM
More pro-Russia propaganda:

Amnesty International UK
Press releases

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

Translation: Ukraine defends cities from Russian attacks instead of abandoning them. This results in Russians hitting those cities with artillery barrages. Somehow this is Ukraine's fault.

And with one article, Amnesty International became a "puppet" of the Kremlin...
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Daztur on August 04, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on August 04, 2022, 07:59:50 PM
More pro-Russia propaganda:

Amnesty International UK
Press releases

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

Translation: Ukraine defends cities from Russian attacks instead of abandoning them. This results in Russians hitting those cities with artillery barrages. Somehow this is Ukraine's fault.
Ukraine should've just let Russia run roughshod over them, as is proper.

(/sarc, obviously)

I

Quote from: Jaeger on August 05, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Daztur on August 04, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on August 04, 2022, 07:59:50 PM
More pro-Russia propaganda:

Amnesty International UK
Press releases

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

Translation: Ukraine defends cities from Russian attacks instead of abandoning them. This results in Russians hitting those cities with artillery barrages. Somehow this is Ukraine's fault.

And with one article, Amnesty International became a "puppet" of the Kremlin...

Don't forget to add the Associated Press to your list of puppets.  Their own reporters pretty much confirmed everything in Amnesty's report:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-donetsk-amnesty-international-7eb46d7e7cd2205403f7bf45ad7122cc

Visitor Q

Quote from: Jaeger on August 05, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Daztur on August 04, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on August 04, 2022, 07:59:50 PM
More pro-Russia propaganda:

Amnesty International UK
Press releases

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

Translation: Ukraine defends cities from Russian attacks instead of abandoning them. This results in Russians hitting those cities with artillery barrages. Somehow this is Ukraine's fault.

And with one article, Amnesty International became a "puppet" of the Kremlin...

In other news a home owner recently encouraged violent theft by allowing themselves to be beaten up by a burglar breaking into their house.

::)


Wntrlnd

What AI doesn't understand is that Ukraine is damned if they do, but double-damned if they don't.

Yes, it's true that deploying in a city close to civilians will put them in harms way, but if they don't deploy in the city, the russians will shell civilians anyway (as they are already doing everywhere else) as well as leaving them defenseless against raping, murdering and kidnapping.

It is moronic to more or less accuse Ukraine to use civilians as human shields because that would assume russians care.

I

Speaking of puppets, where's Zelensky been lately?  Haven't seen too much of him in the news recently.  I suppose he's resting up from that positively exhausting Vogue fashion photo shoot.  Good article.  It reminded me of that time Churchill took a vacation from defending Britain to go down and model men's beachwear at El Alamein for the fashion season of '42.

Daztur

Quote from: Jaeger on August 05, 2022, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Daztur on August 04, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on August 04, 2022, 07:59:50 PM
More pro-Russia propaganda:

Amnesty International UK
Press releases

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new

Translation: Ukraine defends cities from Russian attacks instead of abandoning them. This results in Russians hitting those cities with artillery barrages. Somehow this is Ukraine's fault.

And with one article, Amnesty International became a "puppet" of the Kremlin...

You don't have to be a puppet of the Kremlin to be an idiot. What the fuck were the Ukrainians supposed to do? Leave all urban areas completely undefended?

Jaeger

Quote from: Daztur on August 08, 2022, 12:41:46 AM
You don't have to be a puppet of the Kremlin to be an idiot. What the fuck were the Ukrainians supposed to do? Leave all urban areas completely undefended?

I dunno, maybe they could evacuate the civilian buildings around their defensive emplacements to give the people that they are ostensibly defending half a chance?

Just tossing that out there.
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

Tallifer

The fog of war and censorship is thick over the progress or disappointment of the Ukraine's ongoing counteroffensive toward Kherson. God willing, the Ukraine will prevail and the undermotivated Russians will flee or surrender, but Putin's mercenaries and Muslim soldiers might fight to the death out of desperation.

(Fun fact I learned: Kherson is not Cherson, the Byzantine name for Chersonesus which was an ancient Greek colony near Sevastopol, but is rather a creation of Catherine the Great and named after the ancient city.)

DocJones

Quote from: Tallifer on September 01, 2022, 09:07:05 AM
(Fun fact I learned: Kherson is not Cherson, the Byzantine name for Chersonesus which was an ancient Greek colony near Sevastopol, but is rather a creation of Catherine the Great and named after the ancient city.)
So it does belong to Russian empire.  Kitty wants it back.


Tallifer

Quote from: DocJones on September 02, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
Quote from: Tallifer on September 01, 2022, 09:07:05 AM
(Fun fact I learned: Kherson is not Cherson, the Byzantine name for Chersonesus which was an ancient Greek colony near Sevastopol, but is rather a creation of Catherine the Great and named after the ancient city.)
So it does belong to Russian empire.  Kitty wants it back.

<laughs> By that reasoning, the entire east coast of America (except for Nieu Amsterdam) belongs to Britain. And all the cities founded by Alexander and named after himself belong to Greece. But Istanbul belongs neither to Greece nor Turkey but to Italy since it was founded by the Roman emperor Constantine.


Tallifer

My spirits have been lifted by the recent news from Ukraine. Who else is heartened by the successful Ukrainian counter-offensive to liberate the Kharkiv oblast?

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Tallifer on September 13, 2022, 10:09:11 AM
My spirits have been lifted by the recent news from Ukraine. Who else is heartened by the successful Ukrainian counter-offensive to liberate the Kharkiv oblast?
While I'm not the biggest fan of Ukraine due to the endemic corruption, it amuses me to watch the Russians get their teeth kicked in.

zircher

I'm in the same fan club.  Putin seems concerned about eating a bullet lately and has curtailed some of his public appearances.
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