Turning the corner on "woke"?

[Ghostmaker]

Also, it should be noted that Antifa has had it's greatest success (for what's measured as such) when it enjoys the patronage of elements in the institutions that SHOULD be telling them to cool it down.

David Z. Hines commented on this in his review of Days of Rage; the leftist machine works best when it has Shock Troops (Antifa) and Institutions (the media, the DA's office).

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

How about any kind of proof?

Like, for example, talking about porch monkeys.

Like a number of people talking about Clarence Thomas, eh?

[oggsmash]

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

Apparently anyone who thinks white people are being demographically replaced by other races in the US are white supremacists.

The odd thing is those saying it are PBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, PEW research, the Census bureau, etc.

  I remember a few pictures and articles floated around with noted White Supremacist Mark Potoc's hand written stat sheet of the declining percentage of population in the USA every decade of non hispanic whites.    Someone should ask him why he is so concerned with such a thing.

[Shasarak]

Also, it should be noted that Antifa has had it's greatest success (for what's measured as such) when it enjoys the patronage of elements in the institutions that SHOULD be telling them to cool it down.

David Z. Hines commented on this in his review of Days of Rage; the leftist machine works best when it has Shock Troops (Antifa) and Institutions (the media, the DA's office).

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

How about any kind of proof?

Like, for example, talking about porch monkeys.

Like a number of people talking about Clarence Thomas, eh?

That would be a good sign that they are white supremacists.

[Eirikrautha]

Also, it should be noted that Antifa has had it's greatest success (for what's measured as such) when it enjoys the patronage of elements in the institutions that SHOULD be telling them to cool it down.

David Z. Hines commented on this in his review of Days of Rage; the leftist machine works best when it has Shock Troops (Antifa) and Institutions (the media, the DA's office).

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

My standard of proof is showing he supports white supremacists.  Many white supremicists support curing cancer.  Do you?  Does that make you a white supremacist?  See, having areas in which people agree does not mean they agree on everything.  What makes someone a white supremacist is that they believe white people are superior to every other race.  In order for Tucker Carlson to support white supremicists, he would need to support or defend the idea that white people are superior to other races.

You realize that many white supremicists support the ability to state controversial ideas (like their own) in public.  That is support of free speech.  So, by your logic, anyone who supports free speech is using the "talking points" of white supremicists, supporting white supremicists, etc.  That's inane.  By this logic, every defense attorney in history has supported every crime imaginable.

So, basically, your assertion boils down to, "Well, I can't show where he espouses white supremacist ideas, but, since I hate him and them, he must be a white supremacist."  This is why your opinion is garbage.

[GeekyBugle]

Nope, we're not turning the corner like I said many pages back, but we might be starting to see the corner. Just look at what GenCon did.

https://archive.is/RrvRU

[HappyDaze]

Also, it should be noted that Antifa has had it's greatest success (for what's measured as such) when it enjoys the patronage of elements in the institutions that SHOULD be telling them to cool it down.

David Z. Hines commented on this in his review of Days of Rage; the leftist machine works best when it has Shock Troops (Antifa) and Institutions (the media, the DA's office).

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

My standard of proof is showing he supports white supremacists.  Many white supremicists support curing cancer.  Do you?  Does that make you a white supremacist?  See, having areas in which people agree does not mean they agree on everything.  What makes someone a white supremacist is that they believe white people are superior to every other race.  In order for Tucker Carlson to support white supremicists, he would need to support or defend the idea that white people are superior to other races.

You realize that many white supremicists support the ability to state controversial ideas (like their own) in public.  That is support of free speech.  So, by your logic, anyone who supports free speech is using the "talking points" of white supremicists, supporting white supremicists, etc.  That's inane.  By this logic, every defense attorney in history has supported every crime imaginable.

So, basically, your assertion boils down to, "Well, I can't show where he espouses white supremacist ideas, but, since I hate him and them, he must be a white supremacist."  This is why your opinion is garbage.

You're so very quick to defend the white supremecists. [Shasharak Black]I'm sure it's a total coincidence.[/Shasharak Black]

[jeff37923]

Also, it should be noted that Antifa has had it's greatest success (for what's measured as such) when it enjoys the patronage of elements in the institutions that SHOULD be telling them to cool it down.

David Z. Hines commented on this in his review of Days of Rage; the leftist machine works best when it has Shock Troops (Antifa) and Institutions (the media, the DA's office).

That argument applies for extemists on either side. For example, white supremecist shitbacks enjoy their support from Tucker Carlson.

I would be interested in any direct evidence that Tucker Carlson supports white supremicists.  Or is this just the standard leftist "Anyone I don't like is a white supremacist"?

What is your standard of proof? He's not likely to be marching with them hand in hand, but his talking points mirror those of white supremacists, he minimizes any critique against white supremacists, and is aggressive in attacking opponents of white supremacists. Just do a search on any of those and you'll find lots of reading material.

My standard of proof is showing he supports white supremacists.  Many white supremicists support curing cancer.  Do you?  Does that make you a white supremacist?  See, having areas in which people agree does not mean they agree on everything.  What makes someone a white supremacist is that they believe white people are superior to every other race.  In order for Tucker Carlson to support white supremicists, he would need to support or defend the idea that white people are superior to other races.

You realize that many white supremicists support the ability to state controversial ideas (like their own) in public.  That is support of free speech.  So, by your logic, anyone who supports free speech is using the "talking points" of white supremicists, supporting white supremicists, etc.  That's inane.  By this logic, every defense attorney in history has supported every crime imaginable.

So, basically, your assertion boils down to, "Well, I can't show where he espouses white supremacist ideas, but, since I hate him and them, he must be a white supremacist."  This is why your opinion is garbage.

You're so very quick to defend the white supremecists. [Shasharak Black]I'm sure it's a total coincidence.[/Shasharak Black]

Fuck you and your attempts at spreading Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, HayyDerp.

[oggsmash]

  Regarding turning a corner, I have noticed all the protests these days are called pro abortion protests.  Seems they have decided to drop the pretense these people were "pro choice" and just call themselves what they are, pro abortion.  I guess we can start a timer till pro life is a white supremacist movement, or is it already a white supremacist talking point?

[Pat]

  Regarding turning a corner, I have noticed all the protests these days are called pro abortion protests.  Seems they have decided to drop the pretense these people were "pro choice" and just call themselves what they are, pro abortion.

NPR also calls it a "Constitutional right" so often and so consistently, it can't be an accident. Just like the switch from "climate change" to "climate crisis", the use of "insurrection" or "attack on democracy", or any of a very long list of biased phrases that replace neutral statements.

This is a war being fought in the trenches of the style guides.

[Trond]

You're so very quick to defend the white supremecists. [Shasharak Black]I'm sure it's a total coincidence.[/Shasharak Black]

I remember when white supremacists used to mean people wearing swastikas or pointy hoods. Nowadays it's anyone who's not totally on board with reparations or preaching about "microaggressions".

[GeekyBugle]

You're so very quick to defend the white supremecists. [Shasharak Black]I'm sure it's a total coincidence.[/Shasharak Black]

I remember when white supremacists used to mean people wearing swastikas or pointy hoods. Nowadays it's anyone who's not totally on board with reparations or preaching about "microaggressions".

Why do you make me deffend happyderp?

He's being sarcastic, he's actually saying the opposite of what he wrote. Much like Shasarak constantly does (and has trolled me on occasion).

[Battlemaster]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

[Trond]

You're so very quick to defend the white supremecists. [Shasharak Black]I'm sure it's a total coincidence.[/Shasharak Black]

I remember when white supremacists used to mean people wearing swastikas or pointy hoods. Nowadays it's anyone who's not totally on board with reparations or preaching about "microaggressions".

Why do you make me deffend happyderp?

He's being sarcastic, he's actually saying the opposite of what he wrote. Much like Shasarak constantly does (and has trolled me on occasion).

only the last bit is sarcastic. He's actually saying that Tucker Carlson supports white supremacists. 

[Eirikrautha]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

"Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement..."  <-- goblins, eh?

The really funny part is that you are so self-unaware that you don't realize you are doing exactly what you accuse others of.  It's almost too pitiful to laugh at... almost...

[GeekyBugle]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

Yeah, yeah, antifa is an idea not a terrorist group, the woke don't exist or are just angels who only want society to be butter...

Fuck off.

Lets see, McCarthy did nothing wrong, his only mistake was to think it was just a few commie scum.

Socialists/communists/fascists/bolsheviks/mencheviks/tankies/etc ARE the bad guys.

I find it VERY interesting the mixing of the Jews in there, Jews are an ethnicity, so you're born a Jew (Sure you can convert to Judaism but we KNOW lefties never talk about the converts but about the ethnic jews), especially from a self admited leftie, Hitler lifted the J Question from Marx, only difference they had different final solutions to it.