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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #420 on: April 25, 2022, 08:26:50 PM »
Elon Musk just bought Twitter.

This is going to be fun.
This changes... Nothing whatsoever for me. Never used Twitter, never will.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #421 on: April 26, 2022, 12:56:56 AM »
This is more significant than you give it credit to it’s the first real challenge to big techs monopoly. The algorithm going open source also will expose the bias we knew was there. My eye is on the feds atm at what they will do. We know they are in bed with social media and big tech to get around 1st ammendment violations
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #422 on: April 26, 2022, 02:19:00 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.




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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #423 on: April 26, 2022, 02:21:48 AM »

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.

And many more (including me) are not, but I suppose you don't believe in parents having any rights over what their children are taught (or rather indoctrinated), or in democracy, hence why you are playing semantic games over the word 'taught' when you know damn well what other posters mean.

In other words you are a bad actor with an agenda and not worth any more of my, or anyone else's time.

Only in so far as the children are being indoctrinated in ways the cock sucking commie agrees with.

Ok. Give me an example of an actual instance of a teacher who is in a same sex relationship or who themselves are trans that engaged in actually indoctrinating a child into becoming trans or homosexual.

Give me an actual real world instance where this actually happened. Give me an example of how a previously cis gendered student became gay or trans as a direct result of the actions of a teacher who they themselves were gay or trans?

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« Reply #424 on: April 26, 2022, 02:39:25 AM »
This is more significant than you give it credit to it’s the first real challenge to big techs monopoly. The algorithm going open source also will expose the bias we knew was there. My eye is on the feds atm at what they will do. We know they are in bed with social media and big tech to get around 1st ammendment violations
I'm interested in seeing the algorithm go open source and be allowed to be examined.

I'd like to see how my social media feed is being manipulated.

As far as 1st amendment violations, it remains to be seen. Free speech is protected from government action, not private corporations (which is why being banned on twitter is not a 1st amendment violation). Twitter can implement whatever limitations on speech it desires now and under Musk. If Musk wants to open the flood gates, so be it. We can let the 'free market' decide. In light of the lack of popularity of other so called 'free speech' platforms... this can probably ruin Twitter as a platform.

In my opinion, the people clamouring the most about free speech are the ones whose speech is the most abhorred.


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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #425 on: April 26, 2022, 02:53:23 AM »

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.

And many more (including me) are not, but I suppose you don't believe in parents having any rights over what their children are taught (or rather indoctrinated), or in democracy, hence why you are playing semantic games over the word 'taught' when you know damn well what other posters mean.

In other words you are a bad actor with an agenda and not worth any more of my, or anyone else's time.

Only in so far as the children are being indoctrinated in ways the cock sucking commie agrees with.

Ok. Give me an example of an actual instance of a teacher who is in a same sex relationship or who themselves are trans that engaged in actually indoctrinating a child into becoming trans or homosexual.

Give me an actual real world instance where this actually happened. Give me an example of how a previously cis gendered student became gay or trans as a direct result of the actions of a teacher who they themselves were gay or trans?

LOL, are you sure this is the right discussion?

We're talking about CRT and INDOCTRINATING children into your cult.

Something you first said wasn't happening and then said it was a good thing it was happening.

So, given that we all agree it's happening, the only remaining argument is that you believe that making children racists is a good thing while we think that making children judge in the basis of character and not skin tone is a good thing.

And, given that you ALREADY agreed it was happening go fuck yourself with demands of any evidence of something you agreed was happening.
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #426 on: April 26, 2022, 02:55:24 AM »
This is more significant than you give it credit to it’s the first real challenge to big techs monopoly. The algorithm going open source also will expose the bias we knew was there. My eye is on the feds atm at what they will do. We know they are in bed with social media and big tech to get around 1st ammendment violations
I'm interested in seeing the algorithm go open source and be allowed to be examined.

I'd like to see how my social media feed is being manipulated.

As far as 1st amendment violations, it remains to be seen. Free speech is protected from government action, not private corporations (which is why being banned on twitter is not a 1st amendment violation). Twitter can implement whatever limitations on speech it desires now and under Musk. If Musk wants to open the flood gates, so be it. We can let the 'free market' decide. In light of the lack of popularity of other so called 'free speech' platforms... this can probably ruin Twitter as a platform.

In my opinion, the people clamouring the most about free speech are the ones whose speech is the most abhorred.

Which is the only speech that needs protection dumbass.

Why is it that all cock sucking commies think THAT "argument" is going to convince anyone but other smoothbrains from their cult?
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #427 on: April 26, 2022, 02:59:08 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.

Okay smoothbrain, prove it. Provide a law, rule or policy that does what you claim and prove it. I know of only one such policy but I very much doubt it's the one your room temperature IQ is thinking of. Because it goes against your cult's dogma to think like I do.

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« Reply #428 on: April 26, 2022, 03:01:06 AM »

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.

And many more (including me) are not, but I suppose you don't believe in parents having any rights over what their children are taught (or rather indoctrinated), or in democracy, hence why you are playing semantic games over the word 'taught' when you know damn well what other posters mean.

In other words you are a bad actor with an agenda and not worth any more of my, or anyone else's time.

Only in so far as the children are being indoctrinated in ways the cock sucking commie agrees with.

Ok. Give me an example of an actual instance of a teacher who is in a same sex relationship or who themselves are trans that engaged in actually indoctrinating a child into becoming trans or homosexual.

Give me an actual real world instance where this actually happened. Give me an example of how a previously cis gendered student became gay or trans as a direct result of the actions of a teacher who they themselves were gay or trans?

LOL, are you sure this is the right discussion?

We're talking about CRT and INDOCTRINATING children into your cult.

Something you first said wasn't happening and then said it was a good thing it was happening.

So, given that we all agree it's happening, the only remaining argument is that you believe that making children racists is a good thing while we think that making children judge in the basis of character and not skin tone is a good thing.

And, given that you ALREADY agreed it was happening go fuck yourself with demands of any evidence of something you agreed was happening.

You failed to actually answer my question.

I asked give me an instance where a teacher in a same sex relationship or a trans teacher has through their direct actions converted a cis gender student into being homosexual or trans. And this is what you come back with. I'm asking for actual evidence.
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« Reply #429 on: April 26, 2022, 03:09:50 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.

Okay smoothbrain, prove it. Provide a law, rule or policy that does what you claim and prove it. I know of only one such policy but I very much doubt it's the one your room temperature IQ is thinking of. Because it goes against your cult's dogma to think like I do.



You are asking me about laws, rules or policies that claim what, exactly? The discrimination against minorities? Ok...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20the,of%20race%20or%20national%20origin.

https://www.aclu.org/other/drug-war-new-jim-crow

https://www.financialsamurai.com/mortgage-interest-rates-by-race/

https://norml.org/marijuana/fact-sheets/racial-disparity-in-marijuana-arrests/

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/impact-voter-suppression-communities-color

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/06/racial_disparities_traffic_stops.php#.YmeaY_PMIiw

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/eliminating-black-white-wealth-gap-generational-challenge/

Edited because maybe I was too snarky. I'm arguing in good faith here. You asked for examples of policies, and I'm providing them. I'm just asking you to do the same.


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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #430 on: April 26, 2022, 03:21:53 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.

Okay smoothbrain, prove it. Provide a law, rule or policy that does what you claim and prove it. I know of only one such policy but I very much doubt it's the one your room temperature IQ is thinking of. Because it goes against your cult's dogma to think like I do.



You are asking me about laws, rules or policies that claim what, exactly? The discrimination against minorities? Lol, fine where do I begin...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20the,of%20race%20or%20national%20origin.

https://www.aclu.org/other/drug-war-new-jim-crow

https://www.financialsamurai.com/mortgage-interest-rates-by-race/

https://norml.org/marijuana/fact-sheets/racial-disparity-in-marijuana-arrests/

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/impact-voter-suppression-communities-color

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/06/racial_disparities_traffic_stops.php#.YmeaY_PMIiw

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/eliminating-black-white-wealth-gap-generational-challenge/

Lol. do you want more? You have yet to provide a single link to evidence of the question I asked you.

Laws, rules and policies that aren't in use anymore...

Trafic stops... That have been proven not to be because of racism but because some are prone to speeding...

Marijuana arrests... You mean to tell me that if someone smokes it in their home is less likelly to get arrested? wow!

You mean to tell me that banks charge you more in interest rates if you're poor? WOW!

Who destroyed Black Wall Street? Democrats
Who instituted Jim Crow? Democrats
Who was behind the KKK? Democrats
Who was the dear mentor of $hillary?
Who demanded the increase in the penalty for crack cocaine? Black activists.

I think you're barking at the wrong tree.

He who has eyes to see and ears to hear...

It has been proven by your self that you're a bad faith actor.
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« Reply #431 on: April 26, 2022, 03:26:42 AM »
This is more significant than you give it credit to it’s the first real challenge to big techs monopoly. The algorithm going open source also will expose the bias we knew was there. My eye is on the feds atm at what they will do. We know they are in bed with social media and big tech to get around 1st ammendment violations
I'm interested in seeing the algorithm go open source and be allowed to be examined.

I'd like to see how my social media feed is being manipulated.

As far as 1st amendment violations, it remains to be seen. Free speech is protected from government action, not private corporations (which is why being banned on twitter is not a 1st amendment violation). Twitter can implement whatever limitations on speech it desires now and under Musk. If Musk wants to open the flood gates, so be it. We can let the 'free market' decide. In light of the lack of popularity of other so called 'free speech' platforms... this can probably ruin Twitter as a platform.

In my opinion, the people clamouring the most about free speech are the ones whose speech is the most abhorred.

Which is the only speech that needs protection dumbass.

Why is it that all cock sucking commies think THAT "argument" is going to convince anyone but other smoothbrains from their cult?

Well fair enough. If you want free speech and you are acting in actual good faith then sure. Let anyone who proposes speech have that speech be contextualized by the people and let them decide its value.

But if you want to use your free speech to incite aggression, imply falsehoods, or engage in manipulations against an other... that is no longer free speech that is an attack on the well being of another person. This is why we have libel laws and defamation laws. The right to free speech does not give you the right to use your speech to harm others.

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« Reply #432 on: April 26, 2022, 03:28:58 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.

Okay smoothbrain, prove it. Provide a law, rule or policy that does what you claim and prove it. I know of only one such policy but I very much doubt it's the one your room temperature IQ is thinking of. Because it goes against your cult's dogma to think like I do.



You are asking me about laws, rules or policies that claim what, exactly? The discrimination against minorities? Lol, fine where do I begin...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20the,of%20race%20or%20national%20origin.

https://www.aclu.org/other/drug-war-new-jim-crow

https://www.financialsamurai.com/mortgage-interest-rates-by-race/

https://norml.org/marijuana/fact-sheets/racial-disparity-in-marijuana-arrests/

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/impact-voter-suppression-communities-color

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/06/racial_disparities_traffic_stops.php#.YmeaY_PMIiw

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/eliminating-black-white-wealth-gap-generational-challenge/

Lol. do you want more? You have yet to provide a single link to evidence of the question I asked you.

Laws, rules and policies that aren't in use anymore...

Trafic stops... That have been proven not to be because of racism but because some are prone to speeding...

Marijuana arrests... You mean to tell me that if someone smokes it in their home is less likelly to get arrested? wow!

You mean to tell me that banks charge you more in interest rates if you're poor? WOW!

Who destroyed Black Wall Street? Democrats
Who instituted Jim Crow? Democrats
Who was behind the KKK? Democrats
Who was the dear mentor of $hillary?
Who demanded the increase in the penalty for crack cocaine? Black activists.

I think you're barking at the wrong tree.

He who has eyes to see and ears to hear...

It has been proven by your self that you're a bad faith actor.
You can type whatever you want. But you still haven't provided any actual evidence to support anything you say. You also still haven't responded with any evidence based on the question I asked you.

Your response is just words typed by you. With no actual backing or support. And lol... you can cite dixie democrats but not the same party that exists today, just like the republican party from the past is not the same as it is today. But you can just use the label out of context to try to prove your point (without any actual links or citations to support your claims).

For example:

https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/blackrights/jimcrow

It is important to remember that the Democrats and Republicans of the late 1800s were very different parties from their current iterations. Republicans in the time of the Civil War and directly after were literally the party of Lincoln and anathema to the South. As white, Southern Democrats took over legislatures in the former Confederate states, they began passing more restrictive voter registration and electoral laws, as well as passing legislation to segregate blacks and whites.



I'm sorry but I held up my end of your question, you haven't held up yours. If you don't want to engage with me in good faith, just say so. But please stop or actually provide citations. If you provide a citation from a credible source, I'll read it.
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #433 on: April 26, 2022, 06:45:47 AM »
This is more significant than you give it credit to it’s the first real challenge to big techs monopoly. The algorithm going open source also will expose the bias we knew was there. My eye is on the feds atm at what they will do. We know they are in bed with social media and big tech to get around 1st ammendment violations
I'm interested in seeing the algorithm go open source and be allowed to be examined.

I'd like to see how my social media feed is being manipulated.

As far as 1st amendment violations, it remains to be seen. Free speech is protected from government action, not private corporations (which is why being banned on twitter is not a 1st amendment violation). Twitter can implement whatever limitations on speech it desires now and under Musk. If Musk wants to open the flood gates, so be it. We can let the 'free market' decide. In light of the lack of popularity of other so called 'free speech' platforms... this can probably ruin Twitter as a platform.

In my opinion, the people clamouring the most about free speech are the ones whose speech is the most abhorred.

Which is the only speech that needs protection dumbass.

Why is it that all cock sucking commies think THAT "argument" is going to convince anyone but other smoothbrains from their cult?

Well fair enough. If you want free speech and you are acting in actual good faith then sure. Let anyone who proposes speech have that speech be contextualized by the people and let them decide its value.

But if you want to use your free speech to incite aggression, imply falsehoods, or engage in manipulations against an other... that is no longer free speech that is an attack on the well being of another person. This is why we have libel laws and defamation laws. The right to free speech does not give you the right to use your speech to harm others.

All of which you need to prove.

You have the right not to listen/read/etc to X. You don't have the right to prevent others from listening/reading/etc to X. If you claim that X has commited a crime prove it.
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #434 on: April 26, 2022, 06:52:10 AM »
  No one thinks critical race theory is taught in schools.  HOWEVER, many of the conclusions reached from critical race theory are in fact taught, or attempts at applying these things are all over the place.  It is playing a semantic game to say there is no critical race theory in the sense of there being some course that teaches such.   The influence of critical race theory (of which MANY professors have a great deal of contact with, the people indoctrinating/training teachers,  and I suspect a rather large portion of the professor population agrees with) is there for all to see.  I honestly feel it was the most convenient name to call it, and one thing people get scared about is when people start naming an enemy.  If something can not have a name, well it can not be, right?  So again we get endless word games.
In much fewer words, Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

CRT is not taught in schools below graduate level law school. If you say it is you are a liar.
Oh look, a liar!

As far as CRT's influence on culture and learning. I am glad that it has made an impact.
Oh look, you admit you're a liar!
Well, you are failing to make a distinction between two different concepts.

CRT is a theory on examining systemic racism and how it has impacted the lives of people. The application and the understanding that results from this examination and applying it to the real world is a different thing. But if you look at right wing media, CRT has become a code word for anything that goes against the concept of the status quo. The idea that everything is fine... which right wing media and those who follow it is likely to believe in since they have actively benefited from things being the status quo.

To promote the idea that maybe how laws and rules and policies have been shaped to support and prop up the wealth and success of whites and to actively suppress and beat down the same of minorities is anathema to the right, since this not only weakens their own supposed achievements but also leads to the means to strengthen the status those they find less than them. They consider everything a zero-sum game and when one who is not them stands to gain, they themselves believe they will lose.

So they lash out.

But it's not a zero-sum game. The success of one certain person is not necessarily at the expense of another. In fact the success of one person may bring on success to others by their actions. This is one of the fundamental concepts of capitalism. One person becomes rich and wealthy and starts a business that creates jobs and opportunities for many others.

Okay smoothbrain, prove it. Provide a law, rule or policy that does what you claim and prove it. I know of only one such policy but I very much doubt it's the one your room temperature IQ is thinking of. Because it goes against your cult's dogma to think like I do.



You are asking me about laws, rules or policies that claim what, exactly? The discrimination against minorities? Lol, fine where do I begin...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20the,of%20race%20or%20national%20origin.

https://www.aclu.org/other/drug-war-new-jim-crow

https://www.financialsamurai.com/mortgage-interest-rates-by-race/

https://norml.org/marijuana/fact-sheets/racial-disparity-in-marijuana-arrests/

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/impact-voter-suppression-communities-color

https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2020/06/racial_disparities_traffic_stops.php#.YmeaY_PMIiw

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/eliminating-black-white-wealth-gap-generational-challenge/

Lol. do you want more? You have yet to provide a single link to evidence of the question I asked you.

Laws, rules and policies that aren't in use anymore...

Trafic stops... That have been proven not to be because of racism but because some are prone to speeding...

Marijuana arrests... You mean to tell me that if someone smokes it in their home is less likelly to get arrested? wow!

You mean to tell me that banks charge you more in interest rates if you're poor? WOW!

Who destroyed Black Wall Street? Democrats
Who instituted Jim Crow? Democrats
Who was behind the KKK? Democrats
Who was the dear mentor of $hillary?
Who demanded the increase in the penalty for crack cocaine? Black activists.

I think you're barking at the wrong tree.

He who has eyes to see and ears to hear...

It has been proven by your self that you're a bad faith actor.
You can type whatever you want. But you still haven't provided any actual evidence to support anything you say. You also still haven't responded with any evidence based on the question I asked you.

Your response is just words typed by you. With no actual backing or support. And lol... you can cite dixie democrats but not the same party that exists today, just like the republican party from the past is not the same as it is today. But you can just use the label out of context to try to prove your point (without any actual links or citations to support your claims).

For example:

https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/blackrights/jimcrow

It is important to remember that the Democrats and Republicans of the late 1800s were very different parties from their current iterations. Republicans in the time of the Civil War and directly after were literally the party of Lincoln and anathema to the South. As white, Southern Democrats took over legislatures in the former Confederate states, they began passing more restrictive voter registration and electoral laws, as well as passing legislation to segregate blacks and whites.



I'm sorry but I held up my end of your question, you haven't held up yours. If you don't want to engage with me in good faith, just say so. But please stop or actually provide citations. If you provide a citation from a credible source, I'll read it.

Appeal to authority
So jimcrow, red linning are in effect now? Fuck off smooth brain.

Yes, the Democrats back then are sooooooooo different from the modern ones... Who was the now late dear mentor of Shillary Clinton?

You have nothing, at best you can show laws no longer in place and some disparities and cry "Muh structural raycismism!" Backing said nothing with some hyperlinks does nothing to convince anyone not a smoothbrain or in your cult.

I provided several links in the thread where that discussion has been taking place. Post deleted and not by me. But go check The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, many interesting videos and with sources. Now fuck off.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell