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Turning the corner on "woke"?

Started by DocJones, June 12, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

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oggsmash

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 22, 2022, 03:25:49 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 22, 2022, 03:17:58 PM
It seems at least one home owner in Portland had enough of antifa protests.  Seems a few "protesters" who were armed F'd around and found out, leaving 5 shot and one dead.

And nothing of value was lost on that day.

  Well, I would have preferred a higher fatality rate.   

jeff37923

Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I'd like to hear what DriveThruRPG and D&D BEYOND have to say about throwing away their money to con artists.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/drivethrurpg-supporting-blm/

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-beyond-supporting-blm/
"Meh."

Pat

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 22, 2022, 03:25:49 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 22, 2022, 03:17:58 PM
It seems at least one home owner in Portland had enough of antifa protests.  Seems a few "protesters" who were armed F'd around and found out, leaving 5 shot and one dead.

And nothing of value was lost on that day.
If it's Portland, they'll probably lose the trial.

3catcircus

Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I'd like to hear what DriveThruRPG and D&D BEYOND have to say about throwing away their money to con artists.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/drivethrurpg-supporting-blm/

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-beyond-supporting-blm/

Funny. When enworld posted a link to dtrpg donating to BLM, NAACP, and another org, I asked a very simple question of *which* BLM org then money was going and for denounced.  But, being correct and denounced seems to be the only way leftists know how to deal with those who speak the truth.

jeff37923

Quote from: 3catcircus on February 22, 2022, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I'd like to hear what DriveThruRPG and D&D BEYOND have to say about throwing away their money to con artists.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/drivethrurpg-supporting-blm/

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-beyond-supporting-blm/

Funny. When enworld posted a link to dtrpg donating to BLM, NAACP, and another org, I asked a very simple question of *which* BLM org then money was going and for denounced.  But, being correct and denounced seems to be the only way leftists know how to deal with those who speak the truth.

Not to be a Mistwell and defend ENWorld, but the NAACP and UNCF are both valid 501(c)3 charity organizations with long histories. Burn Loot Murder has been around for only 8 years and is a corporation without any charitable licensing - it is a political action group of a very questionable nature.

So if it involves giving money to BLM, fuck them in the ass with a hot curling iron.
"Meh."

Pat

#335
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 22, 2022, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I'd like to hear what DriveThruRPG and D&D BEYOND have to say about throwing away their money to con artists.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/drivethrurpg-supporting-blm/

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-beyond-supporting-blm/

Funny. When enworld posted a link to dtrpg donating to BLM, NAACP, and another org, I asked a very simple question of *which* BLM org then money was going and for denounced.  But, being correct and denounced seems to be the only way leftists know how to deal with those who speak the truth.

Not to be a Mistwell and defend ENWorld, but the NAACP and UNCF are both valid 501(c)3 charity organizations with long histories. Burn Loot Murder has been around for only 8 years and is a corporation without any charitable licensing - it is a political action group of a very questionable nature.

So if it involves giving money to BLM, fuck them in the ass with a hot curling iron.
BLM did receive 501(c)(3) status from the IRS in December 2020, and at that point no longer had to rely on the 501(c)(3) status of its sponsors, Thousands Currents and Tides. But it's been charged as out of compliance, didn't file tax reports in 2020, lists a false address, nobody knows who's the executive officer, legal action has been started by multiple states, and on and on and on. Here's a good quote:

Quote from: CharityWatch Executive Director, Laurie Styron[BLM is] like a giant ghost ship full of treasure drifting in the night with no captain, no discernible crew, and no clear direction.
https://www.charitywatch.org/about-charitywatch/in-the-news

jhkim

Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I don't specifically know anyone who has given to the BLM GNF. Most people I know who call themselves supporters of "Black Lives Matter" consider it to be a broader social movement - similar to other hashtag movements like #gamergate or #metoo. They don't follow Patrisse Cullors or the organization she founded.

It's my problem with hashtag movements that people sign on simply based on the sound of the name, without there being any clear platform or position.

Spinachcat

Wokeness will not end until the woke are ended.

jeff37923

Quote from: Pat on February 22, 2022, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on February 22, 2022, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2022, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Trond on February 22, 2022, 01:46:47 PM
Do you guys know anyone who made donations to BLM? I'm just wondering what they feel about it now that there have been some revelations about their use of the cash.

(I also have to say that I'm continually surprised at people who could not see this coming. The way they pushed their supporter Bernie Sanders off the stage and started ranting about white people, the way they argued for theft, etc.)

I'd like to hear what DriveThruRPG and D&D BEYOND have to say about throwing away their money to con artists.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/drivethrurpg-supporting-blm/

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-beyond-supporting-blm/

Funny. When enworld posted a link to dtrpg donating to BLM, NAACP, and another org, I asked a very simple question of *which* BLM org then money was going and for denounced.  But, being correct and denounced seems to be the only way leftists know how to deal with those who speak the truth.

Not to be a Mistwell and defend ENWorld, but the NAACP and UNCF are both valid 501(c)3 charity organizations with long histories. Burn Loot Murder has been around for only 8 years and is a corporation without any charitable licensing - it is a political action group of a very questionable nature.

So if it involves giving money to BLM, fuck them in the ass with a hot curling iron.
BLM did receive 501(c)(3) status from the IRS in December 2020, and at that point no longer had to rely on the 501(c)(3) status of its sponsors, Thousands Currents and Tides. But it's been charged as out of compliance, didn't file tax reports in 2020, lists a false address, nobody knows who's the executive officer, legal action has been started by multiple states, and on and on and on. Here's a good quote:

Quote from: CharityWatch Executive Director, Laurie Styron[BLM is] like a giant ghost ship full of treasure drifting in the night with no captain, no discernible crew, and no clear direction.
https://www.charitywatch.org/about-charitywatch/in-the-news

Thank you, I was unaware of that change in status.

But Holy Hell, the results from that change make BLM look like an even worse confidence scam.
"Meh."

Redwanderer

Quote from: Spinachcat on February 22, 2022, 10:23:09 PM
Wokeness will not end until the woke are ended.


Except the 92% are too damned scared to even speak up for real. They'll never cross the lines the 8% draws.

You see, everyone here wants the 8% gone, the woke out once and for all, only problem is you want SOMEONE ELSE to do it for you. Problem is, THEY want someone else to do it for them. So the 8% keep winning while the 92% sit on their damn arses talking tough- but not too tough.

Redwanderer

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 19, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: RandyB on February 19, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 19, 2022, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: Redwanderer on February 16, 2022, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 01, 2022, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Redwanderer on February 01, 2022, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 01, 2022, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: Trond on January 31, 2022, 10:54:10 AM
So The Anti Defamation League is now defining racism as being only by white people against people of color. But doesn't that exclude a lot of what happened during the holocaust?

https://www.adl.org/racism

  Well, I think the ADL feels its a bit early to simply say their true position, that they hate white people.  It also seems the ADL does not feel jews, regardless of skin color, are white.  So no, it does not exclude a thing I am sure.

If I were you people I'd abandon this line FAST. It's ban bait as surely as it rains in Ireland.

Few things will get you banned here:

Posting politics unrelated to gamming anywhere else but this part of the forum.

Spouting ACTUAL white supremacist spiels

Spouting ACTUAL anti-semitism

From what I've seen criticizing anything/anyone is valid and won't even earn you a warning.

This place is owned by an actual libertarian/conservative

The mods either share his political views or at least his love for free speech.

Saying that those ONGs/groups hate white people doesn't even register in the richter scale.

And you'll find a few non-white people here that do agree that seems to be the case. I for example.



And here 92% is why you keep losing to the 8% and why we're going to woke hell that'll make the hills of damnation look like Hawaii.

This line is about what? certain black and jewish groups bashing whites and calling for MASS MURDER of whites.

So what does this geekybugle guy go on about? No white supremist or anti jewish stuff.

Not "no supremist yammer of any kind", just white supremist and anti-jewish stuff in a line about jewish and black groups bashing whites!

"Saying that those ONGs/groups hate white people doesn't even register in the richter scale."

Only as long as it's safe tough talk.

I swear, the 92% will cringe and say it's sorry when theyre being led to the gulag. Here's a question- if anyone joined here and said he was a member of those groups would he be banned for being part of hate groups? Yea, and I'll find a pot of gold left on my doorstep by friendly leprechauns after riding a rainbow to Ireland.

Care to clarify WHO exactly is going to ban me from here for something like criticizing the ADL, ACLU, Burn Loot Murder, etc?

You don't understand. He's concerned. And we have to address his concerns. If that means changing our behavior here, well... he's concerned.

His concern has been dully noted, even if he doesn't always makes ANY sense.


All right, I'll try to make this simple as possible for you-

Only an idiot thinks we got to where saying orcs are evil is racist and you have games with those stupid x-cards in a few days. It happened step by step, boiling the poor frog, for DECADES. Bit by bit.

Things can get you put IN JAIL today or guilty of "hate speech"- in case you didn't notice this Geekybugle that seems a tad selective about what counts as "hate speech"- wasn't any of this years ago, like 1990.

Now read this carefully and slowly- you got TWO choices- either Pundit's 92% are hopeless absolute losers who keep losing to the 8% losers OR that whole woke thing is being run by people who AIN'T total losers. Nobody's talking about that last one so hopeless losers it is.

Either way everything's being moved more and more to the damned stinking left. Figure a big circle- some people standing as far right as they can, some to the left, and some in the middle. What the hell do you think happens if that circle moves left? Yeah, that's right- people standing in the middle now are right wingers and leftists are now in the middle, and anyone standing anywhere to the right before are now hate groups.

So the only way you can stay on the right side of history is by moving to the left yourself or- gasp goodness gwacious me- just by standing still suddenly you're a right wing jerk! The old Star Trek was pretty liberal in it's day, now you hear people whining about it being sexist whateverist. Guess what, everyone? The show itself ain't changed, but everything around it did by moving to the left.

In the Soviet Union did you know at first you could say things against it? Yeah, really! Then after some years if you stopped clapping when Stalin gave a speech or didn't say they should name the damned moon after the bastard off to the gulag with you.

If you still don't get it Geekybugle- it won't stop here. It's going to get so damn bad you'll call 2021 the good old days. It's going to get worse because the 92% is too scared to do anything and the 8% knows it. Using the wrong gender in some places when talking to someone is a crime. So do you think you're going to keep getting away with saying anything bad about left groups like ADL and BLM? The only reason you are is because they ain't gotten to this place yet. But the way anything to the right of the Hollywood is being censored sure as rain in Ireland it will happen. Pundit gets a call from any of these people saying knock it off or else what the hell do you think is going to happen?

You ask any geezer and he'll tell you they laughed about things getting anywhere near this bad. Well, they ain't laughing now.

Redwanderer

Quote from: oggsmash on February 17, 2022, 07:12:58 PM
  Seems the extremely woke, Trump Hating community outreach head over at Facebook got caught on video meeting up with a 13 year old boy at a hotel room for sex.  That is going to be uncomfortable to explain.


Won't matter. People were finally getting word of kiddie sex in Hollywood- calling Epstein Island- but they cooked up that metoo crap and sure as hell people forgot about it. The 92% still make the bastard diddlers rich by paying for cable and seeing movies. Except for suing the Boy Scouts and getting money nobody is exactly complaining about how that happened by letting homos in as scout masters, think that wasn't planned?

Over in the UK nobody wanted to talk about little girls being diddled by migrant "grooming gangs" (damned child molesters). It was blamed on "asians" because the media and stinking authorities know when you say asian people think japanese, chinese, korean, something like that, they ain't thinking muslims from Pakistan. Hell one guy who did try to get attention to it ended up in jail!

So why the hell would this hurt the woke?

oggsmash

Quote from: Redwanderer on February 28, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 17, 2022, 07:12:58 PM
  Seems the extremely woke, Trump Hating community outreach head over at Facebook got caught on video meeting up with a 13 year old boy at a hotel room for sex.  That is going to be uncomfortable to explain.


Won't matter. People were finally getting word of kiddie sex in Hollywood- calling Epstein Island- but they cooked up that metoo crap and sure as hell people forgot about it. The 92% still make the bastard diddlers rich by paying for cable and seeing movies. Except for suing the Boy Scouts and getting money nobody is exactly complaining about how that happened by letting homos in as scout masters, think that wasn't planned?

Over in the UK nobody wanted to talk about little girls being diddled by migrant "grooming gangs" (damned child molesters). It was blamed on "asians" because the media and stinking authorities know when you say asian people think japanese, chinese, korean, something like that, they ain't thinking muslims from Pakistan. Hell one guy who did try to get attention to it ended up in jail!

So why the hell would this hurt the woke?

  I did not say it would.  I said the guy was going to have a hard time explaining that video.   

Redwanderer

Quote from: DocJones on February 17, 2022, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: Redwanderer on February 16, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
I'll try to keep this as simple as possible for anyone who still doesn't get it yet. What the hell is WRONG with the 92%!?
You are way off on your figures.  It's actually 87.35%.  And 57.48% of the 87.35% will not put up with the bullshit of the 12.65%. 
That makes 50.20% who are mad as hell and are not going to take it any more. 
Which way way higher than the 3% some far right groups claim it took to win the American Revolutionary war.


1- I'm going by Pundit's videos. Because why not. He's supposed to be running this place.

2- Sure, sure, yeah sure your 50.20 is mad as hell and won't take it any more. Sure. Hey there's that rainbow! Been hearing that for years. Hey guess what? Last year they BANNED BOOKS BY DR. SUESS and saying orcs are evil is racist! Groups like the ADL saying only whites can be racist and BLM saying kill whitey out in the open AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT. Your 50.25% been taking it over and over and still are.

In places like California you might as well not bother voting because if it goes the wrong way they "find" more votes until it goes the way the left wants. Notice how now Biden got in those Russians were nowhere around in 2016? If Trump got in again what do you think the media- owned by the woke- would be crying on about?

And even if we go by your figures the mad as hell types still really outnumber the 12.65% losers but are still losing more and more to them. People who say anything else are like that king from "Erik the Viking" when his island was sinking.

oggsmash

Quote from: Redwanderer on February 28, 2022, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 17, 2022, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: Redwanderer on February 16, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
I'll try to keep this as simple as possible for anyone who still doesn't get it yet. What the hell is WRONG with the 92%!?
You are way off on your figures.  It's actually 87.35%.  And 57.48% of the 87.35% will not put up with the bullshit of the 12.65%. 
That makes 50.20% who are mad as hell and are not going to take it any more. 
Which way way higher than the 3% some far right groups claim it took to win the American Revolutionary war.


1- I'm going by Pundit's videos. Because why not. He's supposed to be running this place.

2- Sure, sure, yeah sure your 50.20 is mad as hell and won't take it any more. Sure. Hey there's that rainbow! Been hearing that for years. Hey guess what? Last year they BANNED BOOKS BY DR. SUESS and saying orcs are evil is racist! Groups like the ADL saying only whites can be racist and BLM saying kill whitey out in the open AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT. Your 50.25% been taking it over and over and still are.

In places like California you might as well not bother voting because if it goes the wrong way they "find" more votes until it goes the way the left wants. Notice how now Biden got in those Russians were nowhere around in 2016? If Trump got in again what do you think the media- owned by the woke- would be crying on about?

And even if we go by your figures the mad as hell types still really outnumber the 12.65% losers but are still losing more and more to them. People who say anything else are like that king from "Erik the Viking" when his island was sinking.

  I think they are waiting to vote their way out of it.  They might be waiting a long time on that one.  I would say that is about as useful as talking their way out of it, ie speaking up.  It is never a retreat with the always left crowd.  Two steps forward, and every now and then they have to take one step back before they start again.