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Turning the corner on "woke"?

Started by DocJones, June 12, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim on November 30, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on November 30, 2021, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: Wrath of God on November 29, 2021, 05:07:29 PM
From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

But it wasn't that that were out for him for being a pedo - the current crop of leftists support it so long as it's lumped into the current "LGBT$_&* abbreviation salad" and given a cutesy moniker.

Kevin Spacey was accused of same-sex pedophilia, and it seems to me he was cancelled just as thoroughly as straight pedophiles.

The old guard at Hollywood has for over a century covered up lots of scandals including pedophilia - with figures like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and their many predecessors. However, I don't see the current crop of leftists supporting this for same-sex cases like Spacey. Those who I know have been enthusiastic in the movement against Spacey just as much as figures like Weinstein and Epstein.

Where then is or was the rage against Spacey? He "came out" as gay and the news shifted to how brave he was.

As for leftists wanting to normalize pedophilia this is nothing new, look up the german pedo experiment, much of what passes for sexual "education/theory" this days was derived from a pedo and a guy that interviwed a pedo to theorize children's sexuality the latter and to theorize gender identity the first.

AND it's not like it's done in some obscure corner either, plenty of leftist publications have done the "Sympathetic pedo" articles.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: jhkim on November 30, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
Kevin Spacey was accused of same-sex pedophilia, and it seems to me he was cancelled just as thoroughly as straight pedophiles.

The old guard at Hollywood has for over a century covered up lots of scandals including pedophilia - with figures like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and their many predecessors. However, I don't see the current crop of leftists supporting this for same-sex cases like Spacey. Those who I know have been enthusiastic in the movement against Spacey just as much as figures like Weinstein and Epstein.

Where then is or was the rage against Spacey? He "came out" as gay and the news shifted to how brave he was.

Spacey came out on the same day as the accusations (Oct 29, 2017). After this, his Gore Vidal biopic with Netflix was cancelled, and he was dropped from House of Cards and all other Netflix projects. His already-shot role in "All the Money in the World" was cut and re-shot with Christopher Plummer in his former role. The International Academy of Television Arts and Sciences rescinded his International Emmy Founders Award. His publicist Staci Wolfe and talent agency Creative Artists Agency dropped him. His UK-based non-profit the Kevin Spacey Foundation was closed. Here's a timeline:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rise-fall-kevin-spacey-timeline-sexual-assault-allegations/story?id=63420983

As far as I can see, his only project in the 4 years since the scandal has been a small part in an Italian movie. From what I've seen, it's fair to say that he was cancelled. If you have any links that contradicts this, I'd be interested.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim on December 07, 2021, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: jhkim on November 30, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
Kevin Spacey was accused of same-sex pedophilia, and it seems to me he was cancelled just as thoroughly as straight pedophiles.

The old guard at Hollywood has for over a century covered up lots of scandals including pedophilia - with figures like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and their many predecessors. However, I don't see the current crop of leftists supporting this for same-sex cases like Spacey. Those who I know have been enthusiastic in the movement against Spacey just as much as figures like Weinstein and Epstein.

Where then is or was the rage against Spacey? He "came out" as gay and the news shifted to how brave he was.

Spacey came out on the same day as the accusations (Oct 29, 2017). After this, his Gore Vidal biopic with Netflix was cancelled, and he was dropped from House of Cards and all other Netflix projects. His already-shot role in "All the Money in the World" was cut and re-shot with Christopher Plummer in his former role. The International Academy of Television Arts and Sciences rescinded his International Emmy Founders Award. His publicist Staci Wolfe and talent agency Creative Artists Agency dropped him. His UK-based non-profit the Kevin Spacey Foundation was closed. Here's a timeline:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rise-fall-kevin-spacey-timeline-sexual-assault-allegations/story?id=63420983

As far as I can see, his only project in the 4 years since the scandal has been a small part in an Italian movie. From what I've seen, it's fair to say that he was cancelled. If you have any links that contradicts this, I'd be interested.

So he got the same treatment as those who got metooed for making a deal with grown ass women for sex in exchange of fame?

After raping minors? Where are the calls to put him in prison? Because I sure as fuck saw lots of that for the metoo movement.

And you don't adress the rest of my post, maybe because you know you can't argue against facts?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Trond

Not sure where else to put this. University harassment training:


Ghostmaker

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: jhkim on December 07, 2021, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: jhkim on November 30, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
Kevin Spacey was accused of same-sex pedophilia, and it seems to me he was cancelled just as thoroughly as straight pedophiles.

The old guard at Hollywood has for over a century covered up lots of scandals including pedophilia - with figures like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and their many predecessors. However, I don't see the current crop of leftists supporting this for same-sex cases like Spacey. Those who I know have been enthusiastic in the movement against Spacey just as much as figures like Weinstein and Epstein.

Where then is or was the rage against Spacey? He "came out" as gay and the news shifted to how brave he was.

Spacey came out on the same day as the accusations (Oct 29, 2017). After this, his Gore Vidal biopic with Netflix was cancelled, and he was dropped from House of Cards and all other Netflix projects. His already-shot role in "All the Money in the World" was cut and re-shot with Christopher Plummer in his former role. The International Academy of Television Arts and Sciences rescinded his International Emmy Founders Award. His publicist Staci Wolfe and talent agency Creative Artists Agency dropped him. His UK-based non-profit the Kevin Spacey Foundation was closed. Here's a timeline:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rise-fall-kevin-spacey-timeline-sexual-assault-allegations/story?id=63420983

As far as I can see, his only project in the 4 years since the scandal has been a small part in an Italian movie. From what I've seen, it's fair to say that he was cancelled. If you have any links that contradicts this, I'd be interested.

So he got the same treatment as those who got metooed for making a deal with grown ass women for sex in exchange of fame?

After raping minors? Where are the calls to put him in prison? Because I sure as fuck saw lots of that for the metoo movement.

And you don't adress the rest of my post, maybe because you know you can't argue against facts?
Tsk, Geeky, the problem isn't that Spacey was raping minors. Hollyweird has no problem with that.

The problem was that he got caught. So they HAD to jettison him.

jhkim

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 08, 2021, 08:16:21 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: jhkim on December 07, 2021, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 07, 2021, 05:23:17 PM
Where then is or was the rage against Spacey? He "came out" as gay and the news shifted to how brave he was.

Spacey came out on the same day as the accusations (Oct 29, 2017). After this, his Gore Vidal biopic with Netflix was cancelled, and he was dropped from House of Cards and all other Netflix projects. His already-shot role in "All the Money in the World" was cut and re-shot with Christopher Plummer in his former role. The International Academy of Television Arts and Sciences rescinded his International Emmy Founders Award. His publicist Staci Wolfe and talent agency Creative Artists Agency dropped him. His UK-based non-profit the Kevin Spacey Foundation was closed. Here's a timeline:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rise-fall-kevin-spacey-timeline-sexual-assault-allegations/story?id=63420983

As far as I can see, his only project in the 4 years since the scandal has been a small part in an Italian movie. From what I've seen, it's fair to say that he was cancelled. If you have any links that contradicts this, I'd be interested.

So he got the same treatment as those who got metooed for making a deal with grown ass women for sex in exchange of fame?

After raping minors? Where are the calls to put him in prison? Because I sure as fuck saw lots of that for the metoo movement.

And you don't adress the rest of my post, maybe because you know you can't argue against facts?
Tsk, Geeky, the problem isn't that Spacey was raping minors. Hollyweird has no problem with that.

The problem was that he got caught. So they HAD to jettison him.

But according to GeekyBugle, they didn't jettison him. GeekyBugle claims that after he came out as gay, they praised him for how brave he was. From what I see, though, he was jettisoned.

As for criminal charges, Spacey did face criminal charges as documented on the timeline I linked. However, after holes appeared in the accuser's story, the charges were dropped. But that's the job of the legal system, not a function of public sentiment. If he was investigated and not put away, then maybe he wasn't guilty. I don't claim either way - but him not being in jail isn't a function of public sentiment being accepting of pedophilia.

Ghostmaker

*sad trombones*

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/chicago-jury-reaches-verdict-in-jussie-smollett-for-alleged-fake-hate-crime/

Jussie Smollett gets convicted on five out of six counts of spinning his bullshit hate crime hoax to the CPD. Not sure how he skated on count 6, but oh well.

LOL.

3catcircus

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 10, 2021, 08:12:06 AM
*sad trombones*

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/chicago-jury-reaches-verdict-in-jussie-smollett-for-alleged-fake-hate-crime/

Jussie Smollett gets convicted on five out of six counts of spinning his bullshit hate crime hoax to the CPD. Not sure how he skated on count 6, but oh well.

LOL.

"#justiceforjussie!!!"

Klytus

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 10, 2021, 08:12:06 AM
*sad trombones*

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/chicago-jury-reaches-verdict-in-jussie-smollett-for-alleged-fake-hate-crime/

Jussie Smollett gets convicted on five out of six counts of spinning his bullshit hate crime hoax to the CPD. Not sure how he skated on count 6, but oh well.

LOL.

Count 6 was technically true, since he was a victim of battery, just it was battery he both requested and paid for.
Klytus, I'm bored. What plaything can you offer me today?

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: kreegan on December 10, 2021, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 10, 2021, 08:12:06 AM
*sad trombones*

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/chicago-jury-reaches-verdict-in-jussie-smollett-for-alleged-fake-hate-crime/

Jussie Smollett gets convicted on five out of six counts of spinning his bullshit hate crime hoax to the CPD. Not sure how he skated on count 6, but oh well.

LOL.

Count 6 was technically true, since he was a victim of battery, just it was battery he both requested and paid for.
Huh. That... makes sense. And it's rather amusing.

Wntrlnd


3catcircus

Quote from: kreegan on December 10, 2021, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 10, 2021, 08:12:06 AM
*sad trombones*

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/chicago-jury-reaches-verdict-in-jussie-smollett-for-alleged-fake-hate-crime/

Jussie Smollett gets convicted on five out of six counts of spinning his bullshit hate crime hoax to the CPD. Not sure how he skated on count 6, but oh well.

LOL.

Count 6 was technically true, since he was a victim of battery, just it was battery he both requested and paid for.

I hear there are women who will get dressed up in leather costumes and get paid to do that to a guy.  There isn't the equivalent for gay men?  Or have we all been incorrectly led to believe that that sort of thing is common amongst the gay community?  He didn't have to hire someone from so far away to do that when there are probably plenty of local gen'lmen who could do it just as well...

Willmark

Figured here was as good a place as any for this: https://youtu.be/ZfrjsQM2WAU

The second to last one was the best IMO. Also crazy accurate this is.

Trond

Also a fairly accurate representation of a woke takeover  ;D


FelixGamingX1

Quote from: Trond on December 21, 2021, 11:57:33 PM
Also a fairly accurate representation of a woke takeover  ;D



Couldn't be any more accurate. Real pity to see the hobby caving in in these past 5 years or so. Just hope all companies going woke really go broke when this trend gets old.
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