Turning the corner on "woke"?

[Trond]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

Even Bill Maher has realized that wokeness is a serious problem on the left. I would take it a bit further; if improving race relations is one of your priorities going forward I'd say that voting Democrat is the worst thing you could do. They have shown that they are 100% toxic in that regard, primarily thanks to wokeness.

[Eirikrautha]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

Even Bill Maher has realized that wokeness is a serious problem on the left. I would take it a bit further; if improving race relations is one of your priorities going forward I'd say that voting Democrat is the worst thing you could do. They have shown that they are 100% toxic in that regard, primarily thanks to wokeness.

If improving race relations was his goal, he wouldn't be using racial slurs himself...

[3catcircus]

Just to put things in perspective regarding the ridiculousness of the woke, here's a news headline about an actor who demands you call him a "they":

"Woman choked by Ezra Miller at Iceland bar says she thought they were 'playing' after saying they wanted to fight: Flash star also harassed woman in Germany after she asked them not smoke in her apartment"

Who was playing? Who wanted to fight? Who was asked not to smoke?  Both Ezra Miller and the other woman?  Just Ezra Miller? Or some additional 3rd party?

[Trond]

Just to put things in perspective regarding the ridiculousness of the woke, here's a news headline about an actor who demands you call him a "they":

"Woman choked by Ezra Miller at Iceland bar says she thought they were 'playing' after saying they wanted to fight: Flash star also harassed woman in Germany after she asked them not smoke in her apartment"

Who was playing? Who wanted to fight? Who was asked not to smoke?  Both Ezra Miller and the other woman?  Just Ezra Miller? Or some additional 3rd party?

You won the thread. Well done.

[Ghostmaker]

So someone blew up the 'Georgia Guidestones'.

Inscribed on the guidestones was this, in multiple languages:

"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature; Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity; Unite humanity with a living new language; Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason; Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts; Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court; Avoid petty laws and useless officials; Balance personal rights with social duties; Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite; Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature."

Typical woo-woo with a nice dollop of Malthusian thinking (reduce the world population under 500 million? Ye gods...).

What's interesting is that they bulldozed the site with surprising haste. I grant that it may have been structurally unsound, but come on: this wasn't in the middle of Atlanta's Centennial Park. It was in a field out in the middle of nowhere. Cordon it off.

There's been some interesting speculation that the demolition wasn't done with a conventional explosive charge (commercial, military, or homebrew) but with a rocket. Which should fill everyone with good cheer, eh? Someone's wandering around Georgia with a rocket launcher. Joy.

[Wntrlnd]

My bet is Kandiss Taylor blew them up.

Or someone affiliated with her.


No loss either way, as the stones where, at least according to John Oliver, commisioned by a Dr. Herbert Kersten, a man who advocated for sterilization of those with low IQ and supported the Klan.

[Trond]

My bet is Kandiss Taylor blew them up.

Or someone affiliated with her.


No loss either way, as the stones where, at least according to John Oliver, commisioned by a Dr. Herbert Kersten, a man who advocated for sterilization of those with low IQ and supported the Klan.

But the Klan was woke, because they had an 'x' in their name.

[Trond]

Dear lord, notice rampant narcissism on display here (a self-obsessed "non binary" teacher decides to resign and make a drag queen spectacle of it in a Christian chapel):
https://archive.ph/GVDEO

[blackstone]

Thruout history, dictators and tyrants  have created goblins to gin up fear in order to seize absolute power.

Jews, socialists, fasicsts, communists, 'bolsheviks' ad infinitum,  have been used to make people afraid enough to let depots take total power.

It never goes well, the cure they offer is worse than what they made people afraid of.

Now we have a radical right Christian fundamentalist big biz owned movement that's building up 'the woke' as the ultimate evil.

Yeah, good times a'comin'.....

From what I've seen, it the woke businesses like Disney that is pushing an agenda of grooming children through Marvel Comics, Lucusfilm (Star Wars), etc. to their overtly woke bullshit.

and it is bullshit.

Because most people don't about your goddamn sexuality, or sexual preference, or what stupid made up pronouns you want to force down our throats.

most people don't give a shit because it's IRRELEVANT.

It's stupid. FFS, you have training videos where people start out saying "Hi! I'm blablabla. My pronouns are he/him. And I'm blablabla. My pronouns are she/her" WTF! You sound like your in preschool.

Just say your name and move the fuck on. Nobody cares what pronouns you want to be called by.

And I'm a parent who has a kid (they're 21) who says they're bi and says they're "gender fluid".

You know what I said? "you need to grow a thick skin when it comes to this in the real world. get used to people not calling whatever pronoun you want them to use, because they don't have to. You're just gonna have to learn to deal with it."

But Because they're forcing it, the woke businesses and their cult followers are failing. Miserably.

Woke movies, TV shows, comics are not bringing people to the TV or theater.

Top Gun: Maverick and the new Rippaverse https://rippaverse.com/ of comics are proof of that.

Let's hope we do turn the corner on this insanity.

[Reckall]

Dear lord, notice rampant narcissism on display here (a self-obsessed "non binary" teacher decides to resign and make a drag queen spectacle of it in a Christian chapel):
https://archive.ph/GVDEO

I think that the golden nugget on that site is this one:

https://thepostmillennial.com/new-york-health-commissioner-demands-who-rename-racist-monkeypox

A "anti-racist" sees "monkeypox" and reads "POC". OK.

[Trond]

Dear lord, notice rampant narcissism on display here (a self-obsessed "non binary" teacher decides to resign and make a drag queen spectacle of it in a Christian chapel):
https://archive.ph/GVDEO

I think that the golden nugget on that site is this one:

https://thepostmillennial.com/new-york-health-commissioner-demands-who-rename-racist-monkeypox

A "anti-racist" sees "monkeypox" and reads "POC". OK.

The Commissioner of the New York City Department of Health & Mental Hygiene is a mental case. Who'd have thunk? 😄

Edit: but yeah I have seen several cases of "monkey=black people, because I'm so anti-racist" coming from the woke left. It's truly hilarious to see. In a roundabout way it reminds me of the leftist dog walker woman who got pissed off at a black guy who filmed her without a leash in the dog park, so she called the cops on him, probably because she thinks that the police always are violent towards black people. The actual thought process seems to be "I'm racist so I guess everyone is!"

[Reckall]

Dear lord, notice rampant narcissism on display here (a self-obsessed "non binary" teacher decides to resign and make a drag queen spectacle of it in a Christian chapel):
https://archive.ph/GVDEO

I think that the golden nugget on that site is this one:

https://thepostmillennial.com/new-york-health-commissioner-demands-who-rename-racist-monkeypox

A "anti-racist" sees "monkeypox" and reads "POC". OK.

The Commissioner of the New York City Department of Health & Mental Hygiene is a mental case. Who'd have thunk? 😄

Edit: but yeah I have seen several cases of "monkey=black people, because I'm so anti-racist" coming from the woke left.

One needs only to see true racists waving inflatable bananas against black players, in soccer and other sports, to understand who sees POC as monkeys. I guess that these leftist just don't see.

[Trond]

One needs only to see true racists waving inflatable bananas against black players, in soccer and other sports, to understand who sees POC as monkeys. I guess that these leftist just don't see.

Huh? That's a thing?

[Reckall]

One needs only to see true racists waving inflatable bananas against black players, in soccer and other sports, to understand who sees POC as monkeys. I guess that these leftist just don't see.

Huh? That's a thing?

Here in Europe, sadly, yes. It is a common gesture in Italy, UK, Spain and the Netherlands but it happens a bit everywhere. Inflatable bananas themselves weren't racist back in the day, only a fun prop to wave on the stands. Today, the ones waving (and throwing) these bananas (including real ones) target black players. They also usually make the Nazi salute, chant racist hymns, put out pro-Mussolini banners and so on. It is safe to say that these guys are not from the left.

[Visitor Q]

Dear lord, notice rampant narcissism on display here (a self-obsessed "non binary" teacher decides to resign and make a drag queen spectacle of it in a Christian chapel):
https://archive.ph/GVDEO

I think that the golden nugget on that site is this one:

https://thepostmillennial.com/new-york-health-commissioner-demands-who-rename-racist-monkeypox

A "anti-racist" sees "monkeypox" and reads "POC". OK.

The Commissioner of the New York City Department of Health & Mental Hygiene is a mental case. Who'd have thunk? 😄

Edit: but yeah I have seen several cases of "monkey=black people, because I'm so anti-racist" coming from the woke left. It's truly hilarious to see. In a roundabout way it reminds me of the leftist dog walker woman who got pissed off at a black guy who filmed her without a leash in the dog park, so she called the cops on him, probably because she thinks that the police always are violent towards black people. The actual thought process seems to be "I'm racist so I guess everyone is!"

Worth bearing in mind that there are many left wing commentators who openly admit they are racist, have inherent predjuices they can't (won't?) change etc. It falls under the guise of confessing their "privilege", unconscious bias admitting they are problematic.

But you are right the flaw in their thinking is assuming this applies to everyone. In fact if they ditched that aspect of their world view, but kept the acknowledgment they were personally racist and took personal personal responsibility for changing that then actual progress could be made.