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Turning the corner on "woke"?

Started by DocJones, June 12, 2021, 02:40:00 PM

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yancy

Quote from: fixable on May 14, 2022, 03:45:39 AM
No one who is pro-choice cares about race.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day :)

Oh, by the way?

HEY HEY, HO HO, ROE V. WADE HAS GOT TO GO

Man, I can't wait!!!!
Quote from: Rhedynif you are against this, I assume you are racist.

Rob Necronomicon

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wmarshal

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 14, 2022, 07:26:17 AM
Interesting vid from GJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWo-xM1PEQ0
Well, GJ is an idiot if he doesn't think there are secular arguments for being pro-life. Nat Hentoff often made such arguments. That a congruence can be found with religious arguments for being pro-life doesn't negate the secular arguments. It just means they are in agreement.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/opinion/20170110_Commentary__Nat_Hentoff__staunch_liberal_and_anti-abortion.html?outputType=amp

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: wmarshal on May 14, 2022, 07:42:27 AM
Well, GJ is an idiot if he doesn't think there are secular arguments for being pro-life.

I can't see that article by the way it's blocked.

That said I've not seen any 'secular arguments' that would convince me either. Except in the case of a late term abortion, then you're getting into dubious territory.

Although, in my view, a woman's life is more important than an unborn child's. So if there is a 'significant' risk to the mother's health then that might be a cause for later term abortion.



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Trond

#514
I believe we just might be turning a corner right now, at least (hopefully) in entertainment. This is because of shit hitting the fan in Disney and Netflix. Netflix has told employees who object to something in their entertainment to get lost, and most commenters believe it's aimed at the woke workers of the company.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Trond on May 14, 2022, 09:21:43 AM
I believe we just might be turning a corner right now, at least (hopefully) in entertainment. This is because of shit hitting the fan in Disney and Netflix. Netflix has told employees who object to something in their entertainment to get lost, and most commenters believe it's aimed at the woke workers of the company.

I wish that were true... But all the shite that's being released on Netflix, Amazon, and in movies are now all specially curated towards the woke side of things. People speculated that that woke stuff was killing Netflix. After snooping around it has nothing to do with it or so it seems.

I think it's going to get far worse before it's going to get any better (IMO).



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GhostNinja

Not sure you you guys have seen this article Netflix Gives Progressive Culture Warriors a Wake-Up Call

Basically Netflix has told their Woke workers (the minority) if you don't like our content you are free to quit.   Looks like people are finally getting tired of their crap.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/netflix-gives-progressive-culture-warriors-a-wake-up-call/

Ghostninja

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: GhostNinja on May 14, 2022, 11:06:48 AM
Not sure you you guys have seen this article Netflix Gives Progressive Culture Warriors a Wake-Up Call

Basically Netflix has told their Woke workers (the minority) if you don't like our content you are free to quit.   Looks like people are finally getting tired of their crap.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/netflix-gives-progressive-culture-warriors-a-wake-up-call/

Music to my ears.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: fixable on May 14, 2022, 03:45:39 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on May 13, 2022, 06:02:27 PM
The idea that the pro-life movement is essentially racist is one of the stupidest ideas the pro-choice crowd clings to. It's a sign that they're grasping at straw, and trying to land a low blow. A large percentage of Planned Parenthood clinics are located in minority neighborhoods, and minority women abort their children at higher rate than white women. Limitations on abortion will result in a greater increase in minority children being born than the increase in white children. The last thing a white supremacist would want is to shut down the abortion clinics which are aborting a greater percentage of minority children than white children. The pro-choicers ought to know this, and probably do. But screaming "racist" is both a dopamine hit, and like hitting the "easy" button when trying to justify one's position. That NPR article is just trying to rile up a mob mentality, and feel good about themselves. Many used to have the Roe decision as a blanket ethical justification for their position, but now that Roe is being removed they struggling to think deeper on the topic so screaming "racist!" becomes an easy crutch to latch on to. I bet pro-choice advocates outside of the US are more comfortable with having to argue for their position because they've had to make the argument, and not just rely on a court ruling.
This isn't about numbers of babies by 'race'. No one on the left cares about how many 'white' babies vs. how many 'non-white' babies exist. No one on the left frames this in that manner. It's just right wingers who care about the color and race of babies.

This is about fundamental rights of an individual to be able to make choices about their own body. Those who are framing this as racist are missing the point. This isn't about race, this is about being able to have autonomy over one's own body. To have the right to make choices for themselves and their health and well being.

No one who is pro-choice cares about race. We care about the right of a person to decide what is best for themselves and make health decisions without interference from the government.

Fopund the ONE place where a difference in outcome isn't racism for the progressives!

Of course he's lying, they wanted to carve an exception in some state for black women and black women only. So they do care about not being able to keep murdering black babies.

And I have heard many arguments from leftard pundits and politicians about how overturning RvW would hurt black women the most.

Planned Parenthood (a missnomer if you ever saw one) WAS created with the explicit purpose of having a black genocide, Margaret Sanger said as much. And since the ones in favor of it were the founders of the KKK, the ones against the civil rights act, and their last KNOWN member of the KKK in the federal legislature just passed away (may he rot in hell) a few years back, while still a legislator, and got great praise from the evil witch herself...

Allow me to press X to doubt ANY claims to the contrary.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 14, 2022, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: Trond on May 14, 2022, 09:21:43 AM
I believe we just might be turning a corner right now, at least (hopefully) in entertainment. This is because of shit hitting the fan in Disney and Netflix. Netflix has told employees who object to something in their entertainment to get lost, and most commenters believe it's aimed at the woke workers of the company.

I wish that were true... But all the shite that's being released on Netflix, Amazon, and in movies are now all specially curated towards the woke side of things. People speculated that that woke stuff was killing Netflix. After snooping around it has nothing to do with it or so it seems.

I think it's going to get far worse before it's going to get any better (IMO).

You need to remember the time lapse between green lighting a movie/show and it airing. Even if Trond was right (he's not) you would still get lots of woke shit, and probably even more woke than we have ever seen, just because they are hardly going to cann a few hundred millions worth of product when they already have it ready to air.

At least until their profits make them see the light, which will take some time.

But like I said before, we're not turning the corner, but now we can at least SEE the damn corner.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 14, 2022, 11:29:56 AM
At least until their profits make them see the light, which will take some time.

But like I said before, we're not turning the corner, but now we can at least SEE the damn corner.

I hope so...

Actually, that's a good point. I did forget about the time-lapse when a show starts. On a positive note, I was delighted to see Bat Wammon got the axe. Haw haw haw..
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: wmarshal on May 14, 2022, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 14, 2022, 07:26:17 AM
Interesting vid from GJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWo-xM1PEQ0
Well, GJ is an idiot if he doesn't think there are secular arguments for being pro-life. Nat Hentoff often made such arguments. That a congruence can be found with religious arguments for being pro-life doesn't negate the secular arguments. It just means they are in agreement.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/opinion/20170110_Commentary__Nat_Hentoff__staunch_liberal_and_anti-abortion.html?outputType=amp

I believe Christopher Hitchens also made some strong arguments for the pro-life side, I would Loooooooooooove to see Grim Jim try and swallow that pill. I bet he would claim HE's smarter than the guy.

Well he's not. You listen to that guy and he WILL make you question a lot of stuff. I know he made do so.

And I still agree with him on the organized part of religion, once it becomes a bureaucracy it lives to grow and perpetuate itself and stops doing more good than bad.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 14, 2022, 11:32:45 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 14, 2022, 11:29:56 AM
At least until their profits make them see the light, which will take some time.

But like I said before, we're not turning the corner, but now we can at least SEE the damn corner.

I hope so...

Actually, that's a good point. I did forget about the time-lapse when a show starts. On a positive note, I was delighted to see Bat Wammon got the axe. Haw haw haw..

The CW IS finally cutting the dead weight, not much use if they don't also kick out the termites... But hey, Batwahmen and Naomi got the axe, that's a win in my book.

Add to it the ammount of woketard tears being collected over that and then you have two wins!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

DocJones

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 14, 2022, 08:55:36 AM
That said I've not seen any 'secular arguments' that would convince me either.
Well there are secular arguments that I find convincing...
Pro-Life and Libertarian
Why All Libertarians Should Be Pro-Life

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 14, 2022, 11:34:59 AM
I believe Christopher Hitchens also made some strong arguments for the pro-life side, I would Loooooooooooove to see Grim Jim try and swallow that pill. I bet he would claim HE's smarter than the guy.

Well he's not. You listen to that guy and he WILL make you question a lot of stuff. I know he made do so.

Hitchens was a freakin' genius and one of my all-time heroes. He destroys religion and is no fan of Islam. He's was definitely far smarter than most in the skeptical movement too. But I was never particularly moved by his opinions on abortion or the justification for invading (Iraq the second time).

Even the smartest people on the planet can be wrong. Except for Dr. Steven Novella I've not heard him be wrong about anything so far. :)


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