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Author Topic: Turning the corner on "woke"?  (Read 16120 times)

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #210 on: November 29, 2021, 05:07:29 PM »
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Feel free to trawl through the usual leftist echo chambers and review how they talk about Joseph Rosenbaum.

Or contemplate how they continue to idolize Roman Polanski.

From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #211 on: November 29, 2021, 07:59:58 PM »
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Feel free to trawl through the usual leftist echo chambers and review how they talk about Joseph Rosenbaum.

Or contemplate how they continue to idolize Roman Polanski.

From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

While not condoning him, I think that having his wife and unborn kid stabulated by a bunch of cultist psychos probably helped along Polanski's baser urges, which seems a bit different than the  "Wut? Wut's the problem?!?!" way in which the current crop of pedos are trying to normalize criminally deviant behavior.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #212 on: November 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM »
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Feel free to trawl through the usual leftist echo chambers and review how they talk about Joseph Rosenbaum.

Or contemplate how they continue to idolize Roman Polanski.

From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

While not condoning him, I think that having his wife and unborn kid stabulated by a bunch of cultist psychos probably helped along Polanski's baser urges, which seems a bit different than the  "Wut? Wut's the problem?!?!" way in which the current crop of pedos are trying to normalize criminally deviant behavior.
That was a theory I had as well, actually.

Doesn't excuse it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he turned into a nihilist of sorts after Sharon Tate's death. Reading Bugliosi's Helter Skelter, it's strongly indicated that Tate was having a stabilizing effect on his personality, slowly shifting him away from the 'Hollywood' lifestyle into something a little more presentable. To have that yanked away so savagely would've been disastrous.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #213 on: November 30, 2021, 01:30:58 PM »
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Feel free to trawl through the usual leftist echo chambers and review how they talk about Joseph Rosenbaum.

Or contemplate how they continue to idolize Roman Polanski.

From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

Yes, you’ll definitely find leftists who are strongly opposed to any child molestation etc. Also check out several videos by Shoe0nhead (a Bernie supporter) for instance.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #214 on: November 30, 2021, 02:07:08 PM »
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Feel free to trawl through the usual leftist echo chambers and review how they talk about Joseph Rosenbaum.

Or contemplate how they continue to idolize Roman Polanski.

From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

But it wasn't that that were out for him for being a pedo - the current crop of leftists support it so long as it's lumped into the current "LGBT$_&* abbreviation salad" and given a cutesy moniker.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #215 on: November 30, 2021, 02:30:25 PM »
From my experience Woke SJW commies were for Polanski blood. It was older progressive liberals/moderate socialdemocrates with highly elitist streat that were defending him.

But it wasn't that that were out for him for being a pedo - the current crop of leftists support it so long as it's lumped into the current "LGBT$_&* abbreviation salad" and given a cutesy moniker.

Kevin Spacey was accused of same-sex pedophilia, and it seems to me he was cancelled just as thoroughly as straight pedophiles.

The old guard at Hollywood has for over a century covered up lots of scandals including pedophilia - with figures like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein and their many predecessors. However, I don't see the current crop of leftists supporting this for same-sex cases like Spacey. Those who I know have been enthusiastic in the movement against Spacey just as much as figures like Weinstein and Epstein.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #216 on: November 30, 2021, 02:56:17 PM »
  Hollywood has also had several movies it produced that were putting pedo's in a sympathetic role.  Others where they made some innuendos, and so forth.  Not a doubt in my mind they have a large contingent of blood suckers that bang kids IRL all the time.  I think it is nice we can still seem to all agree "Pedos bad", but I have a feeling all the shifting will eventually lead to a more direct course to make society more accepting of pedos.  Molesters and rapists IMO commit a crime that in many ways is WORSE for the victim than murder, and if there is a case for the death penalty...molestation and categories of rape should carry the death penalty if we were were actually healthy as a society.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #217 on: November 30, 2021, 04:18:37 PM »
  Hollywood has also had several movies it produced that were putting pedo's in a sympathetic role.  Others where they made some innuendos, and so forth.  Not a doubt in my mind they have a large contingent of blood suckers that bang kids IRL all the time.  I think it is nice we can still seem to all agree "Pedos bad", but I have a feeling all the shifting will eventually lead to a more direct course to make society more accepting of pedos.

Society used to be more accepting of many practices that are now increasingly frowned on -- like how the age of consent has generally gone up, marital rape is now generally illegal, and there are a growing number of states that have made child marriage illegal. So I'd consider those to be positive developments.

That doesn't mean that things can't get worse in the future, of course. I certainly hope we don't backslide on this.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #218 on: November 30, 2021, 05:53:42 PM »
Roman Polanski is an interesting one though. The guy was traumatized by WWII as well probably. I think they gassed most of his family. And then getting targeted by the Manson family. Holy shit.

 I remember people clapping for him in absentia during the Oscars, even when his abuse case was well known. Later I assume he was considered toxic again. Rightly so because that thing was creepy as hell. But if he turned out to be a serial killer I think many would still say “well at least I can see how he snapped”. Not easy to know what to think about the guy.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #219 on: November 30, 2021, 07:07:13 PM »
  Hollywood has also had several movies it produced that were putting pedo's in a sympathetic role.  Others where they made some innuendos, and so forth.  Not a doubt in my mind they have a large contingent of blood suckers that bang kids IRL all the time.  I think it is nice we can still seem to all agree "Pedos bad", but I have a feeling all the shifting will eventually lead to a more direct course to make society more accepting of pedos.

Society used to be more accepting of many practices that are now increasingly frowned on -- like how the age of consent has generally gone up, marital rape is now generally illegal, and there are a growing number of states that have made child marriage illegal. So I'd consider those to be positive developments.

That doesn't mean that things can't get worse in the future, of course. I certainly hope we don't backslide on this.

To be fair, those all stem from a time when Western Europe was still shitting in the streets.  Married in early teens, squirt out a dozen pups hoping one or two survive, a grandparent in your 30s, dead by 40 or 45.  That, and there was just a lot less to have to learn back then, so there was less time to have to invest in ensuring society survived in future generations.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #220 on: November 30, 2021, 08:01:28 PM »
Society used to be more accepting of many practices that are now increasingly frowned on -- like how the age of consent has generally gone up, marital rape is now generally illegal, and there are a growing number of states that have made child marriage illegal. So I'd consider those to be positive developments.

That doesn't mean that things can't get worse in the future, of course. I certainly hope we don't backslide on this.

To be fair, those all stem from a time when Western Europe was still shitting in the streets.  Married in early teens, squirt out a dozen pups hoping one or two survive, a grandparent in your 30s, dead by 40 or 45.  That, and there was just a lot less to have to learn back then, so there was less time to have to invest in ensuring society survived in future generations.

I agree about the origin, but (for example) Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin in 1957, which wasn't that long ago in the scheme of things. Child sexual abuse is still common, with estimates ranging from 5% to 15% of kids having experienced sexual abuse. It's hard to get accurate statistics on, though.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #221 on: November 30, 2021, 09:33:45 PM »
  Hollywood has also had several movies it produced that were putting pedo's in a sympathetic role.  Others where they made some innuendos, and so forth.  Not a doubt in my mind they have a large contingent of blood suckers that bang kids IRL all the time.  I think it is nice we can still seem to all agree "Pedos bad", but I have a feeling all the shifting will eventually lead to a more direct course to make society more accepting of pedos.

Society used to be more accepting of many practices that are now increasingly frowned on -- like how the age of consent has generally gone up, marital rape is now generally illegal, and there are a growing number of states that have made child marriage illegal. So I'd consider those to be positive developments.

That doesn't mean that things can't get worse in the future, of course. I certainly hope we don't backslide on this.

To be fair, those all stem from a time when Western Europe was still shitting in the streets.  Married in early teens, squirt out a dozen pups hoping one or two survive, a grandparent in your 30s, dead by 40 or 45.  That, and there was just a lot less to have to learn back then, so there was less time to have to invest in ensuring society survived in future generations.

Child marriage is still legal in much of the US TODAY. Only six states have a total ban on all underage marriages (New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Rhode Island, and New York). This is not a rare thing, thousands of perfectly legal marriages of children to adults happen every year in the US.

6 twelve year-olds were legally married between 2000 and 2015.

Source: http://apps.frontline.org/child-marriage-by-the-numbers/

North Carolina has recently restricted child marriage, which is a very good thing as NC was until recently one of 13 states that allowed 14-15 year-old children to get married, but even with this new law it is still legal for 20 year-olds to marry 16 year-olds: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article253635118.html https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/15/north-carolina-child-marriage-new-bill
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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #222 on: December 02, 2021, 10:35:49 AM »
Some days, you wonder if we really are turning the corner. Other days you want to see stuff like this because only the truly deluded accept it.

https://mynorthwest.com/3116002/rantz-wsu-farmers-markets-food-charity-white-supremacy/

Evidently, agriculture and food charity are now 'white'.


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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #223 on: December 02, 2021, 03:13:34 PM »
Nevertheless they went ahead with it all. They show a lot of enthusiasm for the message, so I'm going to take them at their word.

For the record, I fully support death threats against people who promote sexual violence against children.

If you are taking them at their word, then what they intend to do is convert children into being "tolerant and fair", and "teach them not to hate". That's what the lyrics of the song actually say. It sounds like you're *not* taking them at their word, and instead reading something other than the literal meaning into the song.

It is absolutely a reference and parody of conservative allegations that gay people are all child molesters, but the intent of the song is to deny those allegations and push a different message instead. One can say it is in bad taste, but the literal meaning of the words spoken is clear.

  I have never heard it as a conservative allegation that gay people are all child molesters.  I HAVE read that about 35 percent of all child molesters are gay men, which seems to be a disproportionate population share.   I have no idea as to how accurate it is.  I would say, the problem is you say take them at their word.  They have COMPLETELY different meanings for the words "tolerant" and "fair" than the general population.  I think it best they stick to taking zinc shots in the kisser and lay off the trolling about kids.

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Re: Turning the corner on "woke"?
« Reply #224 on: December 07, 2021, 05:16:30 PM »
Some days, you wonder if we really are turning the corner. Other days you want to see stuff like this because only the truly deluded accept it.

https://mynorthwest.com/3116002/rantz-wsu-farmers-markets-food-charity-white-supremacy/

Evidently, agriculture and food charity are now 'white'.

In that line of thinking this should red pill a lot of folks, it won't because it won't make the news because it would red pill a lot of folks.

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