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Tucker just became the biggest threat to the establishment

Started by FingerRod, May 10, 2023, 04:32:13 PM

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Brad

I like how you can't criticize her because she's a woman. That's cool. If she was black, would it also be racist? She might be a lesbian, so it's also homophobic, right?

Mistwell has gone full NPC.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Grognard GM

Quote from: Brad on May 13, 2023, 11:20:34 AM
Mistwell has gone full NPC.

The dude's never even seen the inside of the Players Handbook, pure Monster Manual all the way.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Eirikrautha

Quote from: Brad on May 13, 2023, 11:20:34 AM
I like how you can't criticize her because she's a woman. That's cool. If she was black, would it also be racist? She might be a lesbian, so it's also homophobic, right?

Mistwell has gone full NPC.

He hasn't gone anywhere.  He was always there; he just tried "Hello, fellow conservatives!" one too many times.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Mistwell on May 12, 2023, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Zelen on May 11, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
Elon just hired a woman as the new CEO of Twitter. Your hopes are misplaced.

So, just going for straight up misogyny now?

Even without knowing she's a WEF baby and a DIE infiltrator one could think hiring a woman is likely to end in "hate speech" bullshit, because women are more likely to care about the hurt fee fees of some random asshole in the internet.

But we do know she's a leftist, WEF, DIE nutjob wahmen.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Zelen

When people constantly engage in bad faith argumentation, they get blocked. I find it helps to acknowledge that it's not worth engaging with people who have a pattern of behaving in certain ways that are just a net psycho-social drain.
For the same reason Elon Musk clearly made a bad decision in choosing a CEO with a demonstrated personal (et al.) commitment to behavior that's antithetical to his own stated goals.

jhkim

Quote from: Zelen on May 11, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
Elon just hired a woman as the new CEO of Twitter. Your hopes are misplaced.
Quote from: Mistwell on May 12, 2023, 10:58:56 PM
So, just going for straight up misogyny now?
Quote from: Brad on May 13, 2023, 11:20:34 AM
I like how you can't criticize her because she's a woman. That's cool. If she was black, would it also be racist? She might be a lesbian, so it's also homophobic, right?

Mistwell has gone full NPC.

In Zelen's post, he doesn't have any criticism of her qualifications or even her politics.

The only thing that he refers to about her is that she is a woman.

Saying that she's a poor choice because of her qualifications or skills is reasonable if it's based on actual qualifications or skills. Saying that she's a poor choice simply because she's a woman is prejudiced, unless one actually believes that women are inherently unqualified to be CEOs.

At this point I don't know anything about the new Twitter CEO, but do people think, say, Carly Fiorina is a competent leader?

3catcircus

Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: Zelen on May 11, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
Elon just hired a woman as the new CEO of Twitter. Your hopes are misplaced.
Quote from: Mistwell on May 12, 2023, 10:58:56 PM
So, just going for straight up misogyny now?
Quote from: Brad on May 13, 2023, 11:20:34 AM
I like how you can't criticize her because she's a woman. That's cool. If she was black, would it also be racist? She might be a lesbian, so it's also homophobic, right?

Mistwell has gone full NPC.

In Zelen's post, he doesn't have any criticism of her qualifications or even her politics.

The only thing that he refers to about her is that she is a woman.

Saying that she's a poor choice because of her qualifications or skills is reasonable if it's based on actual qualifications or skills. Saying that she's a poor choice simply because she's a woman is prejudiced, unless one actually believes that women are inherently unqualified to be CEOs.

At this point I don't know anything about the new Twitter CEO, but do people think, say, Carly Fiorina is a competent leader?

I *will* criticize her qualifications. She is a member of the Ad Council, executive chair of the WEF, and the US Dept of HHS.  She is an architect of the lockdowns and "vaccine" pushing. You don't think she's not a dyed in the wool communist who will employ censorship while running  twitter?  She shouldn't be running twitter whatsoever.  Elon would have done better to pick a mafia captain, a pig farmer, or an average 5 year old.

We'll see how long Tucker stays with Twitter - he better start looking at Rumble if he hasn't already.

Grognard GM

Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: Zelen on May 11, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
Elon just hired a woman as the new CEO of Twitter. Your hopes are misplaced.
Quote from: Mistwell on May 12, 2023, 10:58:56 PM
So, just going for straight up misogyny now?
Quote from: Brad on May 13, 2023, 11:20:34 AM
I like how you can't criticize her because she's a woman. That's cool. If she was black, would it also be racist? She might be a lesbian, so it's also homophobic, right?

Mistwell has gone full NPC.

In Zelen's post, he doesn't have any criticism of her qualifications or even her politics.

The only thing that he refers to about her is that she is a woman.

Saying that she's a poor choice because of her qualifications or skills is reasonable if it's based on actual qualifications or skills. Saying that she's a poor choice simply because she's a woman is prejudiced, unless one actually believes that women are inherently unqualified to be CEOs.

At this point I don't know anything about the new Twitter CEO, but do people think, say, Carly Fiorina is a competent leader?

She's not just a woman though. He didn't hire a housewife or a crossing guard, he hired a female executive. And after a good decade of every single female CEO hired to a company subsequently turning the company in to a woke mess that drives away the customer base, and tanks the stock values, we Humans that don't artificially blind ourselves to patterns, know what happens next.

She looks and talks like a Karen, is a coastal elite that obviously is ivy league. I could list her opinions on every important topic without ever speaking to her. Hell, she was talking safety and censorship 5 minutes after getting the gig.

But you know all of this. Or at least the honest part of your brain does.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

jhkim

Quote from: 3catcircus on May 13, 2023, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 07:20:37 PM
In Zelen's post, he doesn't have any criticism of her qualifications or even her politics.

The only thing that he refers to about her is that she is a woman.

Saying that she's a poor choice because of her qualifications or skills is reasonable if it's based on actual qualifications or skills. Saying that she's a poor choice simply because she's a woman is prejudiced, unless one actually believes that women are inherently unqualified to be CEOs.

At this point I don't know anything about the new Twitter CEO, but do people think, say, Carly Fiorina is a competent leader?

I *will* criticize her qualifications. She is a member of the Ad Council, executive chair of the WEF, and the US Dept of HHS.  She is an architect of the lockdowns and "vaccine" pushing. You don't think she's not a dyed in the wool communist who will employ censorship while running  twitter?

Great! Then my points about Zelen's comment doesn't apply to you.

As for Yaccarino, as I said, I know almost nothing about her at this point and have no opinion either way.

jhkim

Quote from: Grognard GM on May 13, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
She's not just a woman though. He didn't hire a housewife or a crossing guard, he hired a female executive. And after a good decade of every single female CEO hired to a company subsequently turning the company in to a woke mess that drives away the customer base, and tanks the stock values, we Humans that don't artificially blind ourselves to patterns, know what happens next.

I don't know enough about CEOs across all industries to generalize about them all, or about women CEOs. From quick search, I see this:

https://msmagazine.com/2020/11/03/heres-where-top-women-ceos-are-putting-their-political-dollars/

Of these top 21 women CEOs, their donations were:

  • Republican-only:  7
  • Democrat-only: 3
  • Mixed Republican-Democrat: 3
  • Non-affiliated only: 8

So a third of them donated to only Republican political funds. The Republican-only donors were:

  • Julie Sweet of Accenture
  • Safra Catz of Oracle
  • Gail Boudreaux of Anthem
  • Lynn Good of Duke Energy
  • Vicki Hollub of Occidental Petroleum
  • Heather Bresch of Mylan
  • Jennifer Johnson of Franklin Templeton

From your characterization, I'd expect them to not be donating to Trump funds - but a good fraction of them did, moreso than those donating to DNC funds.

Grognard GM

Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 13, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
She's not just a woman though. He didn't hire a housewife or a crossing guard, he hired a female executive. And after a good decade of every single female CEO hired to a company subsequently turning the company in to a woke mess that drives away the customer base, and tanks the stock values, we Humans that don't artificially blind ourselves to patterns, know what happens next.

I don't know enough about CEOs across all industries to generalize about them all, or about women CEOs. From quick search, I see this:

https://msmagazine.com/2020/11/03/heres-where-top-women-ceos-are-putting-their-political-dollars/

Of these top 21 women CEOs, their donations were:

  • Republican-only:  7
  • Democrat-only: 3
  • Mixed Republican-Democrat: 3
  • Non-affiliated only: 8

So a third of them donated to only Republican political funds. The Republican-only donors were:

  • Julie Sweet of Accenture
  • Safra Catz of Oracle
  • Gail Boudreaux of Anthem
  • Lynn Good of Duke Energy
  • Vicki Hollub of Occidental Petroleum
  • Heather Bresch of Mylan
  • Jennifer Johnson of Franklin Templeton

From your characterization, I'd expect them to not be donating to Trump funds - but a good fraction of them did, moreso than those donating to DNC funds.

As I'm not prepared to dig deep in to the 4 year old data from Ms. magazine (tagline: not just a magazine, but a movement) I'll switch to more relevant data. Twitter is big tech, and big tech is overwhelmingly very Left wing, and very censorious. I haven't seen a single woman in big Tech calling for free speech, or letting people have access to unfiltered news.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 13, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
She's not just a woman though. He didn't hire a housewife or a crossing guard, he hired a female executive. And after a good decade of every single female CEO hired to a company subsequently turning the company in to a woke mess that drives away the customer base, and tanks the stock values, we Humans that don't artificially blind ourselves to patterns, know what happens next.

I don't know enough about CEOs across all industries to generalize about them all, or about women CEOs. From quick search, I see this:

https://msmagazine.com/2020/11/03/heres-where-top-women-ceos-are-putting-their-political-dollars/

Of these top 21 women CEOs, their donations were:

  • Republican-only:  7
  • Democrat-only: 3
  • Mixed Republican-Democrat: 3
  • Non-affiliated only: 8

So a third of them donated to only Republican political funds. The Republican-only donors were:

  • Julie Sweet of Accenture
  • Safra Catz of Oracle
  • Gail Boudreaux of Anthem
  • Lynn Good of Duke Energy
  • Vicki Hollub of Occidental Petroleum
  • Heather Bresch of Mylan
  • Jennifer Johnson of Franklin Templeton

From your characterization, I'd expect them to not be donating to Trump funds - but a good fraction of them did, moreso than those donating to DNC funds.

Lets assume those are THEIR personal donations, you're aware they donate to buy political favor and not only because they agree with X Party?

But even if they did agree with the party, how does that change the WEF's puppet into anything but?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Quote from: Grognard GM on May 13, 2023, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: jhkim on May 13, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 13, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
She's not just a woman though. He didn't hire a housewife or a crossing guard, he hired a female executive. And after a good decade of every single female CEO hired to a company subsequently turning the company in to a woke mess that drives away the customer base, and tanks the stock values, we Humans that don't artificially blind ourselves to patterns, know what happens next.

I don't know enough about CEOs across all industries to generalize about them all, or about women CEOs. From quick search, I see this:

https://msmagazine.com/2020/11/03/heres-where-top-women-ceos-are-putting-their-political-dollars/
....
From your characterization, I'd expect them to not be donating to Trump funds - but a good fraction of them did, moreso than those donating to DNC funds.

As I'm not prepared to dig deep in to the 4 year old data from Ms. magazine (tagline: not just a magazine, but a movement) I'll switch to more relevant data. Twitter is big tech, and big tech is overwhelmingly very Left wing, and very censorious. I haven't seen a single woman in big Tech calling for free speech, or letting people have access to unfiltered news.

Safra Catz is CEO of Oracle (i.e. big tech) and was on Trump's transition team in 2016, as well as being a major donor to his campaign along with other Republicans.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-catz/oracle-ceo-catz-to-join-trump-transition-team-remain-at-oracle-idUSKBN1442RK

Trump said about Oracle's takeover of TikTok's US operations -- "I think Oracle is a great company, and I think its owner is a tremendous guy," Trump said. "He's a tremendous person. I think that Oracle would be certainly somebody that could handle it."

Claiming that the CEO Catz is left-wing seems incorrect.

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 13, 2023, 10:11:14 PM
Lets assume those are THEIR personal donations, you're aware they donate to buy political favor and not only because they agree with X Party?

But even if they did agree with the party, how does that change the WEF's puppet into anything but?

I don't think it's important what CEOs secretly think in private.

Again, Zelen's initial complaint wasn't that Musk's new CEO was a WEF puppet. He claimed that it was the wrong choice because she was a woman. Grognard GM doubled down on this to say that every single women CEO turned their companies into woke messes, so it was right to complain about her being a woman.

I think that is wrong. Women can be competent as CEOs, and women can also be conservative.

Grognard GM

#28
Quote from: jhkim on May 14, 2023, 01:34:24 AM
Grognard GM doubled down on this to say that every single women CEO turned their companies into woke messes, so it was right to complain about her being a woman.

You're talking to GeekyBugle, who I know for a fact is autistic, and yet he'd have no problem understanding the concepts of hyperbole, or the exception that proves the rule. But then he doesn't go through life in a constant haze of disingenuous sophistry.

You know your arguments are full of crap. I mean on some level, under the self-delusion and sense that surely someone as smart and educated as you are couldn't have bought in to utter drivel, there's a part of your brain screaming.

Yet you come here every day, and tilt at windmills, FOR FREE. Do you have a missionary zeal to save the sinners? I'm mystified by your antics.

EDIT: One line removed because it referenced something that, on re-evaluation, was misplaced.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

jhkim

Quote from: Grognard GM on May 14, 2023, 01:46:27 AM
Quote from: jhkim on May 14, 2023, 01:34:24 AM
Grognard GM doubled down on this to say that every single women CEO turned their companies into woke messes, so it was right to complain about her being a woman.

You're talking to GeekyBugle, who I know for a fact is autistic, and yet he'd have no problem understanding the concepts of hyperbole, or the exception that proves the rule. But then he doesn't go through life in a constant haze of disingenuous sophistry.

The sophistry here is that you resort to personal attacks instead of trying to actually argue your point.


As I understand it, your claim is that it's correct to immediately see it as a problem that Musk hired a woman as CEO, simply because she is a woman, because there is an overwhelming pattern of women CEOs turning their companies into woke messes.

Again, I'm not an expert on all women CEOs -- but then, I suspect neither are you. At this point, I don't even see it as a pattern at all, let alone an overwhelming one. I'd agree that big tech CEOs tend to be left-leaning, but that's true of men big tech CEOs. I don't see anything to suggest that women CEOs are what is making big tech woke. It's men like Zuckerberg, Bezos and Pichai who seem in the forefront of this.