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Tracy Hurley & Filamena Young Attack the D&D With Porn Stars Women Transcript

Started by Zak S, August 05, 2014, 12:45:57 PM

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Novastar

#30
August 05, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Yeah, sorry Zak, but you know one of the things I've found out, from this whole shitfest?

I never want to post on G+ or Twitter; it's just a toxic wasteland of high school drama, of the worst sort.
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

Zak S

#31
August 05, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: Novastar;776267Yeah, sorry Zak, but you know one of the things I've found out, from this whole shitfest?

I never want to post on G+ or Twitter; it's just a toxic wasteland of high school drama, of the worst sort.

Why are you apologizing to me for that?
I won a jillion RPG design awards.

Buy something. 100% of the proceeds go toward legal action against people this forum hates.

arminius

#32
August 05, 2014, 05:38:55 PM
G+ is okay. Twitter is completely unsuited to conversation, although it has other good uses.

Novastar

#33
August 05, 2014, 05:58:01 PM
Quote from: Zak S;776276Why are you apologizing to me for that?
Cause you had to find out firsthand, the sinister nature of the beast, for me to learn from your example.
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

dragoner

#34
August 05, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
One thing about getting old, is that you see the same stuff recycled -



Which is basically the response to the Maxim article, sans irony.
The most beautiful peonies I ever saw ... were grown in almost pure cat excrement.
-Vonnegut

Gronan of Simmerya

#35
August 05, 2014, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;776229Serious Question!!!

Who are these people (Hurley & Young) and why do they matter?

Quote from: Zak S;7762311. Assholes.
2. They don't matter.
(Unless you do something in games they don't like, in which case they fuck with you. Like, say, consult on 5th edition of D&D. In which case they libel you.)

How far do you have to dig to find the libel?

Most of the D&D world has never heard of those people, or you, or me, for that matter.  All you're doing is giving them publicity.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Novastar

#36
August 05, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
Quote from: Old Geezer;776299Most of the D&D world has never heard of those people, or you, or me, for that matter.  All you're doing is giving them publicity.
I'll agree; but at the same time, if the first dozen links that show up if someone Googles your name, were "You're a homophobe!" "You hate all WOMENZ!" and other such drek, it'd probably bother you too, if your Internet reputation is important to you (for various reasons).
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

Marleycat

#37
August 05, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: Arminius;776279G+ is okay. Twitter is completely unsuited to conversation, although it has other good uses.

Like NFL news.: Specifically Seattle Seahawk news.:)
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

The Ent

#38
August 05, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: dragoner;776292One thing about getting old, is that you see the same stuff recycled -



Which is basically the response to the Maxim article, sans irony.

Sooner or later my willpower will give out and I'll post that pic in a TBP thread...

Novastar

#39
August 05, 2014, 07:35:29 PM
I'll admit to my ignorance...
What the frell is that shit?!?
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

jhkim

#40
August 05, 2014, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Zak S;776234Being "just mean" is way different than accusing someone of a crime.
Technically, none of being a homophobe, lying, or apologizing for rape is inherently a crime. Really, I don't give a shit about the legalities, though.

Among most people, if I'm talking to someone and suddenly they tell me to go fuck myself with a spoon, I can reasonably ask them to apologize.

If I'm talking to someone and they politely express how they think something I worked on was harmful - I can disagree, but I can't reasonably demand an apology.

dragoner

#41
August 05, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: The Ent;776349Sooner or later my willpower will give out and I'll post that pic in a TBP thread...

Quote from: Novastar;776354I'll admit to my ignorance...
What the frell is that shit?!?

It's is an art piece by Raymond Pettibon, a prolific, and very sarcastic artist starting from the 1970's LA punk scene.
The most beautiful peonies I ever saw ... were grown in almost pure cat excrement.
-Vonnegut

Zak S

#42
August 05, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: jhkim;776356Technically, none of being a homophobe, lying, or apologizing for rape is inherently a crime. Really, I don't give a shit about the legalities, though.

Among most people, if I'm talking to someone and suddenly they tell me to go fuck myself with a spoon, I can reasonably ask them to apologize.

If I'm talking to someone and they politely express how they think something I worked on was harmful - I can disagree, but I can't reasonably demand an apology.

Ok, but this is important:

If you're a random googler and you come upon someone saying "Fuck this person with a spoon" you think "Oh internet grief, who cares?"

If you're a random googler and you come upon someone saying "You are sexist" you think "Oh shit, might this person be sexist?"

Mere abuse is not damaging to the target's business or reputation and does not muddy the waters of what is true and false and what's easy or hard to find out and doesn't (in short) waste the innocent person's time checking them or believing them.

False accusations do. That's why there are laws about them.
I won a jillion RPG design awards.

Buy something. 100% of the proceeds go toward legal action against people this forum hates.

Zak S

#43
August 05, 2014, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: Old Geezer;776299How far do you have to dig to find the libel?
Depends where you are. Some poor kids on Tumblr stumble over it without even knowing who Pundit and I are. The FIRST THING THEY HEAR about the new d&D trough the videogame rumor mill is that 2 consultants are allegedly homophobic.

That's sad and fucked up and their fault.
I won a jillion RPG design awards.

Buy something. 100% of the proceeds go toward legal action against people this forum hates.

jhkim

#44
August 05, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: snooggums;776265What she said was rude and offensive, and deserves an apology, no matter what her method of saying it was.
You're saying that here on theRPGsite? I agree that the phrasing there was rude, such that I would raise an eyebrow at it if was said in a polite conversation among friends.

Really, I would love it if we could have standards of politeness around here such that a bit of rudeness like that made waves. However, when I look around on this site and these threads in particularly (including the quoted G+ thread), there is a ton of rudeness from all sides.

From my point of view, accusing people of homophobia, calling them lying shitsacks, calling them assholes and scum, etc. - these are the sorts of things we could use less of first. Then maybe we'll move on to encouraging less aggressive and/or passive-aggressive phrasing and so forth.
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