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Author Topic: "Tolkien and Diversity" "A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities LotR"  (Read 1589 times)

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Looks like the Tolkien Society is going down the drain. Just a reminder that JRR Tolkien was a traditional Catholic with a fascination for European myth primarily (he was one of the leading scholars interpreting Beowulf for instance).

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And thats why I could never finish The Silmarillion
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And thats why I could never finish The Silmarillion
I did finish the Silmarillion and I am about 99 percent certain none of this shit was in it.

Look at this! LOOK AT IT!

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Cordeliah Logsdon – Gondor in Transition: A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in The Lord of the Rings
Clare Moore – The Problem of Pain: Portraying Physical Disability in the Fantasy of J. R. R. Tolkien
V. Elizabeth King – “The Burnt Hand Teaches Most About Fire”: Applying Traumatic Stress and Ecological Frameworks to Narratives of Displacement and Resettlement Across Cultures in Tolkien’s Middle-earth
Christopher Vaccaro – Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings
Sultana Raza – Projecting Indian Myths, Culture and History onto Tolkien’s Worlds
Nicholas Birns – The Lossoth: Indigeneity, Identity, and Antiracism
Kristine Larsen – The Problematic Perimeters of Elrond Half-elven and Ronald English-Catholic
Cami Agan – Hearkening to the Other: Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
Sara Brown – The Invisible Other: Tolkien’s Dwarf-Women and the ‘Feminine Lack’
Sonali Chunodkar – Desire of the Ring: An Indian Academic’s Adventures in her Quest for the Perilous Realm
Robin Reid – Queer Atheists, Agnostics, and Animists, Oh, My!
Joel Merriner – Hidden Visions: Iconographies of Alterity in Soviet Bloc Illustrations for The Lord of the Rings
Eric Reinders – Questions of Caste in The Lord of the Rings and its Multiple Chinese Translations
Dawn Walls-Thumma – Stars Less Strange: An Analysis of Fanfiction and Representation within the Tolkien Fan Community
Danna Petersen-Deeprose – “Something Mighty Queer”: Destabilizing Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien
Martha Celis-Mendoza – Translation as a means of representation and diversity in Tolkien’s scholarship and fandom
What the flying fuck IS this? Transgender realities in LOTR? WHAT? The queer in LOTR?! WHAT?! WHAT?!?

... I'm okay. I'm OKAY. Really. I just... fuck every one of these fucking useless ass bandit clowns for shitting in something I have fucking LOVED since I was a kid! God DAMN I am pissed off now. All I want to do is go full Spider Jerusalem and fill this text box with 'fuck' over and over till the keys melt off my keyboard!

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    It looks like a list of crazy bastards and what they sit around thinking.  I remember when it was just about marriage equality.  Now it seems to be about being injected into all culture, all pop culture, over represented on TV/movies, and now I guess singing songs for little kids on nickelodeon with commie symbols.  This is just insanity.

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And thats why I could never finish The Silmarillion
I did finish the Silmarillion and I am about 99 percent certain none of this shit was in it.

Look at this! LOOK AT IT!

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Cordeliah Logsdon – Gondor in Transition: A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in The Lord of the Rings
Clare Moore – The Problem of Pain: Portraying Physical Disability in the Fantasy of J. R. R. Tolkien
V. Elizabeth King – “The Burnt Hand Teaches Most About Fire”: Applying Traumatic Stress and Ecological Frameworks to Narratives of Displacement and Resettlement Across Cultures in Tolkien’s Middle-earth
Christopher Vaccaro – Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings
Sultana Raza – Projecting Indian Myths, Culture and History onto Tolkien’s Worlds
Nicholas Birns – The Lossoth: Indigeneity, Identity, and Antiracism
Kristine Larsen – The Problematic Perimeters of Elrond Half-elven and Ronald English-Catholic
Cami Agan – Hearkening to the Other: Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
Sara Brown – The Invisible Other: Tolkien’s Dwarf-Women and the ‘Feminine Lack’
Sonali Chunodkar – Desire of the Ring: An Indian Academic’s Adventures in her Quest for the Perilous Realm
Robin Reid – Queer Atheists, Agnostics, and Animists, Oh, My!
Joel Merriner – Hidden Visions: Iconographies of Alterity in Soviet Bloc Illustrations for The Lord of the Rings
Eric Reinders – Questions of Caste in The Lord of the Rings and its Multiple Chinese Translations
Dawn Walls-Thumma – Stars Less Strange: An Analysis of Fanfiction and Representation within the Tolkien Fan Community
Danna Petersen-Deeprose – “Something Mighty Queer”: Destabilizing Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien
Martha Celis-Mendoza – Translation as a means of representation and diversity in Tolkien’s scholarship and fandom
What the flying fuck IS this? Transgender realities in LOTR? WHAT? The queer in LOTR?! WHAT?! WHAT?!?

... I'm okay. I'm OKAY. Really. I just... fuck every one of these fucking useless ass bandit clowns for shitting in something I have fucking LOVED since I was a kid! God DAMN I am pissed off now. All I want to do is go full Spider Jerusalem and fill this text box with 'fuck' over and over till the keys melt off my keyboard!

Greetings!

So true, Ghostmaker! These kinds of terrible, evil, and corrupt things--and more--are why I absolutely despise all of the cock-sucking Liberal Marxists. They are disgusting, and like filthy, evil rats. They are always scheming, always yearning to corrupt and destroy everything in our culture--and seek to gain power, and impose absolute darkness and tyranny.

Shitting all over JRR Tolkien and his cherished works of literature and history--they won't stop, my friend. Absolutely appalling! I too, have loved Tolkien's works ever since I was a kid. I first read The Hobbit, then The Lord of the Rings, and then, yes, the magnificent and awe-inspiring Silmarillion.

Semper Fidelis,

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It's like someone looked at the LARPers, and said, "How could we be even weirder?"

Well, that explains Furries at least.....

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How can these people call themselves the "Tolkein Society"? Sincerely. Anyone promoting this stuff needs to be kicked out. Go write about Mercedes Lackey or some other trash-tier author if you want to engage in this type of garbage wankery.

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How can these people call themselves the "Tolkein Society"? Sincerely. Anyone promoting this stuff needs to be kicked out. Go write about Mercedes Lackey or some other trash-tier author if you want to engage in this type of garbage wankery.

Greetings!

Mercedes Lackey! ;D *Laughing* I remember her. I have read a few of her books. I was not impressed, at all. I remember reading and earing about all of the acclaim for her, how "Deep", "Profound", and "Inspirational" her books are. I don't get it. As an author, her books come across to me like they are written by a Liberal, Bubblegum Wiccan who is overly impressed that she passed a basic English 101 college class. I've always wondered, what the hell do all of these writer-organizations, award programs, and giggling fans see in her that I don't?

Semper Fidelis,

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"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security bred from familiar things and familiar ways. It narrows the mind. Weakens the body. And robs the soul of spirit and determination. Comfort is neither welcome nor tolerated here."

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but is doing what you have to, in spite of the fear."
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Ironically, Lackey isn't all that bad compared to someone like Scalzi (who's been coasting on Redshirts for how long now?).

Now if you want to fry your brains with some rice, consider Eric Flint, who's very pro-American and is also a fucking full on Trotskyite.

Yeah, I don't know how it works either. He does write a good stick though, and he's a nice enough fellow.

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And thats why I could never finish The Silmarillion
I did finish the Silmarillion and I am about 99 percent certain none of this shit was in it.

Look at this! LOOK AT IT!

Quote
Cordeliah Logsdon – Gondor in Transition: A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in The Lord of the Rings
Clare Moore – The Problem of Pain: Portraying Physical Disability in the Fantasy of J. R. R. Tolkien
V. Elizabeth King – “The Burnt Hand Teaches Most About Fire”: Applying Traumatic Stress and Ecological Frameworks to Narratives of Displacement and Resettlement Across Cultures in Tolkien’s Middle-earth
Christopher Vaccaro – Pardoning Saruman?: The Queer in Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings
Sultana Raza – Projecting Indian Myths, Culture and History onto Tolkien’s Worlds
Nicholas Birns – The Lossoth: Indigeneity, Identity, and Antiracism
Kristine Larsen – The Problematic Perimeters of Elrond Half-elven and Ronald English-Catholic
Cami Agan – Hearkening to the Other: Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
Sara Brown – The Invisible Other: Tolkien’s Dwarf-Women and the ‘Feminine Lack’
Sonali Chunodkar – Desire of the Ring: An Indian Academic’s Adventures in her Quest for the Perilous Realm
Robin Reid – Queer Atheists, Agnostics, and Animists, Oh, My!
Joel Merriner – Hidden Visions: Iconographies of Alterity in Soviet Bloc Illustrations for The Lord of the Rings
Eric Reinders – Questions of Caste in The Lord of the Rings and its Multiple Chinese Translations
Dawn Walls-Thumma – Stars Less Strange: An Analysis of Fanfiction and Representation within the Tolkien Fan Community
Danna Petersen-Deeprose – “Something Mighty Queer”: Destabilizing Cishetero Amatonormativity in the Works of Tolkien
Martha Celis-Mendoza – Translation as a means of representation and diversity in Tolkien’s scholarship and fandom
What the flying fuck IS this? Transgender realities in LOTR? WHAT? The queer in LOTR?! WHAT?! WHAT?!?

... I'm okay. I'm OKAY. Really. I just... fuck every one of these fucking useless ass bandit clowns for shitting in something I have fucking LOVED since I was a kid! God DAMN I am pissed off now. All I want to do is go full Spider Jerusalem and fill this text box with 'fuck' over and over till the keys melt off my keyboard!

Ehhh, you are assuming that any of these academic whores actually believe what they write.  The really stupid ones do, for sure, but the rest are just writing what the current zeitgeist finds popular.  This is publish or perish at its finest.  Once everything has been said about a well-researched author, you have to start saying outlandished crap in order to even have a chance at getting that glorious lifetime professorial post.  I'd have more respect for them if they did believe their own garbage, rather than just being the intellectual prostitutes they mostly are...

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This tears it.

The next read-through of the Lord of the Rings I undertake, I will use my hardback omnibus edition I purchased back in the 1990s.  The one that weighs as much as a car battery and is the size of the New York City phone book.  I'll take it with me even if I have to carry it in a backpack, and I will read it in public, in parks, restaurants, wherever.  The first person who walks up and says, "Oh, Lord of the Rings, how cool!  Say, have you heard about the transgender realities in The Lord of the Rings?" will get beaten to death with that book.
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This tears it.

The next read-through of the Lord of the Rings I undertake, I will use my hardback omnibus edition I purchased back in the 1990s.  The one that weighs as much as a car battery and is the size of the New York City phone book.  I'll take it with me even if I have to carry it in a backpack, and I will read it in public, in parks, restaurants, wherever.  The first person who walks up and says, "Oh, Lord of the Rings, how cool!  Say, have you heard about the transgender realities in The Lord of the Rings?" will get beaten to death with that book.

Admirable, but after writing this you won't be able to claim temporary insanity. Might be worth it though.