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Thousand Year Old Wokepire

Started by critical_fumble, April 17, 2021, 07:50:30 AM

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Snowman0147 on April 27, 2021, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: DocJones on April 27, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: critical_fumble on April 17, 2021, 07:50:30 AM
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If you are a supporter of the near or far right I am going to ask that you not buy my games. I don't want your money, but more importantly I don't want you to feel comfortable enjoying things produced by the people and systems you want to destroy. I don't want bad people playing my games–and that includes folks who are willing to look the other way while braver bigots perform their hateful work.

Yes this means members of cartoonishly evil hate groups, but it also specifically includes Trump supporters and those Republicans who voted for Trump. You are lobbying for the death of my friends and relations, you are pushing for dangerous authoritarians to destroy the systems that let books like mine come to be. And this goes for equivalent groups outside the US–you know who you are.

People who make art and beauty and fun almost universally revile you and it's time you started to feel that. You aren't welcome here, you don't get to play with my things. Shoo.

I'm almost tempted to buy it and post a youtube video of a bunch of us playing it while wearing MAGA hats and the most "left offending" T-shirts I can find.
Then send the author a link to it.   

Or not.
Someone is welcome to steal this idea. ;-P

I would say do it, but then you have to spend money on buying his book.  Do you want to do that, or spend money on people who would be appreciated to have your money?
Well, he COULD sail the seven seas for it. Not that I'd condone that, oh no.

Trond

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 28, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: Snowman0147 on April 27, 2021, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: DocJones on April 27, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: critical_fumble on April 17, 2021, 07:50:30 AM
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If you are a supporter of the near or far right I am going to ask that you not buy my games. I don't want your money, but more importantly I don't want you to feel comfortable enjoying things produced by the people and systems you want to destroy. I don't want bad people playing my games–and that includes folks who are willing to look the other way while braver bigots perform their hateful work.

Yes this means members of cartoonishly evil hate groups, but it also specifically includes Trump supporters and those Republicans who voted for Trump. You are lobbying for the death of my friends and relations, you are pushing for dangerous authoritarians to destroy the systems that let books like mine come to be. And this goes for equivalent groups outside the US–you know who you are.

People who make art and beauty and fun almost universally revile you and it's time you started to feel that. You aren't welcome here, you don't get to play with my things. Shoo.

I'm almost tempted to buy it and post a youtube video of a bunch of us playing it while wearing MAGA hats and the most "left offending" T-shirts I can find.
Then send the author a link to it.   

Or not.
Someone is welcome to steal this idea. ;-P

I would say do it, but then you have to spend money on buying his book.  Do you want to do that, or spend money on people who would be appreciated to have your money?
Well, he COULD sail the seven seas for it. Not that I'd condone that, oh no.

As others mentioned, it's available for free. Just say that you bought it.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: This Guy on April 17, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: critical_fumble on April 17, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 17, 2021, 05:08:56 PM
Quote from: critical_fumble on April 17, 2021, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 17, 2021, 04:41:47 PM
Lots of people this isn't even the most high profile. Some assholes are still so clenched over Fred Hicks telling chuds not to buy Fate of Cthulhu engineers are studying them for adhesive properties.

I had to go look up "chud". 

I guess it's just that this example seemed extreme given the theme of the game itself.

Nah it's a safe tactic, telling people who won't buy your game anyway not to buy your game. They get butthurt and continue to not by the game and people who don't like em are impressed by your brave stance and buy the game. Real easy choir preaching for cash.

Well, I don't meet the author's checklist of evil, but as soon as I saw his stance he lost my sale.

Better write him to tell him and hope he didn't get two more from having the checklist I guess.

Better yet, write him and tell him that you're far right and you bought his game anyway, played it, and enjoyed it and that you're now GM'ing a regular game with your right-wing friends.

EDIT - Ninja'd
Sic Semper Tyrannis

Snowman0147

You forgot Doc Sammy you need to start a youtube campaign and feature your ancient vampires as the facists.  Hmm...  Arch took the nazis so I suggest actual free market capitalists that are pro small government?

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Snowman0147 on May 12, 2021, 11:43:40 PM
You forgot Doc Sammy you need to start a youtube campaign and feature your ancient vampires as the facists.  Hmm...  Arch took the nazis so I suggest actual free market capitalists that are pro small government?

YES!

We should definitely do this.
Sic Semper Tyrannis

zircher

Playing this game as 1,000 year old conservative is on my to-do list this summer.  :-)
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

BoxCrayonTales

#81
I think I'll just play Feed instead. The author lets me buy it for free anyway.

Or any number of other games in a vaguely similar vein. Actual Fucking Monsters, Blood Dark Thirst, Night's Black Agents, The Blood Hack, Urban Shadows, w/e.

It's not like there's a dearth of vampire-themed games these days.

zircher

True true.  And if you are familiar with oracles/game master emulators like CRGE or Mythic GME, any game can be a solo game.  So, that is not even a limiting factor in your choices either.  Blood and a few others are also on my growing to-play list.
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

sevenlabors

QuoteIf you are a supporter of the near or far right I am going to ask that you not buy my games. I don't want your money, but more importantly I don't want you to feel comfortable enjoying things produced by the people and systems you want to destroy. I don't want bad people playing my games–and that includes folks who are willing to look the other way while braver bigots perform their hateful work.

Yes this means members of cartoonishly evil hate groups, but it also specifically includes Trump supporters and those Republicans who voted for Trump. You are lobbying for the death of my friends and relations, you are pushing for dangerous authoritarians to destroy the systems that let books like mine come to be. And this goes for equivalent groups outside the US–you know who you are.

People who make art and beauty and fun almost universally revile you and it's time you started to feel that. You aren't welcome here, you don't get to play with my things. Shoo.

I had been strongly considering picking up Thousand Year Old Vampire for a chill game while my GF plays her Switch, but seeing this?

I'm a pretty centrist independent libertarian.
I hold fairly liberal social views.
I'm certainly not a fan of Trump nor his base...

...But I don't care to support such people who think such polemical vitriol is helping anything.

"With words like these we don't cure patients, we make them incurable." -Peter Canisius, a sixteenth-century Jesuit, on polemical attacks against the Protestants

Quote from: zircher on May 25, 2021, 03:12:42 PM
True true.  And if you are familiar with oracles/game master emulators like CRGE or Mythic GME, any game can be a solo game.  So, that is not even a limiting factor in your choices either.  Blood and a few others are also on my growing to-play list.

I'll have to check that out.

New to solo gameplay, but am reminded of the tables in Ironsworn, as well.

zircher

Indeed, There is a You Tube series out there where a fellow is playing the original Ravenloft using the Ironsworn system.  So, it has functionality beyond its own setting.
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

zircher

Friendly reminder that Tim is soliciting votes for the Ennies, so don't vote for any of his works if you can.

"I have a game in the 2021 Level 1 Anthology, and the anthology was nominated for an Ennie award!  The Ennies are a pretty big deal and the last stage is a popularity-based voting contest, so...  If you want to help me out by voting go to https://vote.ennie-awards.com/vote/2022/ballot.php?category_id=10 and Choose the Level 1 Anthology.  VOTE QUICK BECAUSE SUNDAY IS YOUR LAST DAY TO DO SO."

Damn funny thing, after Tim got a little recognition, that do not buy request disappeared from his page.  Just another sell-out.  :-)
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

Reckall

"Don't buy our product!" is a common exhortation against "The Evil Other Side". I saw it in a lot of places but especially in the nu-wave of American comic book writers. It is always followed, after a couple of weeks, by weepy interviews about how "the market shrunk so much that they cannot make a living anymore by creating comic books".

Sure, the publishing house I work for has her own internal "code" regarding what you can and can't put in their comic books. The ones I worked for in France had theirs. However, should I say "if you don't agree with us don't buy" I would be chased away by a pack of dogs. Beside, how can you hope to "bring sanity to The Evil Other Side" if you refuse to offer a different point of view? Let them decide.

Regarding Evil Hat and "Fate of Cthulhu", we already talked extensively about that fiasco. "Lovecraft was a racist and an anti-Semite!" - which is already bizarre as it implies that anti-semitism somehow is not racism. Then they refused to give any proof and invited the buyers to do their own research. I did and it turned out that Jews have no problems at all with Lovecraft. Never tell people to do any kind of research if you are woke...
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

Shasarak

The latest Ennies looks like the worst yet.

Of course I still voted for Thirsty Sword Lesbians because whom among us does not like Lesbians who are Thirsty for a good Swording!
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on July 25, 2022, 06:45:09 AM
The latest Ennies looks like the worst yet.

Of course I still voted for Thirsty Sword Lesbians because whom among us does not like Lesbians who are Thirsty for a good Swording!
Let me make sure I cleared my web history..

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: Reckall on July 25, 2022, 06:22:41 AM
Regarding Evil Hat and "Fate of Cthulhu", we already talked extensively about that fiasco. "Lovecraft was a racist and an anti-Semite!" - which is already bizarre as it implies that anti-semitism somehow is not racism. Then they refused to give any proof and invited the buyers to do their own research. I did and it turned out that Jews have no problems at all with Lovecraft. Never tell people to do any kind of research if you are woke...
I love the glee with which the article points out that HPL was a hypocrite: "The 20th-century master of horror admired Hitler but married a Jew and hated 'alien' cultures but created some of the most memorable ones in literature"