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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2021, 07:11:31 PM »
Aside from some obvious virtue signaling, which certainly isn't uncommon, this rather floored me. Who tells people not to buy their product?!  Is this more common than I realize?

Maybe the 2nd Edition will be pretending to be a 1000 year old Racist.

He could collaborate with Evil Hat and make it about living as HP Lovecraft.

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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2021, 12:21:45 AM »
rofl

I bought this game a while back. I still haven't played it, but I read Anne Rice in my formative years and this game's theme drew me to it. Vampires and history and a discover-as-you-play series of prompts reminiscent of a solo adventure-book: what's not to like? Journaling is an option in the game for the would-be authors, but it can be played over a shorter period of time with brief entries.

The author is clearly deluded about life, but the game is good.

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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2021, 12:56:23 AM »
Hey I like me some vampires and I am not as politically correct as people who'd be offended by no-nazi tags, no argument there, I just gotta portion my time out and time spent shitposting in private on a journal is time not spent shitposting elsewhere yknow
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2021, 01:11:20 AM »
Correct. Nobody who wasn't already deep in the storygame / woke twitter community would buy this game anyway. The people he despises will not even see his creation unless pointed to it, since they move in different circles.

It's disheartening to see this false dichotomy. 

I feel the need to reiterate that *I was going to purchase this product until I accidentally saw their rant*.  It's possible, and probably more common than people realize, that someone can be interested in both osr or crunchy games and games that involve something like thought experiments or writing.  I don't feel the need to put myself in one camp or the other, nor should anyone else.
I don't see why it's so hard for people to allow others to enjoy whatever type of gaming they want.  Now, when people try to have a product taken down or censored, or even worse, to create legislation that will do it for them, then that's something to fight against if you can.

p.s. as far as the rivalry between the storytelling and dm-is-god camps, that's something that has been ongoing since the inception of d&d.  It's an interesting topic and I recommend reading The Elusive Shift by Jon Peterson.

I agree with this. I'm not into OSR, but I enjoy plenty of traditional gaming along with various story games. Personally, I don't let an author's political rants dictate whether I play their game or not.

Authors should be free to write whatever they want, and players can do whatever they want with their games once they buy them.

If someone writes a political rant that conflicts with mine, that's their right. I can still buy their book, and play it however the hell I want.

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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2021, 01:42:03 AM »
Let me start off by saying that I did some searching but couldn't find any references to this.

I had recently seen the game Thousand Year Old Vampire popping up in a few of the solo rpg channels I follow on youtube.  I went and checked it out on drivethrurpg, but saw that a better print option may be available elsewhere.  So I went and found the game's homepage and was immediately presented with this at the top:

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If you are a supporter of the near or far right I am going to ask that you not buy my games. I don't want your money, but more importantly I don't want you to feel comfortable enjoying things produced by the people and systems you want to destroy. I don't want bad people playing my games–and that includes folks who are willing to look the other way while braver bigots perform their hateful work.

Yes this means members of cartoonishly evil hate groups, but it also specifically includes Trump supporters and those Republicans who voted for Trump. You are lobbying for the death of my friends and relations, you are pushing for dangerous authoritarians to destroy the systems that let books like mine come to be. And this goes for equivalent groups outside the US–you know who you are.

People who make art and beauty and fun almost universally revile you and it's time you started to feel that. You aren't welcome here, you don't get to play with my things. Shoo.

Aside from some obvious virtue signaling, which certainly isn't uncommon, this rather floored me. Who tells people not to buy their product?!  Is this more common than I realize?

More common than you'd think, it has years happening in comic books, and in RPGs, movies, tv shows and other entertainment. Also ignore This Guy he's a troll and a lunatic that agrees with that kinda feeling.
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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2021, 09:04:57 AM »
Geeky is obviously correct that you should ignore me even when I'm saying correct things and deffo you should restrict your creative instincts and water your shit down for the markets. Only produce and consume diluted shit, never from concentrate.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2021, 10:15:38 AM »
Here's an example of a condensed, less journal-writing, way of playing the game. It's illustrated as well: https://twitter.com/dog_blink/status/1377786943962902529.

The author is still deluded about "the right", but the example of play was fun I thought.

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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2021, 06:17:32 PM »
Geeky is obviously correct that you should ignore me even when I'm saying correct things and deffo you should restrict your creative instincts and water your shit down for the markets. Only produce and consume diluted shit, never from concentrate.

Luckily I have not had to ignore you for saying correct things yet but I am sure it will happen any day now.

Any day.
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2021, 06:20:41 PM »
Geeky is obviously correct that you should ignore me even when I'm saying correct things and deffo you should restrict your creative instincts and water your shit down for the markets. Only produce and consume diluted shit, never from concentrate.

Luckily I have not had to ignore you for saying correct things yet but I am sure it will happen any day now.

Any day.

This many days since I've had to ignore This Guy for saying Correct Things: 0
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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2021, 05:29:19 AM »
Geeky is obviously correct that you should ignore me even when I'm saying correct things and deffo you should restrict your creative instincts and water your shit down for the markets. Only produce and consume diluted shit, never from concentrate.

Luckily I have not had to ignore you for saying correct things yet but I am sure it will happen any day now.

Any day.

This many days since I've had to ignore This Guy for saying Correct Things: 0

I was hoping this was the day it would finally tick over to 1 but alas.
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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2021, 10:42:03 AM »

I agree with this. I'm not into OSR, but I enjoy plenty of traditional gaming along with various story games. Personally, I don't let an author's political rants dictate whether I play their game or not.

Authors should be free to write whatever they want, and players can do whatever they want with their games once they buy them.

If someone writes a political rant that conflicts with mine, that's their right. I can still buy their book, and play it however the hell I want.

Yes, I believe they should be able to say what they want, but I don't have to pay them to say it. People often complain about shit companies like Disney, but then continue to give them money, or even just torrent their movies/shows, but I think even torrenting is a form of approval that they see and use to tell themselves they're doing the right thing.

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Re: Thousand Year Old Wokepire
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2021, 09:48:51 AM »


More common than you'd think, it has years happening in comic books, and in RPGs, movies, tv shows and other entertainment. .....

The RPG community was actually the first area where I noticed that it had gone from “just liberal” to insane places. Around 2010 I believe. Anyone remember Heartbreak & Heroines?

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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2021, 11:15:55 AM »


More common than you'd think, it has years happening in comic books, and in RPGs, movies, tv shows and other entertainment. .....

The RPG community was actually the first area where I noticed that it had gone from “just liberal” to insane places. Around 2010 I believe. Anyone remember Heartbreak & Heroines?

No, I don't. It makes sense tho, after all the femynid invasion of RPGs was underway back when the satanic panic was in full swing.
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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2021, 11:23:20 AM »
....... after all the femynid invasion of RPGs was underway back when the satanic panic was in full swing.

Oh? Any stories to tell?

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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2021, 11:40:48 AM »
....... after all the femynid invasion of RPGs was underway back when the satanic panic was in full swing.

Oh? Any stories to tell?

Not really, unless you consider a story my telling you there were already feminist articles in the TSR magazine (Dragon?) back then, don't remember exactly which issue tho, something about chainmail bikinis, and one more my brain is farting and won't let me remember what it was about.
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