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« Reply #150 on: July 26, 2010, 03:09:03 PM »
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...and then there's this news :

Oliver Stone fits the OP of the thread and competes with Mel gibson in the career-killing race:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/25/oliver-stone-jewish-dominated-media-prevents-hitler-being-portrayed-c#ixzz=

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Had a look at that website, and the first thing (And I do mean "thing") I saw was ann coulter.

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« Reply #151 on: July 26, 2010, 03:34:37 PM »
Cy, honey, the story is from the Sunday Times, just reposted on the site that Edward linked to. You'd know that if you weren't obsessed with attacking the messenger instead of reading the story. I mean, I know its hard to read so deeply into the right-wing agitprop to find out the attribution and all, so I can't blame you for not being able to wade through the first half of the first sentence to find that out. Thankfully, there are those of us willing to risk our sanity to find out the truth. Maybe you'll be that strong someday as well.


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« Reply #152 on: July 26, 2010, 04:03:46 PM »
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As long as people have food, internet access, and American Idol, all will be at peace. The Romans knew this, and Washington knows it.


Bingo!

Revolutions don't happen with full tummies and glazed eyes.

Cut off electricity and food for a week in the USA and we'll make Iraq's worst unrest look like a Victorian tea party.

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« Reply #153 on: July 26, 2010, 06:02:54 PM »
Same basic story, different source. In this case the American Jewish Committee is condemning Stone and making a comment or two:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100726/pl_usnw/DC40859

But yeah When I saw the earlier article I remembered the opening blog rant/thread start that Pundit posted here. Oliver Stone has been in the news recently for documentary film work in connection with Hugo Chavez.


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« Reply #154 on: July 26, 2010, 06:27:44 PM »
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As long as people have food, internet access, and American Idol, all will be at peace. The Romans knew this, and Washington knows it.



Dude! this is excellent news! The way North America is going, all those three items will soon be quite rare and at a premium.

Shit, Big O and his Washington gang have already begun their first stage of destroying free internet acess; 40,000,000 of your citizens need a fucking stamp to be able to eat, and I guess cable TV is hard to get when your home has been foreclosed.


The outlook for the maintnance of that "peace" seems; "Not So Good".
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« Reply #155 on: July 26, 2010, 07:58:33 PM »
THIS IS THE BEST THREAD EVER:rotfl:

Lurker reporting in as disappointed Democrat:
I felt I voted for the lesser of 2 evils in 2008 - and remembered back then his support for militarism along the Af-Pak border.
On the other hand, the alternative was someone who thought war with Iran was a good idea...and let's not talk about his likely successor.

I'll go along with recent comments regarding the issues with concentrating power, whether government or corporate. Problem is, large numbers of people have historically required large institutions to keep them from anarchy. And there are a lot of people around nowadays.
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« Reply #156 on: July 27, 2010, 12:02:17 AM »
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Cy, honey, the story is from the Sunday Times, just reposted on the site that Edward linked to. You'd know that if you weren't obsessed with attacking the messenger instead of reading the story. I mean, I know its hard to read so deeply into the right-wing agitprop to find out the attribution and all, so I can't blame you for not being able to wade through the first half of the first sentence to find that out. Thankfully, there are those of us willing to risk our sanity to find out the truth. Maybe you'll be that strong someday as well.

I wasn't able to access the actual Sunday Times interview, though - it required a subscription.  

It certainly seemed to me that the NewsBusters article is not actually a reproduction of the Times interview, but rather a commentary on that interview - pulling out selected quotes at times and at other times describing the interview in its own words.  

Is there a place where the interview itself is available without a subscription?  I expect there will be plenty to damn Oliver Stone in the actual interview, but it would be fine to see.

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« Reply #157 on: July 27, 2010, 09:41:28 AM »
Here - be careful, this is another well-known right-wing rag, so you might not be able to trust it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/movies/27arts-OLIVERSTONEC_BRF.html?src=mv
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« Reply #158 on: July 27, 2010, 11:29:20 AM »
Several sources have mentioned the paywall of the Sunday Times - that hasn't stopped those press sources from repeating what was said in the interview. The parent companies or owners of these other papers and networkd pay the fee automatically to see what the Times is saying.


From that 'conservative' web site the Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/26/oliver-stone-jewish-domin_n_659795.html

The story at TVguide:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Oliver-Stone-Criticized-1020999.aspx?rss=breakingnews&partnerid=imdb&profileid=01

From E! Entertainment's website:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b192348_oliver_stone_apologizes_pulling_mel.html?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=imdb_tv-movies

Oliver Stone, late in the day had issued an apology for his remarks. Looks like either his publicist or lawyer had a talk with him. (or maybe a publicist?)

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« Reply #159 on: July 27, 2010, 04:41:39 PM »
Man I hate the current level of discourse on anything in the US or the West in general.  We get everyone talking about how offensive what Stone said, and what kind of apology he is going to give, as well as all his dubious connections...but no one ever addresses the core question.  

Is he right?  Is there anything to what he is saying?  Sure, he's probably full of shit, but does anyone even stop to think about what is actually being said anymore?

Celebrity A says X, Y group is offended, Celebrity A retracts X.
replace Celebrity A, X, and Y, then re-solve.

A lot of people toss out the buzzword "existential threat".  I think the only real existential threat to Western Democracy is corporate media run for profit.
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« Reply #160 on: July 27, 2010, 04:45:37 PM »
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A lot of people toss out the buzzword "existential threat".  I think the only real existential threat to Western Democracy is corporate media run for profit.


Then the answer is simple:  Stop giving a shit about corporate media.

I did...ages ago. I get my information elsewhere.
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« Reply #161 on: July 27, 2010, 08:46:25 PM »
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Then the answer is simple:  Stop giving a shit about corporate media.

I did...ages ago. I get my information elsewhere.


This.  YouTube alone has plenty of viable outlets.  Reacquaint yourself with the old media discernment skills of yesteryear and start staking out your own media sources.  Learn to triangulate your sources to suss out the truth, and be wary of what narratives get pushed.
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« Reply #162 on: July 28, 2010, 05:59:52 PM »
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...and be wary of what narratives get pushed.
And be wary of seeking out narratives that confirm your own opinions.

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