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The Virtues of D20

Started by RPGPundit, October 02, 2006, 03:16:13 PM

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ColonelHardisson

#30
October 16, 2006, 03:12:25 PM
Quote from: droogI'm 42, married with a child, work 30-40 hours a week, never have enough time to do all the things I want to do, but I still like to learn new games.

It's not a matter of disliking to learn new games. It's a matter of what I like more, learning or playing. I like playing more. Sure, I could learn all kinds of new games, but I'd rarely get to play.
"Illegitimis non carborundum." - General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell

4e definitely has an Old School feel. If you disagree, cool. I won\'t throw any hyperbole out to prove the point.

JongWK

#31
October 16, 2006, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Caesar SlaadReally? Who was it? My RPGnet visits have been brief these days... must have missed that one.

Don't worry, the thread is from August.
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Caesar Slaad

#32
October 16, 2006, 03:23:57 PM
Quote from: droogI'm 42, married with a child, work 30-40 hours a week, never have enough time to do all the things I want to do, but I still like to learn new games.

By contrast, I'm nearing that age, have kids, but simply don't have the interest. I'm not so much interested in the "meta-hobby" of learning new game. It just doesn't excite me that much anymore. I'm more about playing than learning new games. So people who come on with the old "yer too lazy to learn new systems" usually earn an earful from me.
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droog

#33
October 17, 2006, 04:28:21 AM
I'm not saying anybody's too 'lazy'. I'm saying that the 'I-don't-have-time' thing is a little weak.
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Imperator

#34
October 17, 2006, 05:16:17 AM
Quote from: JongWKJust because it needs to be posted:

"The point is, ladies and gentleman, is that D20 - for lack of a better word - is good. D20 is right. D20 works. D20 clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the roleplaying spirit. D20, in all of its forms - greed for life, for money, for XP, knowledge - has marked the upward surge of mankind. And D20 - you mark my words - will not only save Wizards of the Coast but that other malfunctioning group called 'roleplaying'."



:D

I bow to you, Jong. Really, really good.
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ColonelHardisson

#35
October 17, 2006, 10:06:17 AM
Quote from: droogI'm not saying anybody's too 'lazy'. I'm saying that the 'I-don't-have-time' thing is a little weak.

Unless you have some supernatural insight into how everyone else's life is going, there's no way you can pass such a judgment. Why the fuck should I spend time doing something that I find less enjoyable than another activity when I have limited time? Why shouldn't I maximize my enjoyment of my hobbies? For fuck's sake. Hell, I could just as easily say that the "I have time to have a full life, play my RPG of choice on a regular basis, and learn new games on a daily/weekly basis" stuff smells like bullshit.
"Illegitimis non carborundum." - General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell

4e definitely has an Old School feel. If you disagree, cool. I won\'t throw any hyperbole out to prove the point.

droog

#36
October 17, 2006, 10:12:51 AM
Quote from: ColonelHardissonUnless you have some supernatural insight into how everyone else's life is going, there's no way you can pass such a judgment. Why the fuck should I spend time doing something that I find less enjoyable than another activity when I have limited time? Why shouldn't I maximize my enjoyment of my hobbies? For fuck's sake. Hell, I could just as easily say that the "I have time to have a full life, play my RPG of choice on a regular basis, and learn new games on a daily/weekly basis" stuff smells like bullshit.
I never said you should spend your time doing anything in particular, in fact, Colonel. If I'm allowed to not like D&D (and sometimes I wonder), you are certainly entitled to play nothing else.
The past lives on in your front room
The poor still weak the rich still rule
History lives in the books at home
The books at home

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ColonelHardisson

#37
October 17, 2006, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: droogI never said you should spend your time doing anything in particular, in fact, Colonel. If I'm allowed to not like D&D (and sometimes I wonder), you are certainly entitled to play nothing else.

But, as I've said countless times, I don't just play D&D only. I've learned plenty of games over the years, especially back when I was a teen and in my early 20s. Nowadays, the time I have to enjoy myself is more limited, and I'd prefer to spend that time playing rather than plowing through a new rules-set. Even with that said, I still try out new games, but the notion that some look down their noses at people who don't allocate a major portion of their time to learning new games irritates the piss out of me. Well, not really, but it irritates me about as much as anything else on the internet.
"Illegitimis non carborundum." - General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell

4e definitely has an Old School feel. If you disagree, cool. I won\'t throw any hyperbole out to prove the point.

droog

#38
October 17, 2006, 10:34:50 AM
Quote from: ColonelHardissonEven with that said, I still try out new games, but the notion that some look down their noses at people who don't allocate a major portion of their time to learning new games irritates the piss out of me.
If you think I'm looking down my nose, you're wrong. Well, perhaps literally I am, since I'm typing on a laptop at a desk.
The past lives on in your front room
The poor still weak the rich still rule
History lives in the books at home
The books at home

Gang of Four
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Caesar Slaad

#39
October 17, 2006, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: droogI'm not saying anybody's too 'lazy'. I'm saying that the 'I-don't-have-time' thing is a little weak.

Eh. I'm not seeing a huge distinction. I don't say I don't "have" time. I say it's not worth my time. If I'd rather wath Alias reruns or play with my toddler than invest every waking moment learning new games, then that's my choice, and a perfectly valid one when it comes to managing my time around a leisure activity. It's my judgement, not yours.
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