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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2016, 12:55:43 PM »
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I want you to stop being a self-righteous jackass, yes. You're the kind of person that gives atheism a bad name, and your obsession with other peoples' spiritual beliefs is getting tiresome.

Obsession?
No.


I'm not being self-righteous.  
I am laughing at the rpgpundit persona who loves a soapbox.  he wants us to take him seriously when he professes to believe magic is real.

Just think, had kept your mouth shut about believing magic to be real you wouldn't be eliciting the same derision that he gets.
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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2016, 07:21:34 PM »
I expect you would profer similar If he said Jesus, Budda, Yaweh, Allah, or Krishna was real and empowered his life in some manner.

For myself, I would say the term "magic" is far too broad for me to define it as real or not.  I remain unconvinced yet I can accept that others believe in it and that it is indeed central to their beliefs and self identification.

So, even those who believe in telephone psychics or that they are really spirit wolves are not fully laughable to my mind.

Because, when it comes to anyone's inner life, that kind of disdain seems wholly despicable.
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2016, 07:30:08 PM »
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Not sure what the forge really had to do with it. I mean really? A niche, of a niche, of a niche hobby destroyed the hobbies biggest name? Shenannigans to that. WotC didn't really need help fucking things up (I'm looking at you 4E). Maybe you you did have a big effect, maybe you didn't. I don't really care either way. But put away the trumpet Pundy, the tooting of the horn is so loud.


A number of people involved with D&D during the creation of 4e were huge admirers of the Forge and GNS theory.  4E is almost PRECISELY the way Forge theory says D&D "ought to be" so that it is no longer "incoherent".  It's precisely what they prescribed as the way D&D could be made better.

Of course, taking advice on how to make a thing better by people who utterly despise said thing is a moronic idea. But there you go.

When 4e came out I noted that it was in fact the Forge-inspired version of D&D, and that as a result of going this way, WoTC would lose 2/3rds of D&D's customer base.   That's almost exactly  what happened.  That's why next time around, instead of trying to follow GNS theory, they hired me.
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« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2016, 07:32:51 PM »
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Thank you.



Now you are going down into semantics rather than focusing on the context. When Pundit, as he often does, use cocksucker as an insult that would not be in praise of any who enjoy the activity.

When I do use the word 'cocksucker', it's usually in reference to the type of person who doesn't actually like sucking cock, but will suck a cock if they think it will get them something, usually virtue/fame/power-by-association, or praise, or just the idea that by sucking certain cock you are somehow above other people who you imagine to be unworthy of sucking cock.

Your attempt at slandering me with the notion that this is homophobic is pretty fucking moronic. I mean, I call way more people cunts than cocksuckers, and I happen to quite like literal cunts.
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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2016, 07:35:21 PM »
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You can dish it out, but you can't take it. You resort to schoolyard slurs against any who question your overblown ego. You have a twisted view of the world, no better than a paranoid. And that is not even right because that would be an insult to paranoids everywhere.


You resort to trying to slander people using the virtue-signalling of the day, which shows what a shit-eating worm you are.
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2016, 07:35:58 PM »
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Come on, he just admitted to having to work 'teh real world magicks' on WotC in order to get them to hire him on as a consultant.


I did what??
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2016, 07:39:07 PM »
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Thanks for saying that man. I admit I was in an agitated state when I wrote the initial messages.

I've been pretty pissed at Pundit since he called my family Nazi collaborators. That shit made my blood boil, and sometimes I just go overboard.


I didn't call your family Nazi collaborators. I called your entire fucking country nazi collaborators, and insinuated that you would have been one too had you lived in the era. Nothing you have done since has helped to alter that view. You're always ready to make excuses for totalitarianism.


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While I have my disagreements with the Pundit, I still retain that knocking a person's spiritual beliefs is wrong. I still do find the whole 'I saved D&D!' shtick a little tiring too.


I don't have any spiritual beliefs. I have spiritual practices, and spiritual convictions based on experience. "Spiritual Belief" is for people who want to comfort themselves with an idea that they've made no actual investigation of, to avoid actual growth.
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2016, 07:44:25 PM »
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You can cast Charm Person? That's awesome! It's probably the D&D low-level spell that'd be most useful in the real world.

I didn't need to. The 'draw up a circle with barbarous names and start summoning something up' part of magic is just the extreme end of practice. The much more important part are the daily exercises in concentration, meditation, and general consciousness-enhancing.Do those consistently, and the stuff most people imagine as 'magic' only has to be done in cases of emergency. Fail to do that, and the 'magic' part of it won't work anyway.

Magic is about cultivating the true Will. Every amazing thing that has happened in my life is thanks to that cultivation.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2016, 07:47:44 PM »
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Honestly, Pundit-

I'm glad you don't work for WotC.  There's way too many people in the outrage brigade that will do their best to get you fired if you displease them with your opinions.  Like I told some folk, I worked with a guy who is a Doctor that had to quit because the local outrage brigade didn't like his opinions on certain things.


That's what this thread is about: they DID try to 'fire me', after I no longer worked there.  The Regressive Outrage Brigade are morons.  It's not the first time they've done that sort of thing with an RPG author, either.
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2016, 07:57:59 PM »
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The real reason Pundejo doesn't work for Wizards is that they're not real wizards like himself, and he doesn't mingle with Muggles.


Ha! It's funny, because this is the first time I thought of the humor of how for at least a little while, there was a real wizard working for Wizards of the Coast.

Mind you, it being Seattle, and gaming, there's probably a bunch of Wiccans who work there too. Of course, 90% of those have never actually done anything resembling magick.

But as for the 'muggles' thing, there's definitely a current of exclusivity in occultism, but I'm the least excluding magician around. I want people to understand functional occultism, and would love for everyone to try it. I also understand why the enormous pile of crap and nonsense associated with occult movements can make some people skeptical.  I'm the opposite of a 'fuck the muggles' type, I'm an evangelist.
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2016, 08:00:37 PM »
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Is 'cocksucker' generally considered a homophobic insult? I'd never thought of it that way...


It's only that when you have no decent arguments and so are resorting to trying to insinuate your opponent is a homophobe with the notion that this will somehow magically make him wrong and you right. Never in any other case.

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not that's really in my repertoire, but I always took it as a ruder synonym of 'sycophant'.


Yup.
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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2016, 08:05:16 PM »
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So, even those who believe in telephone psychics or that they are really spirit wolves are not fully laughable to my mind.



They are in mine.

As are the laughable imbeciles who try to pretend they're rationalist when they're really just "hurp derp derp Dawkins said so and I hated sunday school derp derp" like Sommerjon.  They're extra funny; because the tarot-card and spirit-wolf people are wrongly thinking that they're being 'super spiritual' when they're really doing it wrong, but mental defectives like Sommerjon think they're NOT being spiritual when literally everyone else can tell they're being religious fanatics.
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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2016, 08:18:35 PM »
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They are in mine.

As are the laughable imbeciles who try to pretend they're rationalist when they're really just "hurp derp derp Dawkins said so and I hated sunday school derp derp" like Sommerjon.  They're extra funny; because the tarot-card and spirit-wolf people are wrongly thinking that they're being 'super spiritual' when they're really doing it wrong, but mental defectives like Sommerjon think they're NOT being spiritual when literally everyone else can tell they're being religious fanatics.

And yet you can offer no more evidence for your beliefs than they can for theirs.

I respect that you've done the work, the research, and have stood up and declared your position as an authority on real magic.

But in the end the pope and the Dali Lama are in no better position than you are.

People believe the things they believe for the reasons they believe them.

Outside of the physical sciences we're all in the same boat there.

Sure I believe they are wrong, as you do, but not necessarily worthy of derision and mockery.
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« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2016, 02:24:13 AM »
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I didn't call your family Nazi collaborators. I called your entire fucking country nazi collaborators, and insinuated that you would have been one too had you lived in the era. Nothing you have done since has helped to alter that view. You're always ready to make excuses for totalitarianism.

I'm pro EU. That's literally all you have 'evidence' to suggest that I am pro-totalitarianism. You are factually wrong yet again, you just refuse to admit it because you have built up a cozy little nest of fringe-theories and alt-right politics where you can always be right and everybody else wrong. You harp endlessly on the evils of SJW-leftism and their skewed perceptions on politics while being no different yourself.

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« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2016, 06:18:03 AM »
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And yet you can offer no more evidence for your beliefs than they can for theirs.

I respect that you've done the work, the research, and have stood up and declared your position as an authority on real magic.

But in the end the pope and the Dali Lama are in no better position than you are.

People believe the things they believe for the reasons they believe them.

Outside of the physical sciences we're all in the same boat there.

Sure I believe they are wrong, as you do, but not necessarily worthy of derision and mockery.


Popes say "you must believe".

I say "try it and see for yourself".
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