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The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« on: July 17, 2022, 12:39:11 PM »
An excellent article examining the utter shame and weakness behind Americans' moronic response to the laughable COVID-19 Shamdemic. May all who pushed the Covidiot nonsense suffer endlessly for their crimes against humanity, in this world and the next. 
https://noqreport.com/2022/07/17/the-lockdowns-unearthed-american-cultural-rot/




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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2022, 05:55:08 PM »
It makes me wonder if Mark Oshinskie has ever met real people before?
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2022, 06:43:18 PM »
That's your idea of an excellent article, but it looks like a load of hyped-up shit to me. There are some points in it I can agree with, but the presentation is meant more to entertain than to inform. Hilariously, it's an example of the same bullshit it claims is the problem.

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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2022, 08:44:54 PM »
An excellent article examining the utter shame and weakness behind Americans' moronic response to the laughable COVID-19 Shamdemic. May all who pushed the Covidiot nonsense suffer endlessly for their crimes against humanity, in this world and the next. 
https://noqreport.com/2022/07/17/the-lockdowns-unearthed-american-cultural-rot/

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An excellent article, brother! The article is spot-on with everything. America is full of fat, helpless, frightened sheep that expect and demand that everyone else bow the fuck down and conform to their pathetic herd. All the smarmy, cock-sucking Liberals so shrill and eager to lick the boot of the authoritarians in power, while gleefully fearmongering, shaming, and persecuting the brave few that had the courage to stand up and question the whole bullshit narrative.

Fucking sad and pathetic.

Fantastic article. The author zeroed-in on the entire mountain of huge cultural shit, corruption, weakness, and cowardice that our nation has become.

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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2022, 09:25:42 PM »
I appreciate the point, but it seems the author could have gone through the article and replaced "Americans" with "humans in general" and it would still have been mostly true. And while some of it may come from cultural rot -- I do think that the functional adoption of materialism in the West has destroyed much of our culture's taste for risk -- other things are, I think, just inherent to human nature. Most humans are, and always have been, tribalist, peer-influenced, prone to privilege groupthink over critical analysis, and deeply reluctant to admit mistakes, especially if that will make them look foolish or cost them status or power.

I'm something of the reverse of the old Peanuts joke; I have a very high opinion of most individual people I've known -- it's humanity in general I look down on. (Myself included.)
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2022, 12:39:53 AM »
I appreciate the point, but it seems the author could have gone through the article and replaced "Americans" with "humans in general" and it would still have been mostly true. And while some of it may come from cultural rot -- I do think that the functional adoption of materialism in the West has destroyed much of our culture's taste for risk -- other things are, I think, just inherent to human nature. Most humans are, and always have been, tribalist, peer-influenced, prone to privilege groupthink over critical analysis, and deeply reluctant to admit mistakes, especially if that will make them look foolish or cost them status or power.

I'm something of the reverse of the old Peanuts joke; I have a very high opinion of most individual people I've known -- it's humanity in general I look down on. (Myself included.)

I agree. America didn't have a monopoly on reacting poorly to Covid.

I guess the one silver lining about the Covid response is that my opinion of mankind can't get any lower. We are one bad day away from becoming rampaging chimps.
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2022, 08:19:03 AM »
The article is not meant to entertain, it is meant to propagandize.  Propaganda can be telling the truth and just injecting a load of emotional content to invoke a reaction, and that article is most definitely propaganda.  I do not mind it as the "other side" is non stop propaganda will outright lies wrapped into it, that guy at least was respectful enough to just exaggerate and soapbox and did not spew outright lies.  Either way, all articles and information sources are more and more becoming propaganda, where the people putting it out do not care to tell you what happened, they are telling you how to feel and react to what happened.   Just another day in Rome IMO.

   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2022, 10:40:29 AM »
The article is not meant to entertain, it is meant to propagandize.  Propaganda can be telling the truth and just injecting a load of emotional content to invoke a reaction, and that article is most definitely propaganda.  I do not mind it as the "other side" is non stop propaganda will outright lies wrapped into it, that guy at least was respectful enough to just exaggerate and soapbox and did not spew outright lies.  Either way, all articles and information sources are more and more becoming propaganda, where the people putting it out do not care to tell you what happened, they are telling you how to feel and react to what happened.   Just another day in Rome IMO.

   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

You either appeal to human emotion or you'll loose, humans aren't logical, they operate on emotion and post hoc ergo hoc find a logical (sometimes "logical") way to support their positions.

So, to combat lies laced propaganda you can't use just facts and logic (sorry Ben Shappiro) because emotion trumps logic. You need to create emotion laced propaganda to promote the facts.
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2022, 01:38:09 PM »
   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

Dunno when you think that "today" starts, but during the Spanish Flu Americans looked down at that virus with the same derision and got between 500,000 and 850,000 deaths when the US population was around 105 millions (congratulations to current US for having obtained the "1,000,000 dead from COVID!" achievement, BTW).

I think that the author of this "excellent article" will get a Herman Cain Award. The article itself is not entirely truthful, but is is a good example of "accuse the other of what you are doing".

Many Americans have shown that they’re gullible group-thinkers who lack critical thinking skills.

True, and this article is written for them. Nowhere, for example, is even debated the concept of "long COVID" or even "every bed and every ICU unit occupied by someone with COVID are denied to someone with other afflictions; same with the doctor's time." I guess that the answer would be "COVID was never that dangerous (God told me so)."

But why should I spend time deriding debunking an article that declares...

Americans have no tolerance for rational discourse.

Americans are headline readers of cheesy and plainly biased news sources, and they readily internalize slogans and labels.

Americans lack basic pattern recognition and an awareness of history or basic science.


And the glorious closure...

Americans are unwilling to admit they were wrong.

...When I agree with all the above? I even agree with:

If 18th Century Americas were as timid as today’s Americans, British monarchs would still rule us.

...As in "18th Century Americas" ships were quarantined even if germs hadn't been discovered. Saner minds for sure.

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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2022, 05:00:08 PM »
   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

Dunno when you think that "today" starts, but during the Spanish Flu Americans looked down at that virus with the same derision and got between 500,000 and 850,000 deaths when the US population was around 105 millions (congratulations to current US for having obtained the "1,000,000 dead from COVID!" achievement, BTW).

I think that the author of this "excellent article" will get a Herman Cain Award. The article itself is not entirely truthful, but is is a good example of "accuse the other of what you are doing".

Many Americans have shown that they’re gullible group-thinkers who lack critical thinking skills.

True, and this article is written for them. Nowhere, for example, is even debated the concept of "long COVID" or even "every bed and every ICU unit occupied by someone with COVID are denied to someone with other afflictions; same with the doctor's time." I guess that the answer would be "COVID was never that dangerous (God told me so)."

But why should I spend time deriding debunking an article that declares...

Americans have no tolerance for rational discourse.

Americans are headline readers of cheesy and plainly biased news sources, and they readily internalize slogans and labels.

Americans lack basic pattern recognition and an awareness of history or basic science.


And the glorious closure...

Americans are unwilling to admit they were wrong.

...When I agree with all the above? I even agree with:

If 18th Century Americas were as timid as today’s Americans, British monarchs would still rule us.

...As in "18th Century Americas" ships were quarantined even if germs hadn't been discovered. Saner minds for sure.

 Spanish Flu and Covid are NO WHERE CLOSE IN LETHALITY.    If you fear it, hit those shots, get a respirator and carry on. 

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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 05:40:52 PM »
   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

Dunno when you think that "today" starts, but during the Spanish Flu Americans looked down at that virus with the same derision and got between 500,000 and 850,000 deaths when the US population was around 105 millions (congratulations to current US for having obtained the "1,000,000 dead from COVID!" achievement, BTW).

Remember the time when the Wuhan Flu was so devastating the USA that CNN was using video of overflowing hospitals in Italy to show how bad it was.
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 06:02:02 PM »
   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

Dunno when you think that "today" starts, but during the Spanish Flu Americans looked down at that virus with the same derision and got between 500,000 and 850,000 deaths when the US population was around 105 millions (congratulations to current US for having obtained the "1,000,000 dead from COVID!" achievement, BTW).

I think that the author of this "excellent article" will get a Herman Cain Award. The article itself is not entirely truthful, but is is a good example of "accuse the other of what you are doing".

Many Americans have shown that they’re gullible group-thinkers who lack critical thinking skills.

True, and this article is written for them. Nowhere, for example, is even debated the concept of "long COVID" or even "every bed and every ICU unit occupied by someone with COVID are denied to someone with other afflictions; same with the doctor's time." I guess that the answer would be "COVID was never that dangerous (God told me so)."

But why should I spend time deriding debunking an article that declares...

Americans have no tolerance for rational discourse.

Americans are headline readers of cheesy and plainly biased news sources, and they readily internalize slogans and labels.

Americans lack basic pattern recognition and an awareness of history or basic science.


And the glorious closure...

Americans are unwilling to admit they were wrong.

...When I agree with all the above? I even agree with:

If 18th Century Americas were as timid as today’s Americans, British monarchs would still rule us.

...As in "18th Century Americas" ships were quarantined even if germs hadn't been discovered. Saner minds for sure.

 Spanish Flu and Covid are NO WHERE CLOSE IN LETHALITY.

Luckily so: given that Americans (not all of them, of course) are showing the very same same strain of stupidity that we saw with the Spanish Flu, a variant of COVID with the same lethality would have caused by now between 1,750,000 and 2,800,000 dead - not "only" 1,000,000 (while still generating articles as moronic as the one we saw).

I never understood what the cutoff for the US is before people start to say "You know? Maybe this bug is a bit on the strong side". 1,500,000 dead? 2,000,000? 5,000,000? Just to know. Because either COVID will decrease in strength naturally or the States will get there.
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2022, 07:41:33 PM »
Original strain was pretty scary, also letal. For someone who was closely watching the news, I can see how most would get sucked down the rabbit hole. The media made it seem like the world was coming to an end. If you live in rural America and don’t have a lot of contact with real people then you’re likely most vulnerable. Reminded me a lot of the radio show from back in the days when they roleplayed an alien invasion and people began to freak out.
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Re: The Lockdowns Unearthed American Cultural Rot
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 08:06:56 PM »
Reminded me a lot of the radio show from back in the days when they roleplayed an alien invasion and people began to freak out.

It was 2 people that freaked out.

But that does not make a good story.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2022, 11:54:04 PM »
   I think he harped on Americans because the spirit of the founding of the USA was not weaklings screeching about a virus with masks on, it was people going out to the middle of nowhere, cutting down trees and establishing a life with family and burying their dead as they went.  People today are a long fucking ways from that.

Dunno when you think that "today" starts, but during the Spanish Flu Americans looked down at that virus with the same derision and got between 500,000 and 850,000 deaths when the US population was around 105 millions (congratulations to current US for having obtained the "1,000,000 dead from COVID!" achievement, BTW).

I think that the author of this "excellent article" will get a Herman Cain Award. The article itself is not entirely truthful, but is is a good example of "accuse the other of what you are doing".

Many Americans have shown that they’re gullible group-thinkers who lack critical thinking skills.

True, and this article is written for them. Nowhere, for example, is even debated the concept of "long COVID" or even "every bed and every ICU unit occupied by someone with COVID are denied to someone with other afflictions; same with the doctor's time." I guess that the answer would be "COVID was never that dangerous (God told me so)."

But why should I spend time deriding debunking an article that declares...

Americans have no tolerance for rational discourse.

Americans are headline readers of cheesy and plainly biased news sources, and they readily internalize slogans and labels.

Americans lack basic pattern recognition and an awareness of history or basic science.


And the glorious closure...

Americans are unwilling to admit they were wrong.

...When I agree with all the above? I even agree with:

If 18th Century Americas were as timid as today’s Americans, British monarchs would still rule us.

...As in "18th Century Americas" ships were quarantined even if germs hadn't been discovered. Saner minds for sure.

 Spanish Flu and Covid are NO WHERE CLOSE IN LETHALITY.

Luckily so: given that Americans (not all of them, of course) are showing the very same same strain of stupidity that we saw with the Spanish Flu, a variant of COVID with the same lethality would have caused by now between 1,750,000 and 2,800,000 dead - not "only" 1,000,000 (while still generating articles as moronic as the one we saw).

I never understood what the cutoff for the US is before people start to say "You know? Maybe this bug is a bit on the strong side". 1,500,000 dead? 2,000,000? 5,000,000? Just to know. Because either COVID will decrease in strength naturally or the States will get there.

     If people were as fat, unhealthy and old when the spanish flu ran through the kill count would have been much higher in the USA then.  If the USA had some semblance of a real national awareness towards fitness and health, the death toll would have been much, much lower from covid.