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Author Topic: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM  (Read 7332 times)

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2022, 08:09:11 AM »
Oh, that article is a gem.  "Settler Colonialism"?  A fancy term for the reality of world history.  Just one look at this dummy's credentials says it all.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2022, 08:23:18 AM »


And yes, it's real:
https://archive.ph/vegSa

The "sentence" you highlight isn't even a sentence. In fact, the whole opinion piece fails to develop, support, or even really articulate, a thesis. I hope this isn't what passes for scholarly writing among grad students at the University of Pennsylvania (but rather afraid it might be).

Anyway, based on this piece, it's rather hard to say what this student's own point is, let alone what some broader "Left" might be "giving up on."


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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2022, 10:18:43 AM »


And yes, it's real:
https://archive.ph/vegSa

The "sentence" you highlight isn't even a sentence. In fact, the whole opinion piece fails to develop, support, or even really articulate, a thesis. I hope this isn't what passes for scholarly writing among grad students at the University of Pennsylvania (but rather afraid it might be).

Anyway, based on this piece, it's rather hard to say what this student's own point is, let alone what some broader "Left" might be "giving up on."
It is a sentence. Taking out the unnecessary phrases, you still have "[The] belief is [a] component" which satisfies the requirements of a sentence.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2022, 10:40:00 AM »


And yes, it's real:
https://archive.ph/vegSa

The "sentence" you highlight isn't even a sentence. In fact, the whole opinion piece fails to develop, support, or even really articulate, a thesis. I hope this isn't what passes for scholarly writing among grad students at the University of Pennsylvania (but rather afraid it might be).

Anyway, based on this piece, it's rather hard to say what this student's own point is, let alone what some broader "Left" might be "giving up on."
It is a sentence. Taking out the unnecessary phrases, you still have "[The] belief is [a] component" which satisfies the requirements of a sentence.

Not as written. Even though it happens to contain a verb, the entire passage is just a noun phrase. It is a subject, but it needs more than just a subject to make it a sentence.

It is quite possible that she meant to say "The belief in one’s entitlement to freedom is a key component of White supremacy." That would be a sentence. However, the " that" turns it into a noun phrase.


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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2022, 10:54:49 AM »


And yes, it's real:
https://archive.ph/vegSa

The "sentence" you highlight isn't even a sentence. In fact, the whole opinion piece fails to develop, support, or even really articulate, a thesis. I hope this isn't what passes for scholarly writing among grad students at the University of Pennsylvania (but rather afraid it might be).

Anyway, based on this piece, it's rather hard to say what this student's own point is, let alone what some broader "Left" might be "giving up on."

Oh, it is. And it's the same everywhere.  Saw a tweet from (if I recall correctly) a German physics doctoral candidate to Dr. Gad Saad. He provided some tongue-in-cheeck advice because her dissertation on the inflation of the early universe didn't include any information on how it negatively impacted leftists...  The poor woman was later forced to take down her tweet.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 12:26:05 PM »
At this point "Left" is pretty much just a class marker.

Cheer on violence against political opponents? Yes.
Demand forced medical treatments? Absolutely.
Persecute people out of society for peaceful disagreement (or supporting them)? 100%
Idolize violent criminals and thugs? Sure.
Advocate sexual grooming & assault of little children? A-ok.
Celebrate foreign wars for profit? Hell yeah.

All because people on the "Left" want to be seen as good people by the evil monsters that run the propaganda mills.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2022, 12:46:57 PM »
At this point "Left" is pretty much just a class marker.

Cheer on violence against political opponents? Yes.
Demand forced medical treatments? Absolutely.
Persecute people out of society for peaceful disagreement (or supporting them)? 100%
Idolize violent criminals and thugs? Sure.
Advocate sexual grooming & assault of little children? A-ok.
Celebrate foreign wars for profit? Hell yeah.

All because people on the "Left" want to be seen as good people by the evil monsters that run the propaganda mills.
I’m sorry for not getting this, but when did they celebrate foreign wars?

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2022, 01:21:09 PM »
I’m sorry for not getting this, but when did they celebrate foreign wars?

Syria, four years of Russia!Russia!Russia! turning into the presently-unfolding Ukraine conflict, even to a lesser extent Afghanistan where a not-insignificant number of paid shills have advocated ongoing US military presence. (They call it "peacekeeping" or "human rights oversight" or some other euphemism.)

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2022, 02:39:56 PM »
Not as written. Even though it happens to contain a verb, the entire passage is just a noun phrase. It is a subject, but it needs more than just a subject to make it a sentence.

It is quite possible that she meant to say "The belief in one’s entitlement to freedom is a key component of White supremacy." That would be a sentence. However, the " that" turns it into a noun phrase.
Sadly, it's not uncommon in WaPo articles these days. Even the WSJ, which was (and still is) the most tightly edited major paper, started to slip about 10 years ago. Basic copyediting is a lost art.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2022, 06:26:16 PM »


And yes, it's real:
https://archive.ph/vegSa

The "sentence" you highlight isn't even a sentence. In fact, the whole opinion piece fails to develop, support, or even really articulate, a thesis. I hope this isn't what passes for scholarly writing among grad students at the University of Pennsylvania (but rather afraid it might be).

Anyway, based on this piece, it's rather hard to say what this student's own point is, let alone what some broader "Left" might be "giving up on."

Oh I agree with the first part, it’s a butchered sentence.

On the last bit, this is not some random blog post, but WP found it to have enough merit to publish. On top of that, notice how quickly free speech became smeared as an “alt-right dog whistle”. I should also add one more thing; I have had leftists on Facebook trying to smear and make fun of me when I pointed out that people in the American countryside value their independence and freedom. So I’ve actually seen this before.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2022, 08:52:27 PM »
The Left absolutely loves free speech.

You are FREE to speak whatever their narrative might be this week.

My dad lived through this behind the Iron Curtain. This isn't new for humanity and if Americans don't like it, then its high time to remember what the 2A is for.

If you don't like where America is going, here's your choices:
1) Red State Secession
2) Civil War
3) Submission to communism

Pick one and accept the consequences.

There's no voting our way of this mess because there is only the Uniparty and both Left and Right elite hate you. The Right just wants your money and votes while they choke back their total disgust for you peasants until they're re-elected.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2022, 08:15:37 AM »
The Left absolutely loves free speech.

You are FREE to speak whatever their narrative might be this week.

My dad lived through this behind the Iron Curtain. This isn't new for humanity and if Americans don't like it, then its high time to remember what the 2A is for.

If you don't like where America is going, here's your choices:
1) Red State Secession
2) Civil War
3) Submission to communism

Pick one and accept the consequences.

There's no voting our way of this mess because there is only the Uniparty and both Left and Right elite hate you. The Right just wants your money and votes while they choke back their total disgust for you peasants until they're re-elected.

  Speaking of white supremacist amendments...2A is on the list for sure. 
 No civil war and no secession unless the discomfort gets a good deal worse.   It does seem with supply chain issues, inflation and tip toeing around a World War, that discomfort could be incoming.  I guess the Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times, " really was a curse.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2022, 01:09:40 PM »
Not as written. Even though it happens to contain a verb, the entire passage is just a noun phrase. It is a subject, but it needs more than just a subject to make it a sentence.

It is quite possible that she meant to say "The belief in one’s entitlement to freedom is a key component of White supremacy." That would be a sentence. However, the " that" turns it into a noun phrase.
Sadly, it's not uncommon in WaPo articles these days. Even the WSJ, which was (and still is) the most tightly edited major paper, started to slip about 10 years ago. Basic copyediting is a lost art.

Fair comment. Everybody needs an editor, even people who have been writing for decades, never mind students. It should have been caught.

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Re: The Left gave up on free speech, now they're giving up on FREEDOM
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2022, 02:35:41 PM »
I’m sorry for not getting this, but when did they celebrate foreign wars?

Syria, four years of Russia!Russia!Russia! turning into the presently-unfolding Ukraine conflict, even to a lesser extent Afghanistan where a not-insignificant number of paid shills have advocated ongoing US military presence. (They call it "peacekeeping" or "human rights oversight" or some other euphemism.)
Ironic. The left loves to claim how anti-war and anti-military they are. I really shouldn't be surprised anymore that the political parties are completely hypocrites without any consistent ideology.