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The alt right utilizes propaganda techniques, and btw it's happening on this forum

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Brad

#60
August 26, 2020, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker;1146461Are you planning to fight the law when the deck's clearly stacked against you, Shasarak? Google Michael Strickland. Look at the McCloskeys. These activists, in concert with the institutions they hold, are out to fuck you in the ass regardless of how virtuous and brave you are.

While all that is true, if some BLM rioters attacked my wife or kids the bodies would be piled up and my family would just have to visit me in prison. No fucks given.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Ghostmaker

#61
August 26, 2020, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: Brad;1146538While all that is true, if some BLM rioters attacked my wife or kids the bodies would be piled up and my family would just have to visit me in prison. No fucks given.

Understandable. I just got irked because Shasarak seemed to be a bit blithe about the repercussions of fighting back in these municipalities.

RandyB

#62
August 26, 2020, 11:19:39 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker;1146546Understandable. I just got irked because Shasarak seemed to be a bit blithe about the repercussions of fighting back in these municipalities.

It's easy for us keyboard warriors to demand courage of others and condemn them when they fail to satisfy our demand.

HappyDaze

#63
August 26, 2020, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Brad;1146538me in prison. No fucks given.
B-rad is being modest; he would likely give many fucks in prison.

deadDMwalking

#64
August 26, 2020, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Shasarak;1144423No, Somebody is on First.

Who's on first.
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

KingCheops

#65
August 26, 2020, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: RandyB;1146552It's easy for us keyboard warriors to demand courage of others and condemn them when they fail to satisfy our demand.

Kid who shot 3 rioters in Kenosha is up for Murder 1.  Probably get out of it considering the arm shot was holding a sidearm and there's pictures of kid getting hit with a skateboard by an "adult".

Pat

#66
August 26, 2020, 05:19:24 PM
Quote from: KingCheops;1146578Kid who shot 3 rioters in Kenosha is up for Murder 1.  Probably get out of it considering the arm shot was holding a sidearm and there's pictures of kid getting hit with a skateboard by an "adult".
You have to be 18 to open carry in Wisconsin, he brought the gun across state lines, and committing a crime negates self-defense in that state. So he's probably fucked, even though it was a clear case of self-defense. They're also claiming he fled across state lines to escape justice, when the video literally shows him trying to surrender to police immediately after the incident, and across state lines means he lives 5 minutes away.

RandyB

#67
August 26, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: KingCheops;1146578Kid who shot 3 rioters in Kenosha is up for Murder 1.  Probably get out of it considering the arm shot was holding a sidearm and there's pictures of kid getting hit with a skateboard by an "adult".

Kid showed his own courage. The arrest and charge are pure power play. Here's hoping the kid isn't one of the casualties of this war.

KingCheops

#68
August 26, 2020, 06:52:03 PM
I live in the communist part of Soviet Canuckistan so I didn't realize that Kenosha was right on the state line like that.  Yeah looks really bad for that kid.  I have very little sympathy for the LARPer who thought writing "Paramedic" on his hat made him immune to real world consequences.  Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Pat

#69
August 26, 2020, 07:19:42 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/26/wisconsin-open-carry-law-kyle-rittenhouse-legally-have-gun-kenosha-protest-shooting-17-year-old/3444231001/
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel consulted some experts, including a lawyer who specializes in gun rights cases and a concealed carry instructor, who think it was both legal for Rittenhouse to carry the weapon, and that he properly acted in self-defense, including retreating. There's still some ambiguity, which will have to be resolved by a jury, but he's in a stronger position than I thought.

Shasarak

#70
August 26, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: RandyB;1146552It's easy for us keyboard warriors to demand courage of others and condemn them when they fail to satisfy our demand.

I especially like the pearl clutching and rationisations.

Oh no, why wont anyone do anything?  Think of the children!
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Spinachcat

#71
August 27, 2020, 03:57:32 AM
Quote from: RandyB;1146582Kid showed his own courage. The arrest and charge are pure power play. Here's hoping the kid isn't one of the casualties of this war.

The video is pretty shocking. I doubt a jury will tolerate any attempt to harm someone so clearly under attack and trying to save their own life. I won't be surprised if the charges get dropped in a couple weeks. Even if the prosecutors go full retard, I can see a jury either refusing to convict or just being unable to come to any consensus. AKA, something I suspect we'll see at the St. George Kirby trial as well.

Ghostmaker

#72
August 27, 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1146635The video is pretty shocking. I doubt a jury will tolerate any attempt to harm someone so clearly under attack and trying to save their own life. I won't be surprised if the charges get dropped in a couple weeks. Even if the prosecutors go full retard, I can see a jury either refusing to convict or just being unable to come to any consensus. AKA, something I suspect we'll see at the St. George Kirby trial as well.

You mean how the coroner just stated Floyd died from all the garbage he'd shot up, including enough fentanyl to kill a man?

I mean, there goes the murder charge, aaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. They might be able to hit Chauvin on manslaughter, and I've stated before that Chauvin bears some responsibility because it was beholden upon him to see to Floyd's well being, as Floyd was his prisoner. The case may be completely shot at this point though.

As far as Rittenhouse goes, it's hard to say. They MIGHT be able to tag Kyle on a weapons charge, but I really want to see the jury that'll convict a 17 year old trying to defend himself from raving sex fiends and convicted thugs.

RandyB

#73
August 27, 2020, 08:52:45 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1146635The video is pretty shocking. I doubt a jury will tolerate any attempt to harm someone so clearly under attack and trying to save their own life. I won't be surprised if the charges get dropped in a couple weeks. Even if the prosecutors go full retard, I can see a jury either refusing to convict or just being unable to come to any consensus. AKA, something I suspect we'll see at the St. George Kirby trial as well.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1146650You mean how the coroner just stated Floyd died from all the garbage he'd shot up, including enough fentanyl to kill a man?

I mean, there goes the murder charge, aaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone. They might be able to hit Chauvin on manslaughter, and I've stated before that Chauvin bears some responsibility because it was beholden upon him to see to Floyd's well being, as Floyd was his prisoner. The case may be completely shot at this point though.

As far as Rittenhouse goes, it's hard to say. They MIGHT be able to tag Kyle on a weapons charge, but I really want to see the jury that'll convict a 17 year old trying to defend himself from raving sex fiends and convicted thugs.

The process is the punishment, even if acquitted.

Which sucks egregiously.

Ghostmaker

#74
August 27, 2020, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: RandyB;1146654The process is the punishment, even if acquitted.

Which sucks egregiously.

Can't argue that. However, with public opinion turning hard against qualified immunity, spurious or false indictments could become a millstone around a prosecutor's neck.
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