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Terry Brooks and Peter V Brett on cancel culture, in the mildest of words

Started by Rafael, September 09, 2021, 04:11:23 PM

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KingCheops

Quote from: Shasarak on September 15, 2021, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on September 15, 2021, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on September 09, 2021, 08:24:06 PM
I have not read any of Peters books but he sounds really slimy in this video.

But at least he made sure that 50% of his characters were female.

Yeah, agreed. Glad I never read any of his stuff. I watched the video and after them saying it's a make believe world he has to say that at least 50% of his characters are female. wow

Playing through the Paizo adventure path my players have never had to kill so many evil white female slavers.

Because diversity!

Sounds hot.

GriswaldTerrastone

I'm 55. My profile won't record this. It's only right younger members know how old I am.

Thorn Drumheller

Quote from: Shasarak on September 16, 2021, 12:21:16 AM

Do you mean like the ones based on Norse mythology?

Or is it more like the Black Orcs who are Black because Blacks are Bad and Black Orcs are really Black people?

Lol. I like the way you think :D
Member in good standing of COSM.

horsesoldier

Quote from: Rafael on September 09, 2021, 04:11:23 PM
Hey,

So, I think this might be a bigger moment than it might seem: Terry Brooks, godfather of post-Tolkien fantasy, and Peter V Brett, author of the "Demon Cycle", one of the more innovative takes on "traditional" epic fantasy, discuss Peter's new novel, "The Desert Prince", and - not in those words - how SJWs are becoming a problem for fantasy literature.



[Relevant part starts around 12:00, gets more specific around 19:30, goes on until about 25:00.]

Worth a look, I think, if only because it does so much to take the bipolarity out of the debate. Like the Pundit, I have no skin in the game when it comes to US-centered political discussion, but I'd like the needless and embarrassing drama to stay out of my hobby. - So, I take this as an important moment in the debate: Here are two of the most successful writers in the genre saying loud and clear that they're not happy with recent developments. Might not be controversial enough for Kotaku, might get missed by Twitter altogether, but still - this is as direct a statement as we are going to get by two of the needle movers in the genre. That's cool, and that feels like a step into the right direction to me.

Cheers,

- R

This Peter Brett guy has a character named Olive Paper. Am I mishearing? That's a very dumb name. That's the name of a comical bureaucrat NPC.

And he basically just wanted to write a transvestite so he just came up with a goofy background for it. Then Terry asked if he got push back? In current year? By a publisher that has SENSITIVITY READERS? WTF. "raising two daughters that don't want to conform and making a point they don't have to"

This guy is an idiot.

Terry is a very typical midwest elder hippy type and had a very sensible view on an author being told he can't write about something he isn't, than Peter goes on and just starts saying stupid crap again. They are not coming from a good place. They're coming from a place of resentment.

Why are the modern crop of fantasy writers so mediocre?

DocJones

I've always viewed Terry Brooks as a woke piece of crap as well as his Shanarra novels as pure crap.
I don't want to watch the video as I don't care what Terry Brooks has to say about anything.
Just thought I'd chime in though.  LOL



horsesoldier

Quote from: DocJones on September 21, 2021, 05:06:13 PM
I've always viewed Terry Brooks as a woke piece of crap as well as his Shanarra novels as pure crap.
I don't want to watch the video as I don't care what Terry Brooks has to say about anything.
Just thought I'd chime in though.  LOL

Wise man, you are missing nothing and in fact gaining by not wasting your time.