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jhkim:
I'm curious among those who have followed it, what do you think about the status of U.S. election fraud in 2020. It seems to me that legal efforts to overturn or prove election fraud in 2020 have stalled.

But even if they haven't passed in the courts, there are people still trying to investigate and collect evidence. Do people think that there has been any progress in identifying how election fraud happened? At the time, I saw a lot of claims. Has time allowed clarifying any of those claims? For example, was there a raid on server farms in Germany that were involved in the elections?

Also, what does the progress (or lack thereof) mean for the upcoming 2022 midterm elections?

ScytheSong:
As far as I've been able to tell the only novel election fraud from 2020 that has gone to the point of prosecution fell into two categories: a handful of cases (less than a dozen) that were Republicans trying to stress-test the system but doing so illegally, and a few dozen cases of felons who were told they were able to register, but the people telling them that were wrong (almost all were in Florida). There are also the usual few cases scattered across the country where someone fraudulently tries to vote for someone else that happen every election.

Other than that, it's all allegations without any proof.

3catcircus:

--- Quote from: ScytheSong on September 19, 2022, 01:15:48 AM ---As far as I've been able to tell the only novel election fraud from 2020 that has gone to the point of prosecution fell into two categories: a handful of cases (less than a dozen) that were Republicans trying to stress-test the system but doing so illegally, and a few dozen cases of felons who were told they were able to register, but the people telling them that were wrong (almost all were in Florida). There are also the usual few cases scattered across the country where someone fraudulently tries to vote for someone else that happen every election.

Other than that, it's all allegations without any proof.

--- End quote ---

That's not entirely true.  There *are* cases of election officials being prosecuted for shenanigans and there are ongoing investigations. But they're so few and far between because no one really wants to expose the exact depth and breadth of shenanigans that have been going on for decades.

We know that Nixon beat Kennedy but the shenanigans in IL and TX led to Kennedy winning the electoral votes in those states.

The difference between then and now is that now we have *no* excuses to not have transparency in the entire process. Cleaning up voter rolls is low-hanging fruit, as is having an equal number of officials from both major parties sitting on election boards. Having a system that flags an absentee ballot if an in-person ballot from the same person is cast isn't that hard (and provides an incentive to clean up the rolls). Having the ability to video record the people doing the machine prep and test is easy. Requiring voting machine supplies to provide source code just requires the ability of government procurement people to walk away from bid and proposal responses that don't include it. Having the ability to 100% confirm that electronic voting machines are air-gapped is easy - don't supply them with wifi or cell modem and be able to physically lock out the network ports.

This is all *easy* but it requires government employees to not be lazy or corrupt.

I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE:
The establishment won because the opposition didn't do violence.

BoxCrayonTales:
Both sides mow believe if the other side wins then it was fraud. Congratulations, we’ve successfully broken democracy, the best system we’ve developed so far. Humanity is fucked now.

We might as well use lottery or death combat to pick our leaders

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