Stacey D calls for boycott of Garycon

[Abraxus]

I thought that was particularly insidious move from her.

So caught in her own insanity and rhetoric that she rather deprive a charity of much needed funds then let the matter go.

[Snowman0147]

I'm curious how FGG no longer being able to donate product for a Humble Bundle charity drive "hits them where it counts" but, I'm a simple man.

If anything it compels me to purchase FFG even more and I don't like Swords & Wizardry.  I am more of a Dungeon Crawl Classics kind of guy.

[wmarshal]

Links and other lunacy stripped.

I'm curious how FGG no longer being able to donate product for a Humble Bundle charity drive "hits them where it counts" but, I'm a simple man.

The only one potentially hurt here is the charity that benefits from the Humble Bundle, but, hey, who cares about collateral damage when you're on a holy crusade?

When one is a zealot in a cult purity matters more than anything.  Critical Theory/Intersectionality have become a dogmatic the secular cult of SJWs. The term "secular cult" seems strange, but I haven't been able to determine a better description. (I'm not saying that anyone who is on the liberal/left end of the political spectrum is an SJW cultist.) It is not uncommon for those who step away from a mainstream religious belief to wind up joining an unorthodox group or cult. For many there is a need to belong to a group or movement. With the SJWs what is different is that it is very secular. Some members may have a religious faith (though I observe that most are atheist) it is not their faith that drives them. While society has experience with religious cults, and means to limit a religious cult's influence/damage, I don't think society has even the language to confront a secular cult.

Some of the things that lead me to consider SJWs a secular cult is the use of the ideas of safe spaces and allyship to preclude the interaction with non-heterodox ideas. A safe space will not allow the existence of ideas that do not align to the goal of those enforcing the safe space. We're not just talking about white supremacists attempting to barge into conversations about race (or anything else a white supremacists barges into), but any idea that might not fully support the safe space. A condition of allyship I often see stated is that the ally's purpose is to support the actions of the SJW without question or discussion. These seem like methods of social control akin to what a religious cult would use.

[jeff37923]

The only one potentially hurt here is the charity that benefits from the Humble Bundle, but, hey, who cares about collateral damage when you're on a holy crusade?

Wow. I didn't think that she could get any shittier, but she surprised me.

[Spinachcat]

Links and other lunacy stripped.

Kythri!!! The links and other lunacy IS the source of LOLZ!!!

Link us to the lunacy!!!

The LOLZ must flow!!!

When one is a zealot in a cult purity matters more than anything.

"Secular cult" is a perfect term.

I had to mea culpa a few months ago about this. For decades, I assumed traditional religion could be replaced by reason. I assumed wrong. Mankind replaces religion with another religion. Old cult are replaced by new cults.

And when you scratch the surface, they operate the same.

Ia! Ia! SJW f'taghn!

[Ratman_tf]

When one is a zealot in a cult purity matters more than anything.  Critical Theory/Intersectionality have become a dogmatic the secular cult of SJWs. The term "secular cult" seems strange, but I haven't been able to determine a better description. (I'm not saying that anyone who is on the liberal/left end of the political spectrum is an SJW cultist.) It is not uncommon for those who step away from a mainstream religious belief to wind up joining an unorthodox group or cult. For many there is a need to belong to a group or movement. With the SJWs what is different is that it is very secular. Some members may have a religious faith (though I observe that most are atheist) it is not their faith that drives them. While society has experience with religious cults, and means to limit a religious cult's influence/damage, I don't think society has even the language to confront a secular cult.

Some of the things that lead me to consider SJWs a secular cult is the use of the ideas of safe spaces and allyship to preclude the interaction with non-heterodox ideas. A safe space will not allow the existence of ideas that do not align to the goal of those enforcing the safe space. We're not just talking about white supremacists attempting to barge into conversations about race (or anything else a white supremacists barges into), but any idea that might not fully support the safe space. A condition of allyship I often see stated is that the ally's purpose is to support the actions of the SJW without question or discussion. These seem like methods of social control akin to what a religious cult would use.

Yep. I'm sort-of an atheist (I'd have to seperate myself from the anti-theists) and once upon a time I believed the idea that if we got rid of religion, that a lot of the world's problems would be lessened, if not solved. The SJW anti-theist crowd caused me to rethink that idea. All of the terrible group mentality of religion without a God. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. There's cults that worship spaceships and aliens, replacing god and angels with sci-fi ideas.

[Myrdin Potter]

I was planning on coming back in a month and pointing out that nothing had come of their boycott, but they have already admitted defeat and are trying something else. This will fail in a whimpering fashion because no one cares or follows what they say. And they are attacking the other charity source that could support their pet Con. The Humble Bundle has raised over $143K (most of the money goes to the companies that contribute materials, only some goes to charity). If you like 5e, there are quite a few excellent books in tne offer and the digital maps for Rappan Athuk are a good value for the money.

[Abraxus]

At the very least the only good thing to come out of this is showcase how toxic and insane Stacey is. Your certifiably nuts imo when you start attacking charities because the companies that use them refuse to bow down to your rhetoric.

[The Exploited.]

So caught in her own insanity and rhetoric that she rather deprive a charity of much needed funds then let the matter go.

This is it mate... Not only completely selfish but completely destructive to a charity.

I just don't get it... It's not as if it's like taking blood money from a thriving heroine business that kills. I hope they tell her to f off.

Plus, we are still at the 'allegations' stages I believe? Of course, when did 'proof' matter to these nutters anyway?

[Lynn]

There is so much anger in the hobby because the people discussing it are most likely, western, middle class, and well fed. They don't actually face real hardship so they get to the extreme of the mundane. The West is so wealthy and the people here are in a such good shape that we can bitch and moan about silly elf games, books, and movies, when other parts f the world that face real hardship will never be able to understand.

Feel free to self flagellate.

[Tait Ransom]

Links and other lunacy stripped.

I'm curious how FGG no longer being able to donate product for a Humble Bundle charity drive "hits them where it counts" but, I'm a simple man.

The only one potentially hurt here is the charity that benefits from the Humble Bundle, but, hey, who cares about collateral damage when you're on a holy crusade?

I don't play 5E and I'm not particularly fond of the products, but I will get that bundle as soon as I'm home.  I only wish I could do so in Stacy D's honor.

[Spinachcat]

Where is the statement by StacyD about this BoH boycott?

Here's the only thing I found on the ConTessa Clown Blog about Bundles of Holding:
http://www.contessa.rocks/blog/founders-forum-bundle-of-holding-statement

Apparently in November 2018, there was to be a Fate BoH with the money going to ConTessa and then Evil Hat plugged the butt plug on the BoH due to "bad blood" and switched the charity to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)

[jeff37923]

I was planning on coming back in a month and pointing out that nothing had come of their boycott, but they have already admitted defeat and are trying something else.

A) Nice goalpost shifting to cover your ass.
B) I will never consider myself petty after this post of yours. Thank you.

This will fail in a whimpering fashion because no one cares or follows what they say.

Yup and I betcha that Stacey D would not have even been attacking a charity if we had just ignored her hard enough.

Bullshit like what is happening to Humble Bundle is why these social justice terrorists need to be opposed at every opportunity because they are like a shotgun blast when they get their secular cult fury going - absolutely indiscriminate in the damage they cause as long as there is some possible injury to their target. Any connection between Bill Webb and Humble Bundle is tenuous at best, so it really is not hurting her proclaimed target to do this.

[jeff37923]

Kythri!!! The links and other lunacy IS the source of LOLZ!!!

Link us to the lunacy!!!

The LOLZ must flow!!!

Here 'ya go! This is one I found most interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2253851037961054&set=a.101670933179086&type=3&theater

[Myrdin Potter]

Jeff something numbers, they failed at their boycott because they were ignored by GaryCon, no one took up their flag and charged with them, now they are spiraling deeper into their own stupidity. No one can stop others from doing stupid things but one can not be stupid as well and not overreact.

The companies involved in this humble bundle (not even close to being FGG only), also may have action on a restraint of trade action against them. I do not think they actually have any assets to go after, though.

As it has been pointed out, you head is such solid rock that you will miss the obvious truth that there is nothing here, but I cannot cure that.