GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked

[EOTB]

point of order - I called you out not because you laid out your utterly predictable views, but for what else you couldn't resist adding to them. 

But hey, by your own assessment nobody agrees with you.

As for "they'll just go elsewhere because they don't want to build their own homelands up to 1st world status"...good, let those other countries take them.  If that's how they treat their own countrymen, exactly what value are they really?  Citizenship is about much more than wanting to participate in an economy.

[rawma]

So even Jesus Christ, your best person ever, had people going behind his back grifting, complaining and betraying him.

1. You still haven't said what you think Jesus Christ did wrong.
2. Jesus Christ didn't pretend not to know the sinners he associated with; arguably, pardons were issued to all of humanity but not as a corrupt act to get Jesus Christ off the hook (or cross).

[SHARK]

Question: Hey Mistwell, what actually policies of Trump did you disagree with
Mistwell: Well I am happy you asked, here are many policies I disagree with Trump on, all of which are in line with the views of the last five Republicans to receive the Presidential nomination prior to Trump.
Everyone: He lies! Those are not true conservative beliefs!

Yeah OK then. If you're going to tell me G. Bush, Bob Dole, W. Bush (nominated twice), McCain and Romney are not Republicans, you can suck it. They might not be your kind of Republicans, but they were my kind of Republicans, and the Republican party agreed they were Republicans. And given G. Bush was VP under Reagan and the party universally agreed he was Republican then too, we're talking a set of beliefs dating back at least 40 years (though I'd argue Ford also supported those policies too).

Also, on the topic of brain drain, these are people leaving their nation anyway. There is no evidence if they cannot come to the U.S. then they just stay in their home country. There is international competition to receive these kinds of immigrants, and if we tell them no they just end up in Canada, New Zealand, Australia, England, and a host of other first world nations.

Greetings!

Yeah, Mistwell, and all of those Republican politicians you mentioned--Bush Sr, Bob Dole, Bush Jr, John Mcain, and Mitt Romney--except for Bush Jr, were LOSERS.

They were all "Lead and Pace" Republicans primarily content to bloviate about wonky policy issues--and carefully avoid getting into any messy issues of the Culture War--while losing "Gracefully and with Dignity" again, and again, and again.

Most of them--Bush Sr, Bush Jr, John Mcain, and Mitt Romney--I can't say for certain about Bob Dole--were essentially mushy, smiling, polite, weak globalists. They were focused on catering to the smug, corporate elites of the donor class. And yes, their ilk, and their philosophy--have been around and circulating throughout society and the Republican Party for some 40 years or more. The same kind of smooth talking, gaseous jackasses that talk a good game, promise to fight for Conservative American values and ideals--and then get on their knees and cock-suck the Democrats, endlessly compromise, while next weekend playing golf and attending cigar dinners with their Democrat Party colleagues--and month after month, session after session, election after election, get nothing done. When confronted about their swarmy failures and lack of accomplishments--they again pour on the smooze, make endless excuses, and promise to "win the fight for America next time!"

Meanwhile, year after year, the cock-sucking Liberals and Marxists get stronger and stronger, and more influential. TRUE CONSERVATIVES sit there and wonder, well, WTF? We keep voting in Republican Senators, Republican Congressmen, Republican Presidents--while somehow, the Marxists keep winning, and America declines.

The fucking cock-sucking RINOS, the Globalists, the "Lincoln Project", the "Never Trumpers"--they can all go fuck themselves and gargle with crushed glass. And the sweet thing is, TRUMP has made them all cry like bitches. TRUMPISM is here to stay! Americans--Conservative Americans--have finally woken up to how they have been constantly betrayed and lied to by corrupt, selfish, weak, compromising, feckless Republican politicians. Trump not only told all the pathetic, weak fucking RINOS to go fuck themselves--but he also boldly attacked the Marxists and the goddamned Liberals that have embraced Marxist poison. Every week he has made the Democrats sob and REEE. FINALLY, the ordinary, Conservative Americans have a politician that has been CONSERVATIVE, and bold, and aggressive, relentlessly attacking the Democrats and weak fucking RINOS with equal fire.

It's a new era, Mistwell. RINOS have gotten fucked over and over again at the polls, and now, hell, even Republican women are getting angry, and being elected to office in record numbers, with most of them being fierce fire-breathers and anti-RINOS. 75 million Americans are not likely to ever go back to supporting pathetic Globalist RINOS like John Mcain and Mitt Romney. Regardless of whatever develops with the Trump Campaign's investigations into mass Election fraud, TRUMPISM has fundamentally changed the political landscape in America. Furthermore, if the remaining RINO's don't get their heads out of their ass real fast, the Republican Party might just be flushed down the toilet entirely, and replaced by a MAGA Party!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Shasarak]

So even Jesus Christ, your best person ever, had people going behind his back grifting, complaining and betraying him.

1. You still haven't said what you think Jesus Christ did wrong.
2. Jesus Christ didn't pretend not to know the sinners he associated with; arguably, pardons were issued to all of humanity but not as a corrupt act to get Jesus Christ off the hook (or cross).

Why is it that left wing democrats always focus on what someone did wrong?  To the exclusion of everything else really.

Which reminds me that I have not seen you denouncing white supremacy.

[SHARK]

So even Jesus Christ, your best person ever, had people going behind his back grifting, complaining and betraying him.

1. You still haven't said what you think Jesus Christ did wrong.
2. Jesus Christ didn't pretend not to know the sinners he associated with; arguably, pardons were issued to all of humanity but not as a corrupt act to get Jesus Christ off the hook (or cross).

Why is it that left wing democrats always focus on what someone did wrong?  To the exclusion of everything else really.

Which reminds me that I have not seen you denouncing white supremacy.

Greetings!

*Laughing* All the "HU WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!"

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[SHARK]

point of order - I called you out not because you laid out your utterly predictable views, but for what else you couldn't resist adding to them. 

But hey, by your own assessment nobody agrees with you.

As for "they'll just go elsewhere because they don't want to build their own homelands up to 1st world status"...good, let those other countries take them.  If that's how they treat their own countrymen, exactly what value are they really?  Citizenship is about much more than wanting to participate in an economy.

Greetings!

Damn right, EOTB!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[rawma]

Why is it that left wing democrats always focus on what someone did wrong?  To the exclusion of everything else really.

Which reminds me that I have not seen you denouncing white supremacy.

You brought up other matters to distract from points you couldn't dispute. I have excluded nothing, and I look forward to the good things that a Biden administration will accomplish on many pressing matters.

If you're asking me if white supremacy is bad, then, yes, it is bad. You shouldn't need me to tell you that, but right wingers often have that difficulty.

To return to the topic you were so desperate to distract from (how Trump responds to wrongdoing among his close associates), consider how every Republican administration in my lifetime has ended:

Nixon/Ford ended with Nixon underlings convicted of crimes and Ford pardoning Nixon over Watergate.
Reagan/Bush1 ending with Bush1 pardoning six administration members for crimes related to Iran/Contra.
Bush2 commuted the sentence of "Scooter" Libby over the CIA leak scandal.
Trump was impeached for the Ukraine scandal, commuted Roger Stone's sentence and pardoned Michael Flynn, as well as some Bush2 administration wrongdoing, and it is not unlikely he will try to pardon himself.

By contrast, Bill Clinton got impeached over his adultery and had some dubious pardons, including his secretary of HUD (payments to a mistress) but none for scandals on the scale of the Republicans. I can find no particularly controversial pardons by Kennedy, Johnson, Carter or Obama.

[consolcwby]

Why is it that left wing democrats always focus on what someone did wrong?  To the exclusion of everything else really.

Which reminds me that I have not seen you denouncing white supremacy.

You brought up other matters to distract from points you couldn't dispute. I have excluded nothing, and I look forward to the good things that a Biden administration will accomplish on many pressing matters.

If you're asking me if white supremacy is bad, then, yes, it is bad. You shouldn't need me to tell you that, but right wingers often have that difficulty.

To return to the topic you were so desperate to distract from (how Trump responds to wrongdoing among his close associates), consider how every Republican administration in my lifetime has ended:

Nixon/Ford ended with Nixon underlings convicted of crimes and Ford pardoning Nixon over Watergate.
Reagan/Bush1 ending with Bush1 pardoning six administration members for crimes related to Iran/Contra.
Bush2 commuted the sentence of "Scooter" Libby over the CIA leak scandal.
Trump was impeached for the Ukraine scandal, commuted Roger Stone's sentence and pardoned Michael Flynn, as well as some Bush2 administration wrongdoing, and it is not unlikely he will try to pardon himself.

By contrast, Bill Clinton got impeached over his adultery and had some dubious pardons, including his secretary of HUD (payments to a mistress) but none for scandals on the scale of the Republicans. I can find no particularly controversial pardons by Kennedy, Johnson, Carter or Obama.

Hm. I'll just put this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama
Have fun everyone! 

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Well, now apparently the corrupt fucking Marxist Democrats down in Georgia are seeking to quickly have their Dominion voting machines forensically wiped before they can be inspected by GOP and other analysts.

But there is no corruption or fraud going on!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ghostmaker]

Clinton didn't get impeached for adultery. He got impeached for perjuring himself under oath.

Considering Bill Clinton's considerable charisma (the guy would've made a hell of a bard), it's entirely possible he could've brazened it out by straight up admitting to the affair.

[Arkansan]

Clinton didn't get impeached for adultery. He got impeached for perjuring himself under oath.

Considering Bill Clinton's considerable charisma (the guy would've made a hell of a bard), it's entirely possible he could've brazened it out by straight up admitting to the affair.

I've never understood why he didn't do just that. The only thing I can think is that maybe he was afraid that being open about it might lend public credence to other allegations of sexual impropriety, namely you know.. rape.

[rawma]

Hm. I'll just put this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama
Have fun everyone! 

I'm not seeing any Obama administration officials being pardoned by Obama. We're all still waiting for Trump's DOJ to prosecute Hillary Clinton.

Which do you think were controversial? Which do you think were comparable to the Republican cleanup efforts I listed?

Clinton didn't get impeached for adultery. He got impeached for perjuring himself under oath.

Considering Bill Clinton's considerable charisma (the guy would've made a hell of a bard), it's entirely possible he could've brazened it out by straight up admitting to the affair.

Not perjury regarding any official action but perjury about adultery. Sleazy rather than corrupt. Most Republican presidents are corrupt rather than sleazy, but Trump has managed the twofer.

[Ghostmaker]

Clinton didn't get impeached for adultery. He got impeached for perjuring himself under oath.

Considering Bill Clinton's considerable charisma (the guy would've made a hell of a bard), it's entirely possible he could've brazened it out by straight up admitting to the affair.

I've never understood why he didn't do just that. The only thing I can think is that maybe he was afraid that being open about it might lend public credence to other allegations of sexual impropriety, namely you know.. rape.

That was my guess, to be honest. He had a LONG running reputation all the way back to his time as governor of Arkansas, and his wife routinely helped quiet down what they so charmingly called 'bimbo eruptions'.

[Pat]

Not perjury regarding any official action but perjury about adultery. Sleazy rather than corrupt. Most Republican presidents are corrupt rather than sleazy, but Trump has managed the twofer.

Very corrupt. Remember Whitewater? The main difference is the public ate up salacious rumors, and zoned out when it came to shady real estate transactions.

[Ghostmaker]

Not perjury regarding any official action but perjury about adultery. Sleazy rather than corrupt. Most Republican presidents are corrupt rather than sleazy, but Trump has managed the twofer.

Very corrupt. Remember Whitewater? The main difference is the public ate up salacious rumors, and zoned out when it came to shady real estate transactions.

The Whitewater stuff was pretty arcane, although people got a lot more interested when Bernie Madoff's scheme fell apart.

Still, it kind of beggared reason that the Clintons could magically produce that kind of return on investment.