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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2020, 01:02:35 am »
The thing Orwell maybe got wrong? That there would be any need to actually change or hide the contradictory records.

It's been amazing to see the Democrats and the media blatantly swing from being suspicious of the election in 2016, to supporting the results in 2020, when the results were more to their liking, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/801610035738673152

The dissoulution of my opinion of the Democrat party is complete. I have no love for the Republicans, but I can't call the Democrats the lesser of two evils now.
It's been amazing to see the Republicans and the right-wing media blatantly swing from being supportive of the election in 2016, when the results were more to their liking, to being suspicious of the results in 2020, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

The disoulution of my opinion of the Republican party is complete. I have no love for the Democrats, but I can't call the Republicans the lesser of two evils now.


See, not so different.

The funny part is that you seem to think I hadn't considered the reverse position.

So, are we on the same page? Both parties, and the entire government edifice is rotten to the core. Biden is no better or worse than Trump. The physical conficts over partisan issues are going to inexorably escalate, because everyone thinks they're on the "Right side of history".

Greetings!

I certainly agree that there is plenty of corruption, greed, and cock-sucking to go around both parties--however, to insist that "Biden is no better or no worse than Trump"--I think is entirely wrong and misguided, if not even disingenuous.

Biden is in league with Communists. He is allied with, and beholden to the Communist scum that have filled the Democrat Party. AOC, Bernie Sanders, Buttigieg, Beto O'Roarke--all are in favour of Marxist tyranny.

That salient fact alone makes him infinitely worse than President Trump. There just is no comparison whatsoever. The mushy middle=of-the-roaders that like to just throw their hands up and claim, "Oh, all the politicians are just the same and equally terrible" is simply wrong and making gross moral equivalencies.

Semper Fidelis,

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Did you miss the point of my post? According to the other side, you're a neo-fascist nazi authoritarian who wants to enslave women to baby-making and execute the gays for making you feel funny down there.

I strongly dislike Communism and Socialism and I think the approach leads to the tragedy of unintended concequences. I'm not above using a bit of hyperbole to drive home that point.

But when we're all commie scum or nazi scum, there's no room for discussion. We need to figure out how to de-escalate and have that discussion, and tell the media and the politicians to go stuff themselves for stoking the fires for their political and financial gains.

Trump is a populist. I like many of the things he accomplished in office. And I like that he was a finger in the eye of the establishment. But he rode to power on the same fuel that all the other politicans use. The one thing he did differently is to address the vast throng of the middle class. And that's something I hope both sides learn from his Presidency.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2020, 01:49:07 am »
Trump is a populist. I like many of the things he accomplished in office. And I like that he was a finger in the eye of the establishment. But he rode to power on the same fuel that all the other politicans use. The one thing he did differently is to address the vast throng of the middle class. And that's something I hope both sides learn from his Presidency.

Not a chance of that happening.  Why do you think the uniparty establishment has attacked him ceaselessly since Day 1...Because they cannot have anyone who is not bought and paid for by them helping out what is left of the middle class.

Take mistwell for example.  He claims to be some sort of right-leaning Republican who had to hold his nose and vote for Biden...kind of like all of W's cabinet.  Has anyone asked him or seen him tell us which policies of Trump's he found so awful?

Was it
A) Actually giving the lower and middle class a significant tax cut?
B) Renegotiating trade deals in a way that favored the lower and middle class workers?
C) Trying to secure the US border, which helps the lower and middle class jobs/income-wise?
D) Winding down/not starting more endless ME wars, which benefits the lower/middle class whose kids account for most of the troops?
E) All of the above, because I see a fucking pattern...
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2020, 01:59:41 am »
The thing Orwell maybe got wrong? That there would be any need to actually change or hide the contradictory records.

It's been amazing to see the Democrats and the media blatantly swing from being suspicious of the election in 2016, to supporting the results in 2020, when the results were more to their liking, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/801610035738673152

The dissoulution of my opinion of the Democrat party is complete. I have no love for the Republicans, but I can't call the Democrats the lesser of two evils now.
It's been amazing to see the Republicans and the right-wing media blatantly swing from being supportive of the election in 2016, when the results were more to their liking, to being suspicious of the results in 2020, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

The disoulution of my opinion of the Republican party is complete. I have no love for the Democrats, but I can't call the Republicans the lesser of two evils now.


See, not so different.

The funny part is that you seem to think I hadn't considered the reverse position.

So, are we on the same page? Both parties, and the entire government edifice is rotten to the core. Biden is no better or worse than Trump. The physical conficts over partisan issues are going to inexorably escalate, because everyone thinks they're on the "Right side of history".

Greetings!

I certainly agree that there is plenty of corruption, greed, and cock-sucking to go around both parties--however, to insist that "Biden is no better or no worse than Trump"--I think is entirely wrong and misguided, if not even disingenuous.

Biden is in league with Communists. He is allied with, and beholden to the Communist scum that have filled the Democrat Party. AOC, Bernie Sanders, Buttigieg, Beto O'Roarke--all are in favour of Marxist tyranny.

That salient fact alone makes him infinitely worse than President Trump. There just is no comparison whatsoever. The mushy middle=of-the-roaders that like to just throw their hands up and claim, "Oh, all the politicians are just the same and equally terrible" is simply wrong and making gross moral equivalencies.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Did you miss the point of my post? According to the other side, you're a neo-fascist nazi authoritarian who wants to enslave women to baby-making and execute the gays for making you feel funny down there.

I strongly dislike Communism and Socialism and I think the approach leads to the tragedy of unintended concequences. I'm not above using a bit of hyperbole to drive home that point.

But when we're all commie scum or nazi scum, there's no room for discussion. We need to figure out how to de-escalate and have that discussion, and tell the media and the politicians to go stuff themselves for stoking the fires for their political and financial gains.

Trump is a populist. I like many of the things he accomplished in office. And I like that he was a finger in the eye of the establishment. But he rode to power on the same fuel that all the other politicans use. The one thing he did differently is to address the vast throng of the middle class. And that's something I hope both sides learn from his Presidency.

Greetings!

Good points, Ratman. I agree. I see what you meant now.

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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2020, 06:38:05 am »
The thing Orwell maybe got wrong? That there would be any need to actually change or hide the contradictory records.

It's been amazing to see the Democrats and the media blatantly swing from being suspicious of the election in 2016, to supporting the results in 2020, when the results were more to their liking, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/801610035738673152

The dissoulution of my opinion of the Democrat party is complete. I have no love for the Republicans, but I can't call the Democrats the lesser of two evils now.
It's been amazing to see the Republicans and the right-wing media blatantly swing from being supportive of the election in 2016, when the results were more to their liking, to being suspicious of the results in 2020, and on the exact same topics, or very similar topics.

The disoulution of my opinion of the Republican party is complete. I have no love for the Democrats, but I can't call the Republicans the lesser of two evils now.


See, not so different.

The funny part is that you seem to think I hadn't considered the reverse position.

So, are we on the same page? Both parties, and the entire government edifice is rotten to the core. Biden is no better or worse than Trump. The physical conficts over partisan issues are going to inexorably escalate, because everyone thinks they're on the "Right side of history".

Greetings!

I certainly agree that there is plenty of corruption, greed, and cock-sucking to go around both parties--however, to insist that "Biden is no better or no worse than Trump"--I think is entirely wrong and misguided, if not even disingenuous.

Biden is in league with Communists. He is allied with, and beholden to the Communist scum that have filled the Democrat Party. AOC, Bernie Sanders, Buttigieg, Beto O'Roarke--all are in favour of Marxist tyranny.

That salient fact alone makes him infinitely worse than President Trump. There just is no comparison whatsoever. The mushy middle=of-the-roaders that like to just throw their hands up and claim, "Oh, all the politicians are just the same and equally terrible" is simply wrong and making gross moral equivalencies.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Did you miss the point of my post? According to the other side, you're a neo-fascist nazi authoritarian who wants to enslave women to baby-making and execute the gays for making you feel funny down there.

I strongly dislike Communism and Socialism and I think the approach leads to the tragedy of unintended concequences. I'm not above using a bit of hyperbole to drive home that point.

But when we're all commie scum or nazi scum, there's no room for discussion. We need to figure out how to de-escalate and have that discussion, and tell the media and the politicians to go stuff themselves for stoking the fires for their political and financial gains.

Trump is a populist. I like many of the things he accomplished in office. And I like that he was a finger in the eye of the establishment. But he rode to power on the same fuel that all the other politicans use. The one thing he did differently is to address the vast throng of the middle class. And that's something I hope both sides learn from his Presidency.

Greetings!

Good points, Ratman. I agree. I see what you meant now.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2020, 08:44:31 am »

Was it
A) Actually giving the lower and middle class a significant tax cut?
B) Renegotiating trade deals in a way that favored the lower and middle class workers?
C) Trying to secure the US border, which helps the lower and middle class jobs/income-wise?
D) Winding down/not starting more endless ME wars, which benefits the lower/middle class whose kids account for most of the troops?
E) All of the above, because I see a fucking pattern...

Fairly good questions and yes I do see a pattern.  That is why I among the 70 million that voted for Trump for his second term.  It is among the reasons why I voted for Trump for his first term too.  TRUMP ACTUALLY GAVE A SHIT. 

Biden will go back to policies that will suck for the majority of Americans.  He will start wars and the dumb fucks that voted for him will beg for the return of Trump.

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« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2020, 12:03:04 pm »
Biden gives a shit.

He's going to give it to us all. But I think lots of politicians are into that.

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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2020, 12:14:36 pm »
It is really weird how, after having to fire someone and them showing their true colours by trying to cash in writing a "Tell all" book about how crazy you are, you have to disavow knowing them.

I can not figure out why anyone would do that?   :o

Yes, I certainly understand why someone would try to discredit witnesses to their misdeeds. Trump has disavowed even ones who have stuck by him, like George Papadopolous (the coffee boy).

People who haven't done anything wrong and who can admit mistakes don't have to pretend they don't know past associates and underlings who turned out to be crooked or incompetent. I leave it to you to decide whether Trump has done something wrong or can't admit mistakes (spoiler: it's both).

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« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2020, 12:21:16 pm »
Trump has never aimed at Republicans? And would never tolerate that from his team? LOL.

As President, has Trump ever initiated legal action against a Republican?

You have a very narrow view of aiming at Republicans, but some of Rudy's legal actions have implicated Republican state officials.

Trump distanced from Powell because she's crazy, and the only crazy he wants is Coup Coup for Cocoa Puffs.

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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2020, 02:49:47 pm »
It is really weird how, after having to fire someone and them showing their true colours by trying to cash in writing a "Tell all" book about how crazy you are, you have to disavow knowing them.

I can not figure out why anyone would do that?   :o

Yes, I certainly understand why someone would try to discredit witnesses to their misdeeds. Trump has disavowed even ones who have stuck by him, like George Papadopolous (the coffee boy).

People who haven't done anything wrong and who can admit mistakes don't have to pretend they don't know past associates and underlings who turned out to be crooked or incompetent. I leave it to you to decide whether Trump has done something wrong or can't admit mistakes (spoiler: it's both).

Tell me, who is this magical person who has never done anything wrong?

Come on, pics or it never happened!
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2020, 05:50:16 pm »
Yeah, y'know...

Liberal fucknuggets lost any right to bitch about 'morality' or 'ethics' in a President when they pushed Bill 'Super Cigar' Clinton into the White House.

Even when people were pointing out he was a philandering creep who couldn't keep it in his pants and relied on his grifting wife and her flunkies to keep his trysts quiet.

So yeah, we're not impressed when people snivel about whatever perceived failings Trump has. Because a lot of it is projection.

And before some fucknugget brings up Stormy Daniels; how'd that lawsuit turn out again? Oh yeah -- he won.

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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2020, 06:33:54 pm »
Yeah, y'know...

Liberal fucknuggets lost any right to bitch about 'morality' or 'ethics' in a President when they pushed Bill 'Super Cigar' Clinton into the White House.

Even when people were pointing out he was a philandering creep who couldn't keep it in his pants and relied on his grifting wife and her flunkies to keep his trysts quiet.

So yeah, we're not impressed when people snivel about whatever perceived failings Trump has. Because a lot of it is projection.

And before some fucknugget brings up Stormy Daniels; how'd that lawsuit turn out again? Oh yeah -- he won.

The past four years have been a hilarious game of "spaghetti fight". The Dems threw everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, and he is still going to finish his term.
Nothing stuck, because the Dems are relying on the same old play book, and it's gotten old and predictable. Yeah, they're going to call people an ist and a phobe and a nazi white supremacist. That's what they do to everyone they disagree with.
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2020, 08:00:29 pm »
Yeah, y'know...

Liberal fucknuggets lost any right to bitch about 'morality' or 'ethics' in a President when they pushed Bill 'Super Cigar' Clinton into the White House.

Even when people were pointing out he was a philandering creep who couldn't keep it in his pants and relied on his grifting wife and her flunkies to keep his trysts quiet.

So yeah, we're not impressed when people snivel about whatever perceived failings Trump has. Because a lot of it is projection.

And before some fucknugget brings up Stormy Daniels; how'd that lawsuit turn out again? Oh yeah -- he won.

The past four years have been a hilarious game of "spaghetti fight". The Dems threw everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, and he is still going to finish his term.
Nothing stuck, because the Dems are relying on the same old play book, and it's gotten old and predictable. Yeah, they're going to call people an ist and a phobe and a nazi white supremacist. That's what they do to everyone they disagree with.
No. There is a next step, and it involves more gaslighting - the plan is simple: Anyone who disagrees with them will be arrested under terrorism laws. This includes both evangelists, Jews, outspoken blacks, and the like. They HAVE to have this done before 2026. All we've seen so far is the warm-up. They are not liberals by definition - they are MURDEROUS LIBERTINES who are hellbent on creating a new holocaust. This includes LGBT+ people, btw. What they needed was a balkanization of the United States and running Trump vs Clinton got them there. The problem with most people here is they only think what they are taught. Not for themselves. The election, the reset, the roundups, and the eventual war will lead to the utter destruction of ALL FREEDOMS. This is not theory, nor a joke. Can anyone here tell me WHY it is necessary to have those who annoy you, or that you disagree with IMPRISONED OR MURDERED? Or their families? Or their children?

I do not understand 90% of ANY of you! Unbelievable!
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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2020, 09:02:17 pm »
Yeah, y'know...

Liberal fucknuggets lost any right to bitch about 'morality' or 'ethics' in a President when they pushed Bill 'Super Cigar' Clinton into the White House.

Even when people were pointing out he was a philandering creep who couldn't keep it in his pants and relied on his grifting wife and her flunkies to keep his trysts quiet.

So yeah, we're not impressed when people snivel about whatever perceived failings Trump has. Because a lot of it is projection.

And before some fucknugget brings up Stormy Daniels; how'd that lawsuit turn out again? Oh yeah -- he won.

The past four years have been a hilarious game of "spaghetti fight". The Dems threw everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, and he is still going to finish his term.
Nothing stuck, because the Dems are relying on the same old play book, and it's gotten old and predictable. Yeah, they're going to call people an ist and a phobe and a nazi white supremacist. That's what they do to everyone they disagree with.
No. There is a next step, and it involves more gaslighting - the plan is simple: Anyone who disagrees with them will be arrested under terrorism laws. This includes both evangelists, Jews, outspoken blacks, and the like. They HAVE to have this done before 2026. All we've seen so far is the warm-up. They are not liberals by definition - they are MURDEROUS LIBERTINES who are hellbent on creating a new holocaust. This includes LGBT+ people, btw. What they needed was a balkanization of the United States and running Trump vs Clinton got them there. The problem with most people here is they only think what they are taught. Not for themselves. The election, the reset, the roundups, and the eventual war will lead to the utter destruction of ALL FREEDOMS. This is not theory, nor a joke. Can anyone here tell me WHY it is necessary to have those who annoy you, or that you disagree with IMPRISONED OR MURDERED? Or their families? Or their children?

I do not understand 90% of ANY of you! Unbelievable!

For the sake of argument, let's say your predictions are accurate. What do you think should be done about it?
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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2020, 11:23:52 pm »
For the sake of argument, let's say your predictions are accurate. What do you think should be done about it?

Personally I dont think balkanization would even work because you are not fighting people you are fighting ideas that are not stopped by borders.
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« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2020, 12:09:43 am »
Yeah, y'know...

Liberal fucknuggets lost any right to bitch about 'morality' or 'ethics' in a President when they pushed Bill 'Super Cigar' Clinton into the White House.

Even when people were pointing out he was a philandering creep who couldn't keep it in his pants and relied on his grifting wife and her flunkies to keep his trysts quiet.

So yeah, we're not impressed when people snivel about whatever perceived failings Trump has. Because a lot of it is projection.

And before some fucknugget brings up Stormy Daniels; how'd that lawsuit turn out again? Oh yeah -- he won.

The past four years have been a hilarious game of "spaghetti fight". The Dems threw everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, and he is still going to finish his term.
Nothing stuck, because the Dems are relying on the same old play book, and it's gotten old and predictable. Yeah, they're going to call people an ist and a phobe and a nazi white supremacist. That's what they do to everyone they disagree with.
No. There is a next step, and it involves more gaslighting - the plan is simple: Anyone who disagrees with them will be arrested under terrorism laws. This includes both evangelists, Jews, outspoken blacks, and the like. They HAVE to have this done before 2026. All we've seen so far is the warm-up. They are not liberals by definition - they are MURDEROUS LIBERTINES who are hellbent on creating a new holocaust. This includes LGBT+ people, btw. What they needed was a balkanization of the United States and running Trump vs Clinton got them there. The problem with most people here is they only think what they are taught. Not for themselves. The election, the reset, the roundups, and the eventual war will lead to the utter destruction of ALL FREEDOMS. This is not theory, nor a joke. Can anyone here tell me WHY it is necessary to have those who annoy you, or that you disagree with IMPRISONED OR MURDERED? Or their families? Or their children?

I do not understand 90% of ANY of you! Unbelievable!

For the sake of argument, let's say your predictions are accurate. What do you think should be done about it?
Well, as unfortunate as it sounds, the only way to go forward is to go back - meaning, people have to be reminded of what you wish for others will also fall upon yourself. I admit, the churches - whose job it is to be the keepers of this in society - have failed. As have educators, as well as most of the institutions. For many people,  they believe the left is about caring for humanity, the environment, and the world. Yet no one will look at what actions they have been taking. The left must be convinced that they have swallowed a lie - and I mean it's a huge lie - and get them back to what made them attracted to the left in the first place (meaning the caring bit). In a nutshell, the lie is simple: To SAVE humanity, the environment, and the world in general - to provide comfort and security for the weak and the disenfranchised, that those who do not agree with one aspect - one whit - of the methods being used to accomplish this, they and their families must either become enslaved to those they enslaved, work for those they didn't care about and for free, to see the usefulness of a world without war or violence, those who resist - they and their families must be sacrificed in a new western holocaust - a genocide to ensure that warlike attitudes will be met with disgust and physical discomfort. In other words, they believe to save the world, their neighbors must be MURDERED, and that it is a HOLY THING which will save them. Not religion. Not God. Only Themselves.
THAT is the lie which they believe. Prove it's a lie and their good-intentions are being used against them, and they should remember why they joined the left to begin with.

I'm just afraid it's too late already.
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