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Author Topic: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked  (Read 2828 times)

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2020, 03:30:31 pm »
You're debunking things I never claimed, nor did the article. This is another highly disingenuous tactic used by MSM. "He did say it, but it doesn't mean what you think it means, and it certainly doesn't mean anything we don't want it to mean." Yes, context is important, but it isn't partly false at all, as a matter of fact the way the "fact check" is worded is an obvious attempt to muddy the water and change the context. If you actually read the article, you'd know they made no claims about him controlling or being top boss. I trust MSM fact checks about as much as you trust neon nettle. It's not partly false... what's partly false is USA Today implying that anyone made these claims.
OK then, what is the value of Trey Trainor's statements? He's talking outside his lane on something he admits he hasn't been briefed on and his statements had inaccuracies. So, basically the big proof you propose is because this guy shared his opinion?

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2020, 03:59:08 pm »
You're debunking things I never claimed, nor did the article. This is another highly disingenuous tactic used by MSM. "He did say it, but it doesn't mean what you think it means, and it certainly doesn't mean anything we don't want it to mean." Yes, context is important, but it isn't partly false at all, as a matter of fact the way the "fact check" is worded is an obvious attempt to muddy the water and change the context. If you actually read the article, you'd know they made no claims about him controlling or being top boss. I trust MSM fact checks about as much as you trust neon nettle. It's not partly false... what's partly false is USA Today implying that anyone made these claims.
OK then, what is the value of Trey Trainor's statements? He's talking outside his lane on something he admits he hasn't been briefed on and his statements had inaccuracies. So, basically the big proof you propose is because this guy shared his opinion?

That's your supposition. My statement was that there MAY be big proof coming because of the immense number of affidavits filed. Secondly, I don't believe he is speaking completely outside his lane, I am pretty sure the chairman of the FEC has a good idea of what election fraud looks like, that is USA Today's and your take on it. I wouldn't take that statement alone as definitive proof of much other than something is definitely amiss for him to even make such a statement. Point out the actual inaccuracies that were claimed in the article I posted. They are deliberately vague (using other MSM as their fact checkers is laughable and is indicative of them just repeating the party line) about his supposed inaccuracies because they are changing the context to be able to call it PARTLY FALSE. They are debunking a completely different article than I posted (that other article may indeed be partly false, but it isn't what I posted, so immaterial). Once again, you are reading a lot into things without good cause.
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2020, 04:28:38 pm »
Once again, you are reading a lot into things without good cause.

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« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 04:32:57 pm by shuddemell »
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2020, 09:00:29 pm »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!

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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 12:23:47 am »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.
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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2020, 01:28:48 am »

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2020, 02:05:26 am »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.

As Giuliani said in his introduction to last Thursday's press conference:

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This is representative of our legal team. We're representing President Trump and we're representing the Trump campaign.  Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me and we will present, in brief, the evidence that we've collected over the last - I guess it is two weeks. Also Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this but we're the - I guess we're the senior lawyers.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZINzpFvBL4


You can listen for yourself what he says, unless you think that is a Youtube deep fake of him speaking. But the real question is, will anything come out of the crucial evidence that Powell supposedly has? What I would really like is if people would be willing to discuss the actual evidence of past claims, or stand by predictions of theirs. The should be some sort of falsifiability.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 02:20:04 am »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.

As Giuliani said in his introduction to last Thursday's press conference:

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This is representative of our legal team. We're representing President Trump and we're representing the Trump campaign.  Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me and we will present, in brief, the evidence that we've collected over the last - I guess it is two weeks. Also Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this but we're the - I guess we're the senior lawyers.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZINzpFvBL4


You can listen for yourself what he says, unless you think that is a Youtube deep fake of him speaking. But the real question is, will anything come out of the crucial evidence that Powell supposedly has? What I would really like is if people would be willing to discuss the actual evidence of past claims, or stand by predictions of theirs. The should be some sort of falsifiability.
consolcwby is just stuck in "deny, deny, deny" mode with 110% concentration of Kool-Aid in the blood.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 03:57:28 am »

consolcwby is just stuck in "deny, deny, deny" mode with 110% concentration of Kool-Aid in the blood.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2020, 08:26:17 am »
There were some issues involved with how legal fees and payments needed to be handled. I mean, we can't all just pay them under the table in Chinese cash like the Dems do.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2020, 10:02:46 pm »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.

As Giuliani said in his introduction to last Thursday's press conference:

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This is representative of our legal team. We're representing President Trump and we're representing the Trump campaign.  Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me and we will present, in brief, the evidence that we've collected over the last - I guess it is two weeks. Also Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this but we're the - I guess we're the senior lawyers.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZINzpFvBL4


You can listen for yourself what he says, unless you think that is a Youtube deep fake of him speaking. But the real question is, will anything come out of the crucial evidence that Powell supposedly has? What I would really like is if people would be willing to discuss the actual evidence of past claims, or stand by predictions of theirs. The should be some sort of falsifiability.
consolcwby is just stuck in "deny, deny, deny" mode with 110% concentration of Kool-Aid in the blood.
Here, READ this please: https://mailchi.mp/2270aefe51e4/statement-from-sidney-powell-to-we-the-people?e=3b0771afd3
                                        https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1330671677211029506

She is still the attorney of Michael Flynn. Remember him?...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/michael-flynn-dismiss/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-case-judge-issues-unusual-order-telling-government-to-certify-its-evidence-is-true-and-correct

wow what a bunch of idiots who do not know how hiring an attorney works or how transferance of evidence works! You see, the nice Judge in his case had questions about WHY she was in contact with the Whitehouse - now you know. ::)
But. please don't use your brains! (It may make you dangerous or actually make you realize MURDER OF YOUR NEIGHBORS is a no-no)
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2020, 10:09:22 pm »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.

As Giuliani said in his introduction to last Thursday's press conference:

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This is representative of our legal team. We're representing President Trump and we're representing the Trump campaign.  Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me and we will present, in brief, the evidence that we've collected over the last - I guess it is two weeks. Also Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this but we're the - I guess we're the senior lawyers.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZINzpFvBL4


You can listen for yourself what he says, unless you think that is a Youtube deep fake of him speaking. But the real question is, will anything come out of the crucial evidence that Powell supposedly has? What I would really like is if people would be willing to discuss the actual evidence of past claims, or stand by predictions of theirs. The should be some sort of falsifiability.
consolcwby is just stuck in "deny, deny, deny" mode with 110% concentration of Kool-Aid in the blood.
Here, READ this please: https://mailchi.mp/2270aefe51e4/statement-from-sidney-powell-to-we-the-people?e=3b0771afd3
                                        https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1330671677211029506

She is still the attorney of Michael Flynn. Remember him?...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/michael-flynn-dismiss/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-case-judge-issues-unusual-order-telling-government-to-certify-its-evidence-is-true-and-correct

wow what a bunch of idiots who do not know how hiring an attorney works or how transferance of evidence works! You see, the nice Judge in his case had questions about WHY she was in contact with the Whitehouse - now you know. ::)
But. please don't use your brains! (It may make you dangerous or actually make you realize MURDER OF YOUR NEIGHBORS is a no-no)
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When you go down, when you go down down
She spins your head right round, right round
When you go down, when you go down down

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2020, 12:09:48 am »
As Giuliani said in his introduction to last Thursday's press conference:

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This is representative of our legal team. We're representing President Trump and we're representing the Trump campaign.  Sidney Powell and then Jenna Ellis will follow me and we will present, in brief, the evidence that we've collected over the last - I guess it is two weeks. Also Joseph DiGenova, Victoria Toensing here with me. There are a lot more lawyers working on this but we're the - I guess we're the senior lawyers.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZINzpFvBL4
Here, READ this please: https://mailchi.mp/2270aefe51e4/statement-from-sidney-powell-to-we-the-people?e=3b0771afd3
                                        https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1330671677211029506

So what I read is, Giuliani introduced her last Thursday as one of the senior lawyers representing Trump. Then Giuliani posts that she is not a part of the team. And following that, Powell herself claims that she was never part of the team. I have no idea what legal payments have or have not happened behind the scenes. But what I would watch for is:

(1) Will Powell ever appear alongside Giuliani and other Trump lawyers the way she did last Thursday?
(2) Will the White House otherwise continue to officially promote her claims?
(3) Will those claims will stand up in court?

It seems to me that the White House is currently disavowing itself from Powell, so I'd suspect that these will all turn out "no". I could be proven wrong, and if so, then my bad. Here's Rush Limbaugh discussing it:

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You know, there's all kinds of speculation about what's going on with Sidney Powell. Was she ever really a member of the team? It appears that she was.

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I talked to so many people who were blown away by it, by the very nature of the press conference. They promised blockbuster stuff, and then nothing happened. And that's just not good. I mean, if you're gonna promise blockbuster stuff like that, then there has -- now, I understand -- look, I'm the one that's been telling everybody, this stuff doesn't happen at warp speed, light speed the way cases are made for presentation in court, but if you're gonna do a press conference like that with the promise of blockbusters, then there has to be something more than what that press conference delivered.

Source: https://wiba.iheart.com/featured/rush-limbaugh/content/2020-11-23-pn-rush-limbaugh-the-trump-legal-team-better-deliver-the-bombshell-evidence-fast/

But I guess that just shows Rush Limbaugh is now a puppet of the mainstream media delivering their message.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 12:13:10 am »
Sidney Powell is on the outs with Trump now? Let's see who's next!
Wow. You really can't be this stupid, can you? ::) She was never a Trump Attorney. She is Michael Flynn's attorney who had come into evidence and transferred it to the ACTUAL attorneys. Sigh. Stay away from the MSM FUD, dude.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1327811527123103746

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I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!

So she was a member of the team until she was never a member of the team.