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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #120 on: December 01, 2020, 05:46:12 PM »
I keep seeing statistics stating that right wing white supremacists (even though those two things are not at all synonymous) are responsible for more terroristic violence than leftists. And I don't buy it at all.

Why?

If all this "right wing" violence was going on, with as far left as the media has become, they would be chomping at the bit to get it on the air in front of as many people as possible as often as possible to validate their fucked up world view. The fact that the stories are not showing up on the 6 o'clock news indicates that the stories are just not there.

I don't watch television much, but it seems to me that the violence is getting widespread attention. I think the El Paso Walmart shooting last year was clearly right-wing, and it got a lot of attention. With 23 deaths, that's a big chunk of the violence just in that one incident. The synagogue shootings (Poway and Philidelphia) are also generally considered right wing. There's a lot of wiggle room, though, in what gets classified as "terrorist" as well as what is classified as "right-wing", so I think it's certainly up for debate.

This year, violence has been down so far, thankfully. One can see a breakdown of incidents in things like this report:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states

The trick is in how they include incidents into the list, and how they classify them as left-wing, right-wing, or otherwise. That seems like a potentially quite subjective process. They're not inventing incidents wholesale, though. There genuinely are right-wing killings and plots. This year, for example, there were The Base members who planned murder in Georgia, the Bay Area boogaloo killings, and the plot to kidnap the Michigan governor.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #121 on: December 01, 2020, 05:55:10 PM »
I keep seeing statistics stating that right wing white supremacists (even though those two things are not at all synonymous) are responsible for more terroristic violence than leftists. And I don't buy it at all.

Why?

If all this "right wing" violence was going on, with as far left as the media has become, they would be chomping at the bit to get it on the air in front of as many people as possible as often as possible to validate their fucked up world view. The fact that the stories are not showing up on the 6 o'clock news indicates that the stories are just not there.

I don't watch television much, but it seems to me that the violence is getting widespread attention. I think the El Paso Walmart shooting last year was clearly right-wing, and it got a lot of attention. With 23 deaths, that's a big chunk of the violence just in that one incident. The synagogue shootings (Poway and Philidelphia) are also generally considered right wing. There's a lot of wiggle room, though, in what gets classified as "terrorist" as well as what is classified as "right-wing", so I think it's certainly up for debate.

This year, violence has been down so far, thankfully. One can see a breakdown of incidents in things like this report:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states

The trick is in how they include incidents into the list, and how they classify them as left-wing, right-wing, or otherwise. That seems like a potentially quite subjective process. They're not inventing incidents wholesale, though. There genuinely are right-wing killings and plots. This year, for example, there were The Base members who planned murder in Georgia, the Bay Area boogaloo killings, and the plot to kidnap the Michigan governor.

I suppose it also depends on whether you are counting incidents or individual counts/charges.
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #122 on: December 01, 2020, 11:40:11 PM »
I have not noticed you denouncing even one of the many, many murders committed by right wing extremists in the US.

That is true, not even one of them.

Plenty of concern for all-but-nonexistent voter fraud, though, while ignoring murder. Very right-wing of you.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #123 on: December 01, 2020, 11:42:32 PM »
I keep seeing statistics stating that right wing white supremacists (even though those two things are not at all synonymous) are responsible for more terroristic violence than leftists. And I don't buy it at all.

Why?

If all this "right wing" violence was going on, with as far left as the media has become, they would be chomping at the bit to get it on the air in front of as many people as possible as often as possible to validate their fucked up world view. The fact that the stories are not showing up on the 6 o'clock news indicates that the stories are just not there.

I don't watch television much, but it seems to me that the violence is getting widespread attention. I think the El Paso Walmart shooting last year was clearly right-wing, and it got a lot of attention. With 23 deaths, that's a big chunk of the violence just in that one incident. The synagogue shootings (Poway and Philidelphia) are also generally considered right wing. There's a lot of wiggle room, though, in what gets classified as "terrorist" as well as what is classified as "right-wing", so I think it's certainly up for debate.

This year, violence has been down so far, thankfully. One can see a breakdown of incidents in things like this report:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states

The trick is in how they include incidents into the list, and how they classify them as left-wing, right-wing, or otherwise. That seems like a potentially quite subjective process. They're not inventing incidents wholesale, though. There genuinely are right-wing killings and plots. This year, for example, there were The Base members who planned murder in Georgia, the Bay Area boogaloo killings, and the plot to kidnap the Michigan governor.

The most likely explanation is that the media are not really left-wing, no matter what Joey2k wants to believe.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #124 on: December 02, 2020, 01:16:24 AM »
Without evidence, neither actual or circumstantial, I will let you peeps in on a secret: Many, oh so many, of these shootings, in particular against the Jewish community, is NOT being done by 'Right-Wing Extemists'. In fact, according to my old sources, most of this is being done by the Communists and Commu-Fascists in order to discredit, and sow hatred towards Christians, Patriotic Groups, and at one time Isolationists - now Nationalists (Nationalists as in non-Globalists - not 'White Nationalists' - too many blacks, asians, and hispanics in that group to be considered white!). In fact, this campaign of demonization began in the late 1960's being funded by both Castro's Cuba and the Soviet Union. Now, of course, it is being funded by a plethora of countries, in particular, those countries which have much to lose if globalism doesn't go through, read China, Iran, the Congo, et al. and the surprising actor in this is the EU, in particular Germany and the UK.

So, be aware that those who are 'in-the-know' are pissed. Pissed enough to do the same to the other side.
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #125 on: December 02, 2020, 01:09:28 PM »
I keep seeing statistics stating that right wing white supremacists (even though those two things are not at all synonymous) are responsible for more terroristic violence than leftists. And I don't buy it at all.

Why?

If all this "right wing" violence was going on, with as far left as the media has become, they would be chomping at the bit to get it on the air in front of as many people as possible as often as possible to validate their fucked up world view. The fact that the stories are not showing up on the 6 o'clock news indicates that the stories are just not there.

I don't watch television much, but it seems to me that the violence is getting widespread attention. I think the El Paso Walmart shooting last year was clearly right-wing, and it got a lot of attention. With 23 deaths, that's a big chunk of the violence just in that one incident. The synagogue shootings (Poway and Philidelphia) are also generally considered right wing. There's a lot of wiggle room, though, in what gets classified as "terrorist" as well as what is classified as "right-wing", so I think it's certainly up for debate.

This year, violence has been down so far, thankfully. One can see a breakdown of incidents in things like this report:

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states

The trick is in how they include incidents into the list, and how they classify them as left-wing, right-wing, or otherwise. That seems like a potentially quite subjective process. They're not inventing incidents wholesale, though. There genuinely are right-wing killings and plots. This year, for example, there were The Base members who planned murder in Georgia, the Bay Area boogaloo killings, and the plot to kidnap the Michigan governor.

The most likely explanation is that the media are not really left-wing, no matter what Joey2k wants to believe.

Now I know you're either completely oblivious or completely intellectually dishonest
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2020, 02:54:35 PM »
I have not noticed you denouncing even one of the many, many murders committed by right wing extremists in the US.

That is true, not even one of them.

Plenty of concern for all-but-nonexistent voter fraud, though, while ignoring murder. Very right-wing of you.

Was the question disavow or ignore?  I am having trouble keeping up with your goal posts.
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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2020, 04:05:37 PM »
Without evidence, neither actual or circumstantial, I will let you peeps in on a secret: Many, oh so many, of these shootings, in particular against the Jewish community, is NOT being done by 'Right-Wing Extemists'. In fact, according to my old sources, most of this is being done by the Communists and Commu-Fascists in order to discredit, and sow hatred towards Christians, Patriotic Groups, and at one time Isolationists - now Nationalists (Nationalists as in non-Globalists - not 'White Nationalists' - too many blacks, asians, and hispanics in that group to be considered white!). In fact, this campaign of demonization began in the late 1960's being funded by both Castro's Cuba and the Soviet Union. Now, of course, it is being funded by a plethora of countries, in particular, those countries which have much to lose if globalism doesn't go through, read China, Iran, the Congo, et al. and the surprising actor in this is the EU, in particular Germany and the UK.

So, be aware that those who are 'in-the-know' are pissed. Pissed enough to do the same to the other side.
But not yet.
Hang on to your jox!

The other way is already happening. In the Bay Area boogaloo shootings this year, the perpetrators Steven Carrillo and Robert Justus explicitly talked to each other about using the Black Lives Matter protests as cover for their police shootings. As I recall, there are captured messages saying exactly this. And it worked for a time - since the first shooting was originally reported as BLM violence.

As for the other side, are you claiming that Robert Bowers (the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) or John Timothy Earnest (the Poway synagogue shooter) are actually Communists or Commu-Fascists? That seems very difficult to pull off. There have been interviews with their friends and family, and examination of their social media and other writings. It's generally easier to pull off a false flag if the perpetrator is *not* caught.

False flag operations do exist - but overwhelmingly, violent terrorists are *not* masterful actors who perfect deep covers. They're not genius superspies -- they're crazed violent assholes.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #128 on: December 02, 2020, 04:22:04 PM »
sitting in front of a mirror typing one-handed while he furiously masturbates to the dream of a Leftist Narrative.

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Re: GOP Mad About Election Because Their Voter Suppression Efforts Were Blocked
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2020, 04:38:23 PM »
sitting in front of a mirror typing one-handed while he furiously masturbates to the dream of a Leftist Narrative.

jeff37923 spends a lot of time imagining sex involving people he doesn't like.

Still better than being an intellectually dishonest troll fapping his way through life.
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