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[SHARK]

Yeah, whiny bitch cock-sucking traitor. KILL THEM ALL. Every fucking Communist hunted down and killed like the fucking evil rats that they are. Communists are not just like preferring a different flavour of ice cream than you or I might prefer--no, they are evil fucking tyrants that want to kill you and enslave you to their godless and terrible fucking ideology.

Fuck the Communists. You damn right they need to be killed. Every fucking one of them needs to bathe in Napalm, baby! ALL OF THEM!

Meanwhile in the education thread, SHARK said:

Fuck the "Paradox of Tolerance." That's just a fancied up way of crushing freedom of speech, and crushing anyone that doesn't suck down the fucking Marxist jello.

Open wide, and gulp down our tolerance jello!

Fucking Marxist cuck probably has that lit up, dewy-eyed soy-boy look, wearing pajamas, while getting fucked in the ass.

TRUE freedom means there is people in society allowed to say things that you consider to be racist, bigoted, phobic, or otherwise "intolerant."

In my opinion, TRUE freedom means that people in society are allowed to say things and do things that you don't like - including fucking each other up the ass, eating soy, and espousing communism as well as being racist, bigoted, and phobic.

That means, no, one can't get to just kill communists or blacklist them. One has to debate them and vote them down, just like white supremacists, radical Islamists, and all other fringe groups.

Greetings!

Yeah, Jhkim, but Marxists actively and constantly work to corrupt and destroy the culture. It isn't just like preferring a different flavour of ice cream, or a group of silly hippies that want to be left alone on some isolated commune. They actively work to corrupt everything, so Marxists need to be resisted and opposed, everywhere. Marxists hate our culture, and seek to destroy us. They are enemies of the Republic, and of Western Civilization, everywhere.

It's that simple.

I have a number of friends who consider themselves to be Marxists. I don't agree with their economic policy, but they are decent people - as well as legal citizens of our Republic.

From what you say, you want to violently murder them.

You might say, "Well, I didn't really mean that - I was exaggerating because that's what people do online." --- and I'd say that's equally true of Marxist talk online. People talk shit.

Free speech doesn't just mean that you're allowed to like different flavors of ice cream. Free speech means that people can advocate for radically different values. Here on this board I've had some interesting conversations with those who want a Western ethno-state and consider me to be an inherent affront to their values -- since I was raised with a mix of Western and Eastern culture. I've argued against their views, but I don't claim they are enemies who should be killed.

Greetings!

Right. That's because you haven't served in the military where it is your job and mission in life to resist, defeat, and kill fucking Communists--because they hate America, and are enemies of the Republic.

I have, however. Just because you like getting all sweet and cozy with Marxists, doesn't mean anyone else should do the same. Communists are enemies of America, Jhkim, whether you want to accept that or believe it, or not, it still remains true.

Yeah, in the military, when an officer asked you the question, "Are you now or have you ever been a Communist?" If you answered yes, the government would have arrested you and sent you to fucking prison, Jhkim.

But go ahead, coddle the Marxists all you want.

I won't. Not now, and not ever.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Oddly enough, during my time with the US Army (2009-2014), I saw numerous counter-examples to all your bullshit. I had conversations with officers that were not aggressively hostile to the ideas of Communism even if they were not in support of it. They certainly didn't apply the label as freely as you do toward everyone that thinks even slightly differently from yourself, and the idea of using force against fellow Americans for their differing beliefs was far more abhorrent to them than the those others having those beliefs.

Like I said before,  you're horribly damaged and the tragedy is that you think everyone else has the problem.

Greetings!

That's not a surprise, Happyderp. That's the "New Army". You obviously approve of the policies and attitudes embraced by the "New Army". Yay! Good for you, cuck.

I, however, come from a different era. Yes, so horribly damaged.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[SHARK]

Yeah, in the military, when an officer asked you the question, "Are you now or have you ever been a Communist?" If you answered yes, the government would have arrested you and sent you to fucking prison, Jhkim.

I have not been in the military, but this contradicts what I understand from other sources - so I would want confirmation from somewhere.

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Army officials say soldiers like the one at Fort Drum who shared photos of himself with pro-communist messages under his uniform have the right to join political parties and engage in speech that many Americans may find offensive.

Soldiers are permitted to be members of the Communist Party, American Nazi Party, or in the case of Army 2nd Lt. Spenser Rapone, a supporter of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Source: https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2017/09/armys_position_on_fort_drum_soldier_its_ok_to_be_a_communist.html

According to what you say, Rapone would immediately have been thrown into prison, but he was not. Within a year, he did resign from the army with an administrative discharge, but he remained free and gave an interview.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/commie-cadet-spenser-rapone-socialism-dsa-army-military

That's also true of belonging to a neo-nazi or white supremacist group.

Membership in a white supremacist or neo-Nazi group won't necessarily get a U.S. service member tossed out of the military, defense officials told a House subcommittee Tuesday.

The officials, including representatives of Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Army's Criminal Investigation Division, appeared to make a distinction between membership in an extremist organization and "active participation" in deciding on recruitment and retention.

The officials also told a hearing of the House Armed Services subcommittee on personnel that they had no reliable data on how many service members had been administratively discharged for espousing white supremacist ideology or how many potential recruits had been barred from enlisting.

Source: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/12/neo-nazi-group-membership-may-not-get-you-booted-military-officials-say.html

Greetings!

Yes, of course those are what your sources say, Jhkim. We have a woke fucking military now, haven't you heard? Of course they are all sensitive and inclusive now, and full of cucks. Our military is fucked now.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[HappyDaze]

Yeah, in the military, when an officer asked you the question, "Are you now or have you ever been a Communist?" If you answered yes, the government would have arrested you and sent you to fucking prison, Jhkim.

I have not been in the military, but this contradicts what I understand from other sources - so I would want confirmation from somewhere.

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Army officials say soldiers like the one at Fort Drum who shared photos of himself with pro-communist messages under his uniform have the right to join political parties and engage in speech that many Americans may find offensive.

Soldiers are permitted to be members of the Communist Party, American Nazi Party, or in the case of Army 2nd Lt. Spenser Rapone, a supporter of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Source: https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2017/09/armys_position_on_fort_drum_soldier_its_ok_to_be_a_communist.html

According to what you say, Rapone would immediately have been thrown into prison, but he was not. Within a year, he did resign from the army with an administrative discharge, but he remained free and gave an interview.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/commie-cadet-spenser-rapone-socialism-dsa-army-military

That's also true of belonging to a neo-nazi or white supremacist group.

Membership in a white supremacist or neo-Nazi group won't necessarily get a U.S. service member tossed out of the military, defense officials told a House subcommittee Tuesday.

The officials, including representatives of Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Army's Criminal Investigation Division, appeared to make a distinction between membership in an extremist organization and "active participation" in deciding on recruitment and retention.

The officials also told a hearing of the House Armed Services subcommittee on personnel that they had no reliable data on how many service members had been administratively discharged for espousing white supremacist ideology or how many potential recruits had been barred from enlisting.

Source: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/12/neo-nazi-group-membership-may-not-get-you-booted-military-officials-say.html

Greetings!

Yes, of course those are what your sources say, Jhkim. We have a woke fucking military now, haven't you heard? Of course they are all sensitive and inclusive now, and full of cucks. Our military is fucked now.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Again we have SHARK's delusional rantings that the problems are with everyone else but him. I hope he shares these views with the people at the VA. They can help him.

[Ratman_tf]

Feminism? Also based in Marxism.

Feminism isn't based in Marxism There are Marxist strains of thought in third and fourth wave feminism, but feminism as a whole is unrelated.

Greetings!

Well, clearly--as you mentioned, third and fourth wave feminism is influenced by Marxism. Who really cares about "First Wave or Second Wave" Feminism? Beyond that, Feminism, like so many other aspects of society has been exploited and used to further corrupt and divide society, and to destroy the culture. That is a key strategy of Communists in weakening and corrupting a culture and making it ripe for destruction and overthrow. It is all part of the terrible soup, Pat.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

But Marxism is not essential to feminism, it's just some feminists are also Marxists. In fact, feminism is ultimately a liberal philosophy, and I'm using liberal in the Founding Fathers sense.

I'd argue that feminism is ultimately a post Marxist philosophy since the vast majority of it's proponents believe in the idea of patriarchy and women's rights as a class struggle between the oppressor and the oppressed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Sentiments

I've heard a few feminists who don't, but they're pretty rare and far-between in the movement.

I'm not familiar with that document, but I looked over the list of sentiments, and they all seem to be basic liberal principles. Equal treatment under the law, equal rights, that sort of thing. I don't see anything Marxist in it. It's about oppression, but not in Marxist/postmodernism sense of implicit systems of power, but in the liberal sense of lacking basic (negative) rights, along with some arguments in favor of personal responsibility.

What I wanted to illustrate there is that the Declaration casts men as "tyrants" who oppressed women.

You're correct that most modern feminists are heavily influenced by Marxists, but I wasn't arguing against that. My point is the basic idea, principles, and origin of feminism is liberal, not Marxist. The shift toward Marxist ideas came in the third wave. Which has been the source of all those apparent dichotomies like "I believe men and woman are equal, but I'm not a feminist" (endorsing the principles of classical liberal feminism, but rejecting the term because they consider it corrupted) followed by "If you're not a feminist, you hate women!" (trying to trap the first person by saying their rejection of the word feminism means they reject the classic liberal principles, even though they literally espoused them in the same breath).

Well, what do you consider the origin of feminism? There was a strong strain of Marxism/Communism/Socialism through the 2nd wave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redstockings

[jhkim]

This past Sunday I told a story in my church service about my grandfather, Bong Kook. During the Korean War, he was hauled up in front of a communist tribunal and accused of being a Japanese collaborator during the occupation (which he kind of was). After this, they summarily put him out in front of a firing squad. The squad actually pulled their triggers, but it turned out that their guns weren't loaded and it was just an intimidation tactic. Later, they did the same thing again, with him not knowing if this time the guns were actually loaded.

That gives me a bad impression of communists - but even moreso, it gives me bad impression about people who think it's good to just take people out and murder them simply for their political beliefs.

When SHARK says things like this:

Yeah, whiny bitch cock-sucking traitor. KILL THEM ALL. Every fucking Communist hunted down and killed like the fucking evil rats that they are. Communists are not just like preferring a different flavour of ice cream than you or I might prefer--no, they are evil fucking tyrants that want to kill you and enslave you to their godless and terrible fucking ideology.

Fuck the Communists. You damn right they need to be killed. Every fucking one of them needs to bathe in Napalm, baby! ALL OF THEM!

That happened during the Korean War too. Tens of thousands of people were taken out and massacred for being communists. There are skeletons piled high in the caves of Jeju Island, outside Busan, and more -- all civilians killed by ROK forces.

This isn't cool or necessary. It's totalitarian suppression.

[SHARK]

This past Sunday I told a story in my church service about my grandfather, Bong Kook. During the Korean War, he was hauled up in front of a communist tribunal and accused of being a Japanese collaborator during the occupation (which he kind of was). After this, they summarily put him out in front of a firing squad. The squad actually pulled their triggers, but it turned out that their guns weren't loaded and it was just an intimidation tactic. Later, they did the same thing again, with him not knowing if this time the guns were actually loaded.

That gives me a bad impression of communists - but even moreso, it gives me bad impression about people who think it's good to just take people out and murder them simply for their political beliefs.

When SHARK says things like this:

Yeah, whiny bitch cock-sucking traitor. KILL THEM ALL. Every fucking Communist hunted down and killed like the fucking evil rats that they are. Communists are not just like preferring a different flavour of ice cream than you or I might prefer--no, they are evil fucking tyrants that want to kill you and enslave you to their godless and terrible fucking ideology.

Fuck the Communists. You damn right they need to be killed. Every fucking one of them needs to bathe in Napalm, baby! ALL OF THEM!

That happened during the Korean War too. Tens of thousands of people were taken out and massacred for being communists. There are skeletons piled high in the caves of Jeju Island, outside Busan, and more -- all civilians killed by ROK forces.

This isn't cool or necessary. It's totalitarian suppression.

Greetings!

Well, here you go again, Jhkim, with your sanctimonious conflation of subjects, and constructing Straw Man arguments. I'm not talking about "Totalitarian Suppression" or "Murdering people for their political beliefs". I was talking about COMMUNISTS--who are at their core, enemies of America. The COMMUNISTS seek to enslave everyone under Communist tyranny, and subjugate and murder anyone that opposes them. You somehow like to believe it is morally virtuous to befriend Communists, to coddle them, and tolerate them in our midst. Here, have a rainbow-striped lollipop, Jhkim.

I don't agree with you. I don't believe there is anything "morally virtuous" about accepting Communists within society. I believe it is naïve, foolish, and morally irresponsible. It is essentially equivalent to putting your family, friends, children, and fellow citizens, future generations--even your entire society--at risk on the ideological chopping block, of precariously dangling them over the abyss of darkness and damnation, so you can feel warm fuzzies inside.

Several generations ago, we essentially watched our leaders, our politicians, our brainwashed, traitorous academics, proceed to do exactly that. And now, 50 years later, America is slipping into the twilight of the damned. I don't think that was a wise, or righteous, or moral, or faithful course of action.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ghostmaker]

https://humanevents.com/2021/06/09/behind-the-beret-battalion-commander-reportedly-tells-troops-white-people-are-part-of-the-problem/

How, exactly, am I (or anyone else) supposed to react to this? Aside from 'this battalion commander needs to be dragged up on charges of conduct unbecoming'?

[HappyDaze]

https://humanevents.com/2021/06/09/behind-the-beret-battalion-commander-reportedly-tells-troops-white-people-are-part-of-the-problem/

How, exactly, am I (or anyone else) supposed to react to this? Aside from 'this battalion commander needs to be dragged up on charges of conduct unbecoming'?

The rational way to respond is to see what the investigation uncovers and what actions they officially take. What you have so far are unconfirmed bits of what the guy "reportedly said" and some anonymous one-line responses.

[Pat]

Well, here you go again, Jhkim, with your sanctimonious conflation of subjects, and constructing Straw Man arguments. I'm not talking about "Totalitarian Suppression" or "Murdering people for their political beliefs". I was talking about COMMUNISTS--who are at their core, enemies of America. The COMMUNISTS seek to enslave everyone under Communist tyranny, and subjugate and murder anyone that opposes them. You somehow like to believe it is morally virtuous to befriend Communists, to coddle them, and tolerate them in our midst. Here, have a rainbow-striped lollipop, Jhkim.

I don't agree with you. I don't believe there is anything "morally virtuous" about accepting Communists within society. I believe it is naïve, foolish, and morally irresponsible. It is essentially equivalent to putting your family, friends, children, and fellow citizens, future generations--even your entire society--at risk on the ideological chopping block, of precariously dangling them over the abyss of darkness and damnation, so you can feel warm fuzzies inside.

Several generations ago, we essentially watched our leaders, our politicians, our brainwashed, traitorous academics, proceed to do exactly that. And now, 50 years later, America is slipping into the twilight of the damned. I don't think that was a wise, or righteous, or moral, or faithful course of action.

When you say they should "bathe in napalm", you sound like a supervillain from the Tick.

[Trond]

https://humanevents.com/2021/06/09/behind-the-beret-battalion-commander-reportedly-tells-troops-white-people-are-part-of-the-problem/

How, exactly, am I (or anyone else) supposed to react to this? Aside from 'this battalion commander needs to be dragged up on charges of conduct unbecoming'?

The rational way to respond is to see what the investigation uncovers and what actions they officially take. What you have so far are unconfirmed bits of what the guy "reportedly said" and some anonymous one-line responses.

"Fervent anti-racist and anti-sexist". I also believe his Twitter account has been deleted. I'm going to go out on a limb and call it as true already. Let's see if it holds up

[HappyDaze]

Well, here you go again, Jhkim, with your sanctimonious conflation of subjects, and constructing Straw Man arguments. I'm not talking about "Totalitarian Suppression" or "Murdering people for their political beliefs". I was talking about COMMUNISTS--who are at their core, enemies of America. The COMMUNISTS seek to enslave everyone under Communist tyranny, and subjugate and murder anyone that opposes them. You somehow like to believe it is morally virtuous to befriend Communists, to coddle them, and tolerate them in our midst. Here, have a rainbow-striped lollipop, Jhkim.

I don't agree with you. I don't believe there is anything "morally virtuous" about accepting Communists within society. I believe it is naïve, foolish, and morally irresponsible. It is essentially equivalent to putting your family, friends, children, and fellow citizens, future generations--even your entire society--at risk on the ideological chopping block, of precariously dangling them over the abyss of darkness and damnation, so you can feel warm fuzzies inside.

Several generations ago, we essentially watched our leaders, our politicians, our brainwashed, traitorous academics, proceed to do exactly that. And now, 50 years later, America is slipping into the twilight of the damned. I don't think that was a wise, or righteous, or moral, or faithful course of action.

When you say they should "bathe in napalm", you sound like a supervillain from the Tick.

More like a delusional nutcase that needs psychiatric treatment.

[Trond]

Look, SHARK ranting again about how he's been programmed to be a hyper-aggressive piece of shit that sees everyone that doesn't agree with him as the enemy and therefore an acceptable target of violence. He admits he's been indoctrinated to be a dumbass, but he sees no problems with that 'cuz it's everyone else that's fucked up. Real life must be so hard for him.

This video is actually pretty accurate in capturing this thread

Having said that, I know of few things that can kill the human spirit of enterprise and creativity the way communism can. It's actually quite remarkable. It's so counter to human nature that it often ends in mass murder to keep people in line.

[KingCheops]

Look, SHARK ranting again about how he's been programmed to be a hyper-aggressive piece of shit that sees everyone that doesn't agree with him as the enemy and therefore an acceptable target of violence. He admits he's been indoctrinated to be a dumbass, but he sees no problems with that 'cuz it's everyone else that's fucked up. Real life must be so hard for him.

This video is actually pretty accurate in capturing this thread

Having said that, I know of few things that can kill the human spirit of enterprise and creativity the way communism can. It's actually quite remarkable. It's so counter to human nature that it often ends in mass murder to keep people in line.

Well I mean I could work hard to get something done and get exactly the same reward as the fat purple haired bitch who sat on her couch all day...or I could sit on the couch all day.

Communism on a national scale is stupid as fuck.  Communism only works on a small scale but even then you need some sort of reinforcement mechanism via religion or elders or something.

[Ghostmaker]

Communism: ideals so good they have to be mandatory!

[Ratman_tf]

Look, SHARK ranting again about how he's been programmed to be a hyper-aggressive piece of shit that sees everyone that doesn't agree with him as the enemy and therefore an acceptable target of violence. He admits he's been indoctrinated to be a dumbass, but he sees no problems with that 'cuz it's everyone else that's fucked up. Real life must be so hard for him.

This video is actually pretty accurate in capturing this thread

Having said that, I know of few things that can kill the human spirit of enterprise and creativity the way communism can. It's actually quite remarkable. It's so counter to human nature that it often ends in mass murder to keep people in line.

I dunno. There's a kind of strawman of being anti-Communism that portrays anyone who is earnest as a brainwashed psycho. Personally I made a lot of excuses for Communism until I learned a lot more about it.