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So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?

Started by DM_Curt, November 09, 2021, 04:01:58 PM

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Shasarak on November 21, 2021, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 10:22:20 AM
The cope and seethe is so delicious. They NEEDED Rittenhouse guilty, and they didn't get it.

Now you have retards asking 'but can the prosecution appeal?'. And if any of those dumb fucks had taken a high-school level civics course, they'd know the answer (for the terminally unprepared, it's no).

And plenty of 'oh my god, right wing death squads are coming!' without any thought about what we saw ALL. LAST. YEAR.

Dont worry, Ghostmaker, the Feds have got your back!

Nadler is going to make sure Rittenhouse gets his justice.
Normally I'd laugh, but we just watched the fibbies raid Project Veritas reporters' apartments, collect material, then leak some of it to the NYT.

I honestly think the DOJ is dumb enough to try something.

Melan

Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 10:22:20 AMAnd plenty of 'oh my god, right wing death squads are coming!' without any thought about what we saw ALL. LAST. YEAR.
RPGNet was hallucinating right-wing death squads a few weeks after Obama was inaugurated. It is a mental illness.
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3catcircus

#302
Quote from: SHARK on November 21, 2021, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: Pat on November 21, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: wmarshal on November 21, 2021, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: Kiero on November 21, 2021, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: wmarshal on November 21, 2021, 12:04:40 PM
Only 1 person was killed by the authorities on January 6, and it's not like the rioters tried to force their way in after that.

What "riot"? They were let in, they didn't force their way into the building.
It may have started that way, but it devolved into a riot. Take a look at 2nd picture in the article. That's not people being let in. Tear gas doesn't get deployed as a part of letting people in. When the crowd of people Ashli Babbitt was with tried to force their way into the Speaker's Lobby that was not people being let in. Did some of them make the mistake that they'd be treated the same as the ANTIFA rioters? Yes, it was not equal treatment compared the ANTIFA rioters. What we need is for the authorities to start treating the ANTIFA rioters the same as those on Jan 6th, because the authorities are never going to treat the Jan 6th rioters as kindly as they have ANTIFA. People defending their communities against ANTIFA may be what it takes for some of these authorities to step back in and do their jobs.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/capitol-police-intelligence-report-before-capitol-breach-warned-congress-itself-could-be-targeted.amp
So you support the pograms and forced recantations of everyone who was involved, even those who just waltzed in when they were invited by the police, stayed within the ropes, and then quietly left?

No, what we need is a proportional, measured response that can distinguish between people who are peacefully protesting, those who are getting rowdy or doing things pushing against barriers, those who are engaged in wanton destruction of property, and those who are engaging in highly dangerous behavior like throwing molotovs. We need to recognize the threat presented by large anonymous crowds, while at the same time recognizing the bad actors don't represent the group, and that charges, if necessary, should be based on an individual's personal actions and behavior instead of their mere presence or presumed political affiliation.

Greetings!

Yes, Pat, I agree with this. I know I can get emotional, and sick of these scum and rant about killing them all. Part of me thinks that would be good. Part of me though, likes what you say here, too.

See? I am *Nuanced* ;D and complex!

The trouble with such an approach though, is that requires genuine commitment, integrity, and a ruthless fidelity to discipline, order, and law, while at the same time keeping a good faith commitment to compassion and justice.

I don't think we have many people like that in our court system, law enforcement, or especially the government. I know there are some, but I think their numbers are fewer and fewer. That was the expectation for everything in jurisprudence 40 years ago.

Now though, Pat? Watching this whole corrupt trial where the prosecution literally wipes their ass with the constitution, with justice, and all these Liberals in the media--Joy Reid, Al Sharpton, lots of other blacks--and lots of politicians--Corey Bush, AOC, Ilhan, whoever the fuck--all demanding that the innocent white boy be fucking destroyed, and justice be damned?

That doesn't incline me to feel merciful, Pat. You know what I'm saying?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Here's the problem though - while I think everyone who goes into law enforcement probably does so with the best off intentions, let's not lose sight of the fact that it only requires a D average in social studies (which is only place where they might get exposed to a modicum of civics) to graduate from most public high schools and the police academy is nowhere near enough training (especially as compared to some countries which actually require a college degree to become a police officer). We also don't do enough to screen the people who definitely should not become cops in the first place - those guys who were bullies in high school who never benefited from their victims having fought back and who lol at being a cop as the opportunity to treat someone like shit with no repercussions.  And most cops are going to obey orders.  Even when those orders come from officials whose only claim to fame was they were not as dumb as their peers in high school such that they percolated into a law degree before running for public office or entering government employ.

That it took a single 17 year old boy to have the moral turpitude to be the*only* person willing to defy a mob of rioters is the tragedy - instead of declaring him a white supremacist murderer, people should have been demanding that the mayor and the governor be removed from office for turning the streets over to the mob instead of restoring order after 3 days of rioting over a thug who was shot 7 times after having been tasered, yet he still decided to confront police officers with a knife.  Oh, and according to the media he dead - even though he's very much alive and even though no charges were filed against the officers.

Neoplatonist1

Quote from: 3catcircus on November 21, 2021, 05:29:26 PMThat it took a single 17 year old boy to have the moral turpitude temerity to be the*only* person willing to defy a mob of rioters is the tragedy - instead of declaring him a white supremacist murderer, people should have been demanding that the mayor and the governor be removed from office for turning the streets over to the mob instead of restoring order after 3 days of rioting over a thug who was shot 7 times after having been tasered, yet he still decided to confront police officers with a knife.  Oh, and according to the media he dead - even though he's very much alive and even though no charges were filed against the officers.

Fixed that for you.

3catcircus

#304
Quote from: Neoplatonist1 on November 21, 2021, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on November 21, 2021, 05:29:26 PMThat it took a single 17 year old boy to have the moral turpitude temerity to be the*only* person willing to defy a mob of rioters is the tragedy - instead of declaring him a white supremacist murderer, people should have been demanding that the mayor and the governor be removed from office for turning the streets over to the mob instead of restoring order after 3 days of rioting over a thug who was shot 7 times after having been tasered, yet he still decided to confront police officers with a knife.  Oh, and according to the media he dead - even though he's very much alive and even though no charges were filed against the officers.

Fixed that for you.

Fucking android autocorrect...  >:(

How the hell did it get "turpitude" from "authority?!?"

Zelen

Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
I honestly think the DOJ is dumb enough to try something.

Is it really dumb to repeatedly target American citizens (including the President) with illegal actions, if there are no meaningful negative consequences for doing so, and plenty of positive consequences?

From my standpoint the FBI/CIA/DOJ/SoS/Whatever have been getting away with doing blatantly illegal stuff for decades and they've only gotten more powerful by doing it.

Shasarak

Quote from: Zelen on November 21, 2021, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
I honestly think the DOJ is dumb enough to try something.

Is it really dumb to repeatedly target American citizens (including the President) with illegal actions, if there are no meaningful negative consequences for doing so, and plenty of positive consequences?

From my standpoint the FBI/CIA/DOJ/SoS/Whatever have been getting away with doing blatantly illegal stuff for decades and they've only gotten more powerful by doing it.

At least they have always been decent enough to do blatantly illegal stuff where no one can see them doing it.
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3catcircus

Quote from: Shasarak on November 21, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
Quote from: Zelen on November 21, 2021, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
I honestly think the DOJ is dumb enough to try something.

Is it really dumb to repeatedly target American citizens (including the President) with illegal actions, if there are no meaningful negative consequences for doing so, and plenty of positive consequences?

From my standpoint the FBI/CIA/DOJ/SoS/Whatever have been getting away with doing blatantly illegal stuff for decades and they've only gotten more powerful by doing it.

At least they have always been decent enough to do blatantly illegal stuff where no one can see them doing it.

Well - it used to be that way, and it used to be mainly focused on meddling in other countries' politics.  A coup here, a color revolution there, and everyone's happy...  Nowadays, they are exactly like various other organizations like the ACLU, ADL, JDL, etc. They've succeeded in their original mission and now they have no reason to exist - but gotta keep them Benjamins flowing, so they have to invent new things to fight against. 

What people don't realize is this isn't new - it's just that the newer generations of those in charge of the 3-letter agencies aren't as competent at skullduggery as the original guys who were highly educated ivy leaguers who deep down actually did have a kernel of patriotism.  With the expansion of Marxist teachings into colleges and the admittance of academically-unqualified students who happen to be the right color of minority (no Asians need apply), the ranks of 3 letter agencies are replete with hidden communists who hate America.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: 3catcircus on November 22, 2021, 09:07:53 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on November 21, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
Quote from: Zelen on November 21, 2021, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 21, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
I honestly think the DOJ is dumb enough to try something.

Is it really dumb to repeatedly target American citizens (including the President) with illegal actions, if there are no meaningful negative consequences for doing so, and plenty of positive consequences?

From my standpoint the FBI/CIA/DOJ/SoS/Whatever have been getting away with doing blatantly illegal stuff for decades and they've only gotten more powerful by doing it.

At least they have always been decent enough to do blatantly illegal stuff where no one can see them doing it.

Well - it used to be that way, and it used to be mainly focused on meddling in other countries' politics.  A coup here, a color revolution there, and everyone's happy...  Nowadays, they are exactly like various other organizations like the ACLU, ADL, JDL, etc. They've succeeded in their original mission and now they have no reason to exist - but gotta keep them Benjamins flowing, so they have to invent new things to fight against. 

What people don't realize is this isn't new - it's just that the newer generations of those in charge of the 3-letter agencies aren't as competent at skullduggery as the original guys who were highly educated ivy leaguers who deep down actually did have a kernel of patriotism.  With the expansion of Marxist teachings into colleges and the admittance of academically-unqualified students who happen to be the right color of minority (no Asians need apply), the ranks of 3 letter agencies are replete with hidden communists who hate America.
That last bit bears repeating.

I don't know how many of you got to see the OIG report regarding the FBI's handling of Clinton's emails, but holy fucking shit was it bad. It did NOT paint the fibbies in a good light even by 'villain' standards. We're talking 'jobber villains that Spider-Man forgets five minutes after he's webbed them to a lamppost' levels of stupid.

That's probably what's keeping us alive at this point: the opposition is so rock fucking stupid a serious maskirovka push could probably screw them up beyond all hope.

Trond

I wonder if the Waukesha car-terrorist was somehow enraged by the Rittenhouse verdict. Lots of reports are coming out that he's a far-leftist.

Kiero

Quote from: Trond on November 22, 2021, 11:09:50 AM
I wonder if the Waukesha car-terrorist was somehow enraged by the Rittenhouse verdict. Lots of reports are coming out that he's a far-leftist.

I saw something saying Rosenbaum was his lover in prison.
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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Kiero on November 22, 2021, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Trond on November 22, 2021, 11:09:50 AM
I wonder if the Waukesha car-terrorist was somehow enraged by the Rittenhouse verdict. Lots of reports are coming out that he's a far-leftist.

I saw something saying Rosenbaum was his lover in prison.
Doubtful. Rosenbaum liked little boys.

No, my guess is he's just a garden variety scumbag who decided he hated people and had the excuse he wanted to let it out.

He'll get his day in court. I'm sure one of our resident bootlickers will be along shortly though to tell us how it was all a big misunderstanding and he was Oppressed By The System.

3catcircus

Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 22, 2021, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: Kiero on November 22, 2021, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: Trond on November 22, 2021, 11:09:50 AM
I wonder if the Waukesha car-terrorist was somehow enraged by the Rittenhouse verdict. Lots of reports are coming out that he's a far-leftist.

I saw something saying Rosenbaum was his lover in prison.
Doubtful. Rosenbaum liked little boys.

No, my guess is he's just a garden variety scumbag who decided he hated people and had the excuse he wanted to let it out.

He'll get his day in court. I'm sure one of our resident bootlickers will be along shortly though to tell us how it was all a big misunderstanding and he was Oppressed By The System.

Local authorities are claiming that they believe it was not terrorism and he was just fleeing a knife fight crime scene.  This after being released on $1000 bail for previous crimes while having a lengthy criminal record.

Perhaps if the career criminal had been left inside while awaiting trial this wouldn't have happened, regardless of why he did it...

Trond

#313
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462636942126993410

The way some news outlets are handling it is pretty damn pathetic.
"It was a black guy with dreadlocks"
"I need to remind you that you are on live TV!"

....and turns out that was an accurate description.
But no, I don't think this was just him fleeing, or some sort of general malice towards humanity (though he's probably a misanthrope).
He's talked about doing this before, he's rapped about how bad Trump and the cops are etc etc.

SHARK

Quote from: Trond on November 22, 2021, 11:40:38 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1462636942126993410

The way some news outlets are handling it is pretty damn pathetic.
"It was a black guy with dreadlocks"
"I need to remind you that you are on live TV!"

....and turns out that was an accurate description.
But no, I don't think this was just him fleeing, or some sort of general malice towards humanity (though he's probably a misanthrope).
He's talked about doing this before, he's rapped about how bad Trump and the cops are etc etc.

Greetings!

Yep! Just yet another Leftist scum bag! Fucking animals. B-u-t us L-e-ftisstsss are principled! We're intellectual and educated!!

Watch how the cock-sucking Leftist Media spins this, too.

Napalm. They all need to drink napalm. ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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