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Author Topic: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?  (Read 34563 times)

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2021, 09:37:17 PM »
The feds are absolutely complicit in crime because they refuse to enforce the border while many crimes are the result of criminal gangs such as MS-13 infiltrating the US, not to mention cartels.  They know who these people are - instead of trying to "gather more Intel," arrest them on the spot and/or kill them.  Better yet - not that I want war - invade Mexico and kill every last cartel member that exists, even if it runs the country out of body bags.

Can you just wait, I dont know, 6 months before starting a new war after losing the last one?

We keep losing wars due to politicians and generals not fighting to win.  You take the cuffs off the troops and they'll win.

Greetings!

That reminds me of the Mongol Empire's campaign against the Kwarazam Empire, the Baghdad Caliphate, and the other Muslim states. Genghis Khan had utterly annihilated dozens of Muslim cities--putting them to the torch, and slaughtering *millions* of Muslim people. Men, women, children--all were annihilated. Entire Muslim armies--once so proud and arrogant--had been slaughtered easily, like sheep. Hundreds of thousands of dead Muslim soldiers were stacked up in piles, and fed to the clouds of black ravens. Hundreds of thousands of Muslim women had been shackled in chains, and marched off deep into Asia, to serve the Mongol Empire as slaves.

When advance elements of the Mongol armies approached proud, rich cities throughout Khorassan, Persia, and the Levant, their Muslim populations, their nobles, their aristocratic noble leaders, met the oncoming Mongol barbarians by getting on their knees, totally unarmed, and bowing low into the dirt, begging for mercy, and begging to serve their new Mongolian Masters.

No armed resistance. No heroic fighting, or shrill cries of defiance, and the triumph of Allah.

Just weeping, and wailing, and begging for the Mongols to show them mercy.

That is how wars are won decisively.

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It should be noted that towns and cities that surrendered to the Mongols did not usually suffer the Khan's wrath -- not uncommon, as the Romans had a similar policy where if you surrendered before things got out of hand, your city would survive (the Latin was 'murum aries attigit', 'when the ram touches the wall' -- at that point, no surrender would be accepted).




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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #121 on: November 13, 2021, 05:59:49 PM »

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #122 on: November 15, 2021, 12:28:25 AM »
Of course, the more entrenched and corrupted our system becomes, and the more they embrace Liberalism and cock-sucking Marxism, the more hellish and dystopian our entire society becomes. That's because Liberal Democrat Marxists are corrupt and evil, and they enjoy the mayhem and chaos. Our society becomes more violent and lawless, with gangs of thugs roaming everywhere, while the Liberals just laugh and giggle.
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Ok, Pat. So, when Ben Shapiro or Dan Bongino discuss the huge increases in crime--crime has gone up 30% over last year, murder rates have hugely increased, and they show the charts and quotes from the police departments and the FBI--all of that is just bullshit and sensationalism?

The quoted newspaper articles describing rioting, rapes, burnings, and mayhem from the east cost to the west coast, in Los Angeles, in Portland, Oregon, *every day* for months, the news showing 10, 20, 30 people murdered in just ONE WEEKEND in Chicago. These things actually happened, Pat. It isn't like I'm imagining them happening, right?
Yes, it is largely sensationalism using selective stats and language. There have *always* been hundreds of violent crimes every day in the U.S., given a population of over 300 million people. So it's always possible to fill the news 24/7 with new horrendous crimes. Given dozens of types of crimes, fifty states and hundreds of cities and different time ranges, there are many selective ways to say that things are getting worse. But that's not the bigger picture for the whole country over decades.

The stats that I have been showing are directly from the FBI. I would encourage you to try out the crime stat explorer yourself to look at trends.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

SHARK, any thoughts on this?

I think the big picture of crime rates and what is happening in the country is pretty important.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #123 on: November 15, 2021, 01:42:50 AM »
Of course, the more entrenched and corrupted our system becomes, and the more they embrace Liberalism and cock-sucking Marxism, the more hellish and dystopian our entire society becomes. That's because Liberal Democrat Marxists are corrupt and evil, and they enjoy the mayhem and chaos. Our society becomes more violent and lawless, with gangs of thugs roaming everywhere, while the Liberals just laugh and giggle.
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Ok, Pat. So, when Ben Shapiro or Dan Bongino discuss the huge increases in crime--crime has gone up 30% over last year, murder rates have hugely increased, and they show the charts and quotes from the police departments and the FBI--all of that is just bullshit and sensationalism?

The quoted newspaper articles describing rioting, rapes, burnings, and mayhem from the east cost to the west coast, in Los Angeles, in Portland, Oregon, *every day* for months, the news showing 10, 20, 30 people murdered in just ONE WEEKEND in Chicago. These things actually happened, Pat. It isn't like I'm imagining them happening, right?
Yes, it is largely sensationalism using selective stats and language. There have *always* been hundreds of violent crimes every day in the U.S., given a population of over 300 million people. So it's always possible to fill the news 24/7 with new horrendous crimes. Given dozens of types of crimes, fifty states and hundreds of cities and different time ranges, there are many selective ways to say that things are getting worse. But that's not the bigger picture for the whole country over decades.

The stats that I have been showing are directly from the FBI. I would encourage you to try out the crime stat explorer yourself to look at trends.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

SHARK, any thoughts on this?

I think the big picture of crime rates and what is happening in the country is pretty important.

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Well, I think it is an undeniable fact that crime has increased, especially violent crimes and murders.

Naturally, Leftists want to doctor up and massage the stats because they don't want to admit how much their cities are crime-filled shitholes. That kind of truth getting revealed doesn't do the Liberals any favours.

Just like we saw on national television, with fucking CNN, right in front of your face--behind them, buildings on fire, people being beaten and mayhem everywhere--but what did the CNN reporter say, as he looked right into the camera?

"It's been a largely peaceful protest!"

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #124 on: November 15, 2021, 07:00:46 AM »
Of course, the more entrenched and corrupted our system becomes, and the more they embrace Liberalism and cock-sucking Marxism, the more hellish and dystopian our entire society becomes. That's because Liberal Democrat Marxists are corrupt and evil, and they enjoy the mayhem and chaos. Our society becomes more violent and lawless, with gangs of thugs roaming everywhere, while the Liberals just laugh and giggle.
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Ok, Pat. So, when Ben Shapiro or Dan Bongino discuss the huge increases in crime--crime has gone up 30% over last year, murder rates have hugely increased, and they show the charts and quotes from the police departments and the FBI--all of that is just bullshit and sensationalism?

The quoted newspaper articles describing rioting, rapes, burnings, and mayhem from the east cost to the west coast, in Los Angeles, in Portland, Oregon, *every day* for months, the news showing 10, 20, 30 people murdered in just ONE WEEKEND in Chicago. These things actually happened, Pat. It isn't like I'm imagining them happening, right?
Yes, it is largely sensationalism using selective stats and language. There have *always* been hundreds of violent crimes every day in the U.S., given a population of over 300 million people. So it's always possible to fill the news 24/7 with new horrendous crimes. Given dozens of types of crimes, fifty states and hundreds of cities and different time ranges, there are many selective ways to say that things are getting worse. But that's not the bigger picture for the whole country over decades.

The stats that I have been showing are directly from the FBI. I would encourage you to try out the crime stat explorer yourself to look at trends.

https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

SHARK, any thoughts on this?

I think the big picture of crime rates and what is happening in the country is pretty important.

Greetings!

Well, I think it is an undeniable fact that crime has increased, especially violent crimes and murders.

Naturally, Leftists want to doctor up and massage the stats because they don't want to admit how much their cities are crime-filled shitholes. That kind of truth getting revealed doesn't do the Liberals any favours.

Just like we saw on national television, with fucking CNN, right in front of your face--behind them, buildings on fire, people being beaten and mayhem everywhere--but what did the CNN reporter say, as he looked right into the camera?

"It's been a largely peaceful protest!"

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Pretty much all of the commercial media are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the DNC.  Even more troubling is the complete lack of any intelligence amongst the vast majority of social media consumers.  There is an alleged screenshot of an interaction where someone stated that they thought that "mistrial with prejudice" meant that the judge was prejudiced against the prosecution.  This is disturbing for the fact that someone (which means many someones) doesn't understand basic English ( and was too lazy or stupid to look it up if they didn't understand it), no to mention that it illustrates just how easy it is to brainwash the masses using an oft-repeated narrative that on it's face is ridiculous and that collapses with a minimal amount of investigation.

I guarantee that all of the people who continue to claim racism, or illegally crossing state lines, or illegally possessing a gun have still not even bothered to look at the evidence and trial testimony.  Even the mere fact that they think the judge is supposed to let the prosecution engage in misconduct (and on purpose, at that) shows just how stupid the general public is.  We're going to see a bunch more riots - even if Rittenhouse is wrongfully convicted on a lesser.  What *needs* to happen is the guardsmen kill as many rioters as they possibly can, should rioting ensue.

Likewise, Hawke Newsome's threats of violence if the NYPD reinstates an anti-crime unit that CommieBlasio abolished need to be met with police riot cops beating, tasing, or shooting as many this as possible. 

Violent resistance to violence is the *only* thing that will stop these thugs.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #125 on: November 15, 2021, 11:38:23 AM »
Breaking: the firearm possession charge just got tossed.

I think we're going to see not guilty. I could be wrong, but I think the chances are good. If the gun charge is out, that pretty much kills 'well he shouldn't have been there armed'. It devolves down to 'was he defending himself' and that's probably going to be a firm yes.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2021, 11:41:13 AM »
Breaking: the firearm possession charge just got tossed.

I think we're going to see not guilty. I could be wrong, but I think the chances are good. If the gun charge is out, that pretty much kills 'well he shouldn't have been there armed'. It devolves down to 'was he defending himself' and that's probably going to be a firm yes.

We'll see.  The prosecution got the judge last Friday to allow a bunch of lesser included - throwing everything at him hoping something sticks.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2021, 01:53:55 PM »
So, when's GrossKreutz gonna get his gun charg.......oh wait....of course the state that allows Antifa to burn down their cities won't charge him for his illegally carried/owned weapon.
Because he's Antifa.

Pfft.


Remind me. Was he a convicted felon holding a firearm ON VIDEO, and admitting in court to having drawn it on someone, or an otherwise legal gun owner who "let his CHL lapse and forgot"?


Because I've heard both claims. The latter only recently. But either way, that's a Federal or State gun charge, depending on which.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #128 on: November 15, 2021, 01:58:04 PM »
SHARK, any thoughts on this?

I think the big picture of crime rates and what is happening in the country is pretty important.

Well, I think it is an undeniable fact that crime has increased, especially violent crimes and murders.

Naturally, Leftists want to doctor up and massage the stats because they don't want to admit how much their cities are crime-filled shitholes. That kind of truth getting revealed doesn't do the Liberals any favours.

Just like we saw on national television, with fucking CNN...

Pretty much all of the commercial media are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the DNC.  Even more troubling is the complete lack of any intelligence amongst the vast majority of social media consumers.

But SHARK, you yourself said that some of the things that convinced you was Ben Shapiro and Dan Bongino quoting police and FBI statistics. I'd agree to not trust video media. I linked directly to the police/FBI data, not to any media reports.

For example, here's a preliminary report on crime in 2017 uploaded by The Brennan Center for Justice.

https://www.scribd.com/document/358106110/Crime-in-2017-A-Preliminary-Analysis

This was explicitly endorsed by the Daily Wire here:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/good-news-violent-crime-projected-drop-2017-guess-hank-berrien

And if you read the report, you'll see exactly the same statistics that I showed earlier -- a massive drop in violent crime from 1990 to 2017. That covers the presidencies of all three of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. The report used police statistics collected by the FBI/DOJ - the same data source I linked earlier.

Are you saying that this report is complete bullshit? Or are you only doubting the numbers after 2017?

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #129 on: November 15, 2021, 02:00:12 PM »
So, when's GrossKreutz gonna get his gun charg.......oh wait....of course the state that allows Antifa to burn down their cities won't charge him for his illegally carried/owned weapon.
Because he's Antifa.

Pfft.


Remind me. Was he a convicted felon holding a firearm ON VIDEO, and admitting in court to having drawn it on someone, or an otherwise legal gun owner who "let his CHL lapse and forgot"?


Because I've heard both claims. The latter only recently. But either way, that's a Federal or State gun charge, depending on which.

Greetings!

Yeah, it is just mind boggling listening to fucking Liberals do all kinds of fucking mental and verbal gymnastics to condemn Kyle and defend total criminal scumbags.

Kyle was totally justified. He did society a favour by getting rid of some violent, scum trash. I think Kyle should get a public commendation and a nice reward. He did far more to defend and protect the local community than all of these mewling, cock-sucking Liberals have ever done.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #130 on: November 15, 2021, 02:03:35 PM »
SHARK, any thoughts on this?

I think the big picture of crime rates and what is happening in the country is pretty important.

Well, I think it is an undeniable fact that crime has increased, especially violent crimes and murders.

Naturally, Leftists want to doctor up and massage the stats because they don't want to admit how much their cities are crime-filled shitholes. That kind of truth getting revealed doesn't do the Liberals any favours.

Just like we saw on national television, with fucking CNN...

Pretty much all of the commercial media are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the DNC.  Even more troubling is the complete lack of any intelligence amongst the vast majority of social media consumers.

But SHARK, you yourself said that some of the things that convinced you was Ben Shapiro and Dan Bongino quoting police and FBI statistics. I'd agree to not trust video media. I linked directly to the police/FBI data, not to any media reports.

For example, here's a preliminary report on crime in 2017 uploaded by The Brennan Center for Justice.

https://www.scribd.com/document/358106110/Crime-in-2017-A-Preliminary-Analysis

This was explicitly endorsed by the Daily Wire here:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/good-news-violent-crime-projected-drop-2017-guess-hank-berrien

And if you read the report, you'll see exactly the same statistics that I showed earlier -- a massive drop in violent crime from 1990 to 2017. That covers the presidencies of all three of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. The report used police statistics collected by the FBI/DOJ - the same data source I linked earlier.

Are you saying that this report is complete bullshit? Or are you only doubting the numbers after 2017?

Greetings!

Yeah, Jhkim, crimes have increased over the recent years. CRIME has increased, dramatically over the last year, or two, or three.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #131 on: November 15, 2021, 02:14:32 PM »
So, when's GrossKreutz gonna get his gun charg.......oh wait....of course the state that allows Antifa to burn down their cities won't charge him for his illegally carried/owned weapon.
Because he's Antifa.

Pfft.


Remind me. Was he a convicted felon holding a firearm ON VIDEO, and admitting in court to having drawn it on someone, or an otherwise legal gun owner who "let his CHL lapse and forgot"?


Because I've heard both claims. The latter only recently. But either way, that's a Federal or State gun charge, depending on which.

Greetings!

Yeah, it is just mind boggling listening to fucking Liberals do all kinds of fucking mental and verbal gymnastics to condemn Kyle and defend total criminal scumbags.

Kyle was totally justified. He did society a favour by getting rid of some violent, scum trash. I think Kyle should get a public commendation and a nice reward. He did far more to defend and protect the local community than all of these mewling, cock-sucking Liberals have ever done.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
He should be charged. With littering. Remember, keeping the streets clean is everyone's responsibility!

In all seriousness though, watching the left twist itself sideways to try and defend the, uh, 'honor' of Rosenbaum and Huber is like watching some kind of fucked up ethical Mobius strip.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #132 on: November 15, 2021, 03:16:52 PM »
An accidental discharge in the courtroom would have been both horrifying and fitting for this dumbass.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #133 on: November 15, 2021, 03:55:59 PM »
An accidental negligent discharge in the courtroom would have been both horrifying and fitting for this dumbass.



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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #134 on: November 15, 2021, 03:57:18 PM »
The defense's closing seems to be going ok.  We'll see if the jury is full of morons or not.