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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #330 on: November 23, 2021, 02:08:05 PM »

At this point, I'd whole-heartedly support neighborhood militias standing a post.  It doesn't matter what skin color, religion, etc. - good people of every background are sick of this shit.  You could have a group consisting of a white truck driver, a black accountant, a hispanic pharmacist, an Indian gas station owner, and a Korean plumber patrolling with rifles and some asshole would call them racists for turning rioters attacking them into swiss cheese...
States could support that. Militias are traditionally under the authority of the states, but a couple of laws were passed in the wake of the Civil War and then in the first years of the 20th century that federalized recruitment and then financing. But you could make a strong argument those laws are constitutionally illegitimate, and push the power to raise militias back to the local level. The hitch, of course, is very few of the places that went up in flames in 2020 are politically aligned in that direction.

States don't need to support it - they just need to get out of the way.  Local is where it is.  You're always more vested in your neighbors than some asshole from halfway across the state.  Here in Jersey, those of us in the southern part of the state are closer in values to folks from WV, TN, upstate ME, northern CA, TX, etc. than we are to the leftists in the northern part of the state.  Lots of rural territory, lots of hunting, etc. here than in shitholes like Newark where they're all mixed together living like pigs where gun control laws are needed moreso than down here.
States provide a buffer. The Constitution doesn't allocate any powers to local governments, just to the federal government (very little power), the states, and the people.

New Jersey is a home rule state, so the state has already delegated a lot of that responsibility to municipal governments (and counties to some degree, but they're the red-headed stepchildren of government tiers, and only have a few quirky responsibilities). Other states are more centralized, some much more so. This is typically defined in their constitutions.

You forgot to mention the nuclear power plants. Everyone from the Pine Barrens or further south glows in the dark. :)

It would help if Jersey were a shall issue state.  I don't know any other state that is ridiculous about it.  First - I gotta apply to get an ID card before I can even consider buying a gun - which can take up to 6 months. Now, I then gotta buy a separate permit for each individual handgun?!?!  I then have to go and fill out the NJ background check (which takes up to 12 days rather than 20 mins like everywhere else in the country) - after I've already had two sets of background checks (one for the ID card, and a second one for the handgun permit).  At any point in the process, it can be stopped dead in it's tracks - even if the background checks come back clear - based on the whim of the local police chief or the Staties. Not only that, but you give up several constitutional protections to even apply to begin with. But hey, at least there is no limit on the number of antique cannons you can obtain once you have your ID card...

Greetings!

My friend, you are living under a Communist tyranny. All of those stupid bureaucratic hoops to ump through, all of the restrictions, all of it--is unconstitutional, and an expression of fucking evil tyranny.

If you were to go to a Constitutional State, like where I live, and have zero restrictions. No hoops. The sheriff or police have no authority to tell me what firearms I can or can't have. It doesn't take days, weeks, or months to get any firearm that you want. It takes precisely about 20 minutes. That's it.

And, the selection. Gun stores here are *EQUIPPED*.

My state has it in the state constitution that every man can have weapons, and anyone can open carry or conceal carry, as YOU choose, no special permits required. Just like our Constitution intended.

The true freedom is so pure here, you would laugh with joy after taking a trip to a gun store, and arming up with all the guns you want, all the magazines you want, and all the ammunition you want.

Fuck the Communist Tyrant states! ;D

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #331 on: November 23, 2021, 02:11:28 PM »

At this point, I'd whole-heartedly support neighborhood militias standing a post.  It doesn't matter what skin color, religion, etc. - good people of every background are sick of this shit.  You could have a group consisting of a white truck driver, a black accountant, a hispanic pharmacist, an Indian gas station owner, and a Korean plumber patrolling with rifles and some asshole would call them racists for turning rioters attacking them into swiss cheese...
States could support that. Militias are traditionally under the authority of the states, but a couple of laws were passed in the wake of the Civil War and then in the first years of the 20th century that federalized recruitment and then financing. But you could make a strong argument those laws are constitutionally illegitimate, and push the power to raise militias back to the local level. The hitch, of course, is very few of the places that went up in flames in 2020 are politically aligned in that direction.

States don't need to support it - they just need to get out of the way.  Local is where it is.  You're always more vested in your neighbors than some asshole from halfway across the state.  Here in Jersey, those of us in the southern part of the state are closer in values to folks from WV, TN, upstate ME, northern CA, TX, etc. than we are to the leftists in the northern part of the state.  Lots of rural territory, lots of hunting, etc. here than in shitholes like Newark where they're all mixed together living like pigs where gun control laws are needed moreso than down here.
States provide a buffer. The Constitution doesn't allocate any powers to local governments, just to the federal government (very little power), the states, and the people.

New Jersey is a home rule state, so the state has already delegated a lot of that responsibility to municipal governments (and counties to some degree, but they're the red-headed stepchildren of government tiers, and only have a few quirky responsibilities). Other states are more centralized, some much more so. This is typically defined in their constitutions.

You forgot to mention the nuclear power plants. Everyone from the Pine Barrens or further south glows in the dark. :)

It would help if Jersey were a shall issue state.  I don't know any other state that is ridiculous about it.  First - I gotta apply to get an ID card before I can even consider buying a gun - which can take up to 6 months. Now, I then gotta buy a separate permit for each individual handgun?!?!  I then have to go and fill out the NJ background check (which takes up to 12 days rather than 20 mins like everywhere else in the country) - after I've already had two sets of background checks (one for the ID card, and a second one for the handgun permit).  At any point in the process, it can be stopped dead in it's tracks - even if the background checks come back clear - based on the whim of the local police chief or the Staties. Not only that, but you give up several constitutional protections to even apply to begin with. But hey, at least there is no limit on the number of antique cannons you can obtain once you have your ID card...

Greetings!

My friend, you are living under a Communist tyranny. All of those stupid bureaucratic hoops to ump through, all of the restrictions, all of it--is unconstitutional, and an expression of fucking evil tyranny.

If you were to go to a Constitutional State, like where I live, and have zero restrictions. No hoops. The sheriff or police have no authority to tell me what firearms I can or can't have. It doesn't take days, weeks, or months to get any firearm that you want. It takes precisely about 20 minutes. That's it.

And, the selection. Gun stores here are *EQUIPPED*.

My state has it in the state constitution that every man can have weapons, and anyone can open carry or conceal carry, as YOU choose, no special permits required. Just like our Constitution intended.

The true freedom is so pure here, you would laugh with joy after taking a trip to a gun store, and arming up with all the guns you want, all the magazines you want, and all the ammunition you want.

Fuck the Communist Tyrant states! ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Oh, I know. When I was stationed in Idaho, I walked into a drugstore and came out rifle in hand.  Getting in Jersey isn't permanent - retirement is going to be in a more agreeable state that also has no state income tax (and that doesn't tax pensions).

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #332 on: November 23, 2021, 02:47:42 PM »

At this point, I'd whole-heartedly support neighborhood militias standing a post.  It doesn't matter what skin color, religion, etc. - good people of every background are sick of this shit.  You could have a group consisting of a white truck driver, a black accountant, a hispanic pharmacist, an Indian gas station owner, and a Korean plumber patrolling with rifles and some asshole would call them racists for turning rioters attacking them into swiss cheese...
States could support that. Militias are traditionally under the authority of the states, but a couple of laws were passed in the wake of the Civil War and then in the first years of the 20th century that federalized recruitment and then financing. But you could make a strong argument those laws are constitutionally illegitimate, and push the power to raise militias back to the local level. The hitch, of course, is very few of the places that went up in flames in 2020 are politically aligned in that direction.

States don't need to support it - they just need to get out of the way.  Local is where it is.  You're always more vested in your neighbors than some asshole from halfway across the state.  Here in Jersey, those of us in the southern part of the state are closer in values to folks from WV, TN, upstate ME, northern CA, TX, etc. than we are to the leftists in the northern part of the state.  Lots of rural territory, lots of hunting, etc. here than in shitholes like Newark where they're all mixed together living like pigs where gun control laws are needed moreso than down here.
States provide a buffer. The Constitution doesn't allocate any powers to local governments, just to the federal government (very little power), the states, and the people.

New Jersey is a home rule state, so the state has already delegated a lot of that responsibility to municipal governments (and counties to some degree, but they're the red-headed stepchildren of government tiers, and only have a few quirky responsibilities). Other states are more centralized, some much more so. This is typically defined in their constitutions.

You forgot to mention the nuclear power plants. Everyone from the Pine Barrens or further south glows in the dark. :)

It would help if Jersey were a shall issue state.  I don't know any other state that is ridiculous about it.  First - I gotta apply to get an ID card before I can even consider buying a gun - which can take up to 6 months. Now, I then gotta buy a separate permit for each individual handgun?!?!  I then have to go and fill out the NJ background check (which takes up to 12 days rather than 20 mins like everywhere else in the country) - after I've already had two sets of background checks (one for the ID card, and a second one for the handgun permit).  At any point in the process, it can be stopped dead in it's tracks - even if the background checks come back clear - based on the whim of the local police chief or the Staties. Not only that, but you give up several constitutional protections to even apply to begin with. But hey, at least there is no limit on the number of antique cannons you can obtain once you have your ID card...

Greetings!

My friend, you are living under a Communist tyranny. All of those stupid bureaucratic hoops to ump through, all of the restrictions, all of it--is unconstitutional, and an expression of fucking evil tyranny.

If you were to go to a Constitutional State, like where I live, and have zero restrictions. No hoops. The sheriff or police have no authority to tell me what firearms I can or can't have. It doesn't take days, weeks, or months to get any firearm that you want. It takes precisely about 20 minutes. That's it.

And, the selection. Gun stores here are *EQUIPPED*.

My state has it in the state constitution that every man can have weapons, and anyone can open carry or conceal carry, as YOU choose, no special permits required. Just like our Constitution intended.

The true freedom is so pure here, you would laugh with joy after taking a trip to a gun store, and arming up with all the guns you want, all the magazines you want, and all the ammunition you want.

Fuck the Communist Tyrant states! ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Oh, I know. When I was stationed in Idaho, I walked into a drugstore and came out rifle in hand.  Getting in Jersey isn't permanent - retirement is going to be in a more agreeable state that also has no state income tax (and that doesn't tax pensions).

Greetings!

3Catcircus, you were stationed in Idaho???? *Laughing* Fucking awesome, man! So, yeah, you do know how sweet the freedom is! ;D

I used to live in the People's Republic of California--a fucking Communist Tyrant state--and the first time I went to my local gun store here in Idaho, I was awestruck by the SELECTION. The Communist states really do want you to be helpless, unarmed slaves. Rows and rows of rifles, shotguns, pistols, in models and configurations all declared to be illegal in California. I bought an AR-15. I got the rifle all tricked out with all the goodies. Lots of sweet ammunition. I showed my state Identification, waited 20 minutes for the Federal Background Check to ensure I am not a convicted felon, filled out the simple paperwork, and it was done. I spent about four hours hanging out there though, looking over stuff, and chatting with the gun shop men. One of them, a US Army Ranger veteran, from two or three  tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, personally hooked my rifle up with all the goodies. He showed me his own rifle on his cell phone, where he had the exact same set-up! *Laughing* Sharp guy, outstanding gentleman and patriot.

BCM AR-15 Recce my friend. I have gotten so many exclamations from experts, veterans, and hunters and such that BCM is absolutely *top shelf* in weapons. Rugged, reliable, all made here in America. The weapons are made for warfare, and harsh, battlefield conditions. Primarily to protect you and your family in combat. "Sporting" activities are a distinct secondary priority. Good stuff!

Yeah, it's amazing how these Communist states seize power, and trample our Constitutional rights. They wipe their asses with our Constitution. Fuck them. They are all traitors to our Republic. They do just like the frog in the pot thing. They scheme, and whisper, and plot. Little by little, they seize more and more power, until you are trapped living in a Liberal Communist tyrant shithole.

This is why there is nothing to discuss with these evil fucking traitors. They are evil, disgusting scum. They want everyone to be godless, helpless slaves to the Communist Global super-state. There can be no negotiation, no compromise. There should never even be a whisper of tolerance for these filthy, degenerate animals. Look what they do to politics? Look what they do to the arts? Look what they do to the military? Look how they defund the police? Look how they like to coddle prisoners and criminals? Look how they wreck the economy? Look what the do to our education system? And never forget how they like to disarm us, and make us into helpless slaves!

I hope you are able to move to a better state soon, away from the Communist tyranny. The Liberal shitholes are only going to become more violent and more choked with shit as time goes on. And, remember what rats do when they are trapped together?

They scratch and bite each other, and kill each other in a frenzy. I think we are seeing plenty of that in the Liberal shitholes more and more.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #333 on: November 23, 2021, 03:37:19 PM »
I'm waiting to see how many fools who are celebrities or politicians are gonna get sued for defaming Rittenhouse *after* the verdict.

Probably not gonna happen for a while if at all. The guy just barely escaped prison. He's not gonna want to step in court for another year. But I hope he does because they deserve to know actions have consequences.
CNN and MSNBC are about to get hit hard. If I'm him I make them pay as much as possible.
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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #334 on: November 23, 2021, 10:18:17 PM »
I'm waiting to see how many fools who are celebrities or politicians are gonna get sued for defaming Rittenhouse *after* the verdict.

Probably not gonna happen for a while if at all. The guy just barely escaped prison. He's not gonna want to step in court for another year. But I hope he does because they deserve to know actions have consequences.
CNN and MSNBC are about to get hard. If Im him I make them pay as much as possible.

They defamed him in the worst way possible. Even with his acquittal, the trauma will undoubtably stay with him for life.
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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #335 on: November 23, 2021, 10:40:06 PM »
If Rachel Maddow has taught me anything, it is that Kyle is not going to get rich off of suing anyone.
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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #336 on: November 24, 2021, 01:25:44 AM »

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #337 on: November 24, 2021, 07:44:12 AM »
If Rachel Maddow has taught me anything, it is that Kyle is not going to get rich off of suing anyone.

Go talk to Nick Sandmann and his $250M...

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #338 on: November 24, 2021, 06:58:55 PM »
If Rachel Maddow has taught me anything, it is that Kyle is not going to get rich off of suing anyone.
Robert Barnes said the it's very difficult to sue for defamation once you've been indicted for a crime even though you were acquitted.
That's why O.J. Simpson never won a defamation case anyone for calling him a "murderer" despite being acquitted.
And it's damn difficult to sue anyways over someone calling you names like "racist" or "white supremacist".
He said Rittenhouse's mother has a much better case for defamations of her.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #339 on: November 24, 2021, 09:02:42 PM »
Has anyone else started watching the Hawkeye series on Disney+? Clint's son--shown in the first episode--bears an odd physical resemblance to Kyle, at least IMO.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #340 on: November 25, 2021, 09:05:24 AM »
If Rachel Maddow has taught me anything, it is that Kyle is not going to get rich off of suing anyone.
Robert Barnes said the it's very difficult to sue for defamation once you've been indicted for a crime even though you were acquitted.
That's why O.J. Simpson never won a defamation case anyone for calling him a "murderer" despite being acquitted.
And it's damn difficult to sue anyways over someone calling you names like "racist" or "white supremacist".
He said Rittenhouse's mother has a much better case for defamations of her.

I'm this case it might be easier.  Juries tend to despise public figures defaming private citizens...

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #341 on: November 25, 2021, 09:30:06 AM »
If Rachel Maddow has taught me anything, it is that Kyle is not going to get rich off of suing anyone.
Robert Barnes said the it's very difficult to sue for defamation once you've been indicted for a crime even though you were acquitted.
That's why O.J. Simpson never won a defamation case anyone for calling him a "murderer" despite being acquitted.
And it's damn difficult to sue anyways over someone calling you names like "racist" or "white supremacist".
He said Rittenhouse's mother has a much better case for defamations of her.
That might've been true a few years back. Now, not so much.

The fact that two of the media organs reached quiet settlements with Sandmann over his lawsuits says a lot.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #342 on: November 26, 2021, 11:24:50 AM »
I think justice was served correctly... Although, perhaps Ritterhouse should have been charged with a weapons offense, if he was not supposed to be carrying one (well, that's what I heard). But that depends on American law, so I don't know. But he got off on self-defense which was the right thing.

Full blame lies with that Rosenbaum fool. He started the whole thing. The other two, who got shot, probably didn't have the facts and 'thought' they were acting lawfully by defending the crowd. But as it turns out, Ritterhouse was only defending himself, from them.

From a 'personal protection' point of view, and as a self-defense instructor. I still maintain that you're always better off not going into a hostile environment, even if you are legally entitled to. Property can be replaced but you can't.

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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #343 on: November 26, 2021, 11:33:23 AM »
From a 'personal protection' point of view, and as a self-defense instructor. I still maintain that you're always better off not going into a hostile environment, even if you are legally entitled to. Property can be replaced but you can't.
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Re: So, how about that Rittenhouse trial?
« Reply #344 on: November 26, 2021, 11:39:00 AM »
From a 'personal protection' point of view, and as a self-defense instructor. I still maintain that you're always better off not going into a hostile environment, even if you are legally entitled to. Property can be replaced but you can't.
The police in Kenosha are firm believers in your principles.

I put my own safety far above somebody else's property... Mind you, I also believe in 'hard policing' for law breakers. And if you're out rioting while damaging property the Police should be in there fast and cracking skulls while making arrests. You've got a right to protest peacefully. Go beyond that, then FU!
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