SJWs have taken over D&D and S&W and Onyx/WW; who is left?

[S'mon]

EDIT-Also, a public display of affection is okay. People do it all the time. So what if a gay guy kisses his boyfriend or holds his hand at Disneyland? It's not like they're having sex in front of everybody.

Well the problem is that they actually do do that. They do stuff straights would get arrested for (at least in Britain; I am not all that familiar with Disneyland Gay Day).

I think it's like Pundit's description of the Furry community, how the sexual perverts drove out the people who just liked anthropomorphic animals. A lack of gatekeeping and something akin to the 'Geek Social Fallacies' gave the worst elements moral-political dominance.

[Mordred Pendragon]

That's fine, but no need to make a Gay Day of it. You're gay/bi. Okay. Keep it to yourself. We don't need Hetero Day, either. Just leave it out. We don't need any parades celebrating any type of sexuality.

I've never been to a pride parade ever in my life. Also, LGBT events were once actually important and needed back in the days when the general public hated the LGBT community and there were violent witch-hunts against them, often at the hands of Neo-Puritan thugs who espoused ideology similar to what you are spouting out right now.

While I agree that pride events are somewhat antequated in this day and age, and I do not condone the simulated sex or fetishistic elements at certain events (such as the big pride rallies in California), complaining about gays or bisexuals being open about who they are is sort of hateful and Puritanical.

Don't be a douchebag fundamentalist, please. And I agree that the large pride rallies in places like San Francisco and Portland should cut out that gross sex shit and keep it out of public view. It gives the LGBT community a bad name, and while it may have had a place at one point (I'm not exactly sure when), it's not necessary anymore.

[fearsomepirate]

Well I think games like MYFAROG or Blue Rose probably have their politics boiled in (I haven't read either & don't intend to, but that's certainly the impression I get).

Right, and how many people play those? See, the thing is SJW companies inevitably get burned because most people don't want to be preached at all the time. The kind of personality that thrills to seeing everything around him suffused with correct doctrine and virtuous morality plays is and always has been marginal. It's why your average Catholic doesn't even go to Mass every Sunday, let alone takes a vow of celibacy and enters a cloister.

It's analogous to how much ink has been spilled on how Tolkien's Catholicism influenced his Lord of the Rings trilogy, yet if the books had contained some ham-fisted message about THIS IS WHY PROTESTANTS ARE WRONG AND DUMB, I doubt they'd have the enduring appeal they do.

[Llew ap Hywel]

I've seen behaviour at the Cardiff Pride I rolled my eyes at...I've seen the same on a night out from straight and gay couples but whatever, as long as nobody is getting hurt you can make as much of a tit out of yourself as you want.

If you let it bother you or you need to make an issue out of it then you need to ask yourself why it does.

As for pride days,  no different from national days just people celebrating their identities. Just don't attend if it bothers you.

[Llew ap Hywel]

How the hell did we get from "SJWs are ruining my ability to pretend to be an elf because women made the art" to "stop gay pride day at Disneyland!  Think of the children!"

I feel like I'm witnessing the stream of consciousness of a troll, and I can't stop looking....

Lol this. It's oddly fascinating to stare ar 1989's posts and wonder if he's on a wind up or just really really odd

[Mordred Pendragon]

I've seen behaviour at the Cardiff Pride I rolled my eyes at...I've seen the same on a night out from straight and gay couples but whatever, as long as nobody is getting hurt you can make as much of a tit out of yourself as you want.

If you let it bother you or you need to make an issue out of it then you need to ask yourself why it does.

As for pride days,  no different from national days just people celebrating their identities. Just don't attend if it bothers you.

This guy gets it.

[S'mon]

I've never been to a pride parade ever in my life. Also, LGBT events were once actually important and needed back in the days when the general public hated the LGBT community and there were violent witch-hunts against them, often at the hands of Neo-Puritan thugs who espoused ideology similar to what you are spouting out right now.

While I agree that pride events are somewhat antequated in this day and age, and I do not condone the simulated sex or fetishistic elements at certain events (such as the big pride rallies in California), complaining about gays or bisexuals being open about who they are is sort of hateful and Puritanical.

Don't be a douchebag fundamentalist, please. And I agree that the large pride rallies in places like San Francisco and Portland should cut out that gross sex shit and keep it out of public view. It gives the LGBT community a bad name, and while it may have had a place at one point (I'm not exactly sure when), it's not necessary anymore.

This seems like an entirely reasonable position (for a Lefty). Sir, I applaud you.

[Llew ap Hywel]

This guy gets it.

Nah I'm just too old to get riled up about stuff

[Mordred Pendragon]

This seems like an entirely reasonable position. Sir, I applaud you.

I try my best to be reasonable when I can.

So, do you think 1989 is a troll or just some far-right giant douche?

[ArrozConLeche]

While I agree that pride events are somewhat antequated in this day and age, and I do not condone the simulated sex or fetishistic elements at certain events (such as the big pride rallies in California), complaining about gays or bisexuals being open about who they are is sort of hateful and Puritanical.

I don't know if I'd consider them antiquated at all. Same sex couples are still fighting for the right to get married, for example.

[S'mon]

I try my best to be reasonable when I can.

So, do you think 1989 is a troll or just some far-right giant douche?

I sympathise with his position while not sharing it. I have engaged with plenty of *actual* far-right giant douches online ("Your name is Simon? Clearly you are Hasbara Jew Propagandist Cuck for Israel!" "You say you know high IQ blacks? Lying Marxist Jew-scum!"). 1989 definitely has not said anything to reach that level. If he had done so he'd have been banned under the site's Stormfront policy, so the point is moot.

[Mordred Pendragon]

I don't know if I'd consider them antiquated at all. Same sex couples are still fighting for the right to get married, for example.

True. But if we're talking in terms of acceptance from the general public, we've come a long, long way.

[Mordred Pendragon]

I sympathise with his position while not sharing it. I have engaged with plenty of *actual* far-right giant douches online ("Your name is Simon? Clearly you are Hasbara Jew Propagandist Cuck for Israel!" "You say you know high IQ blacks? Lying Marxist Jew-scum!"). 1989 definitely has not said anything to reach that level. If he had done so he'd have been banned under the site's Stormfront policy, so the point is moot.

Fair point. 1989 is clearly a homophobe though, and you know what they say about homophobes....

But seriously, most people who are as homophobic as 1989 is are usually secretly gay themselves and feel very insecure about themselves.

1989, it's okay if you're gay. Just be happy with who you are and stop wallowing in denial and self-hatred. It's not healthy for you psychologically.

[Bedrockbrendan]

Moving this one to the RPGPundit subforum.

[jeff37923]

True. But if we're talking in terms of acceptance from the general public, we've come a long, long way.

Yes, but we still have a long way to go. GBLT acceptance is making good headway, I agree.