RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[oggsmash]

JFTR,  I get that the woke left is annoying, irritating, shrill, intolerant, ad infinitum.  A lot of the sane progressive left it getting tired of them. Just watch Bill Maher to see.

But you know what? The radical right is a hell of a lot worse. The woke left isn't encouraging violence and murder against even members of their own party that aren't ideologically pure.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/20/2105187/-Republican-candidate-sells-RINO-hunting-license-promoting-shooting-non-MAGA-politician

You know,  the nazi party had a blood purge to clean out those not sufficiently dedicated to the party. It was called 'the night of the long knivess'. The ad above looks like the trump right is setting up their people for their own purge.

  When I see "radical" "right wing" people burning a city, I might believe they exist.  Till then fuck yourself.

Since the capitol was burned in 1814 they remade it to be much more difficult to set on fire anymore. But Jan 6 was plenty enough to demonstrate the same kind of violence. Let's not get it twisted. Radicals destroy property sometimes, regardless of partisanship.

  keep pretending those were the same.  If you get an actual equal right ring parallel  to Burning looting and murdering you might have a heart attack.    You are literally comparing murder to trespass and destruction of property as being equal.

Dude they murdered a capitol police officer and injured over 100 others including brain injuries. They looted. They destroyed. Yes, they are fucking equal and you don't see it because you won't look. You are acting like it's some Schrödinger's cat where if you don't look at the footage from that day then it somehow didn't happen?

  You either did not bother looking into this, or you are simply lying.  They did NOT murder a capitol police officer.  LOL at brain injuries.  I looked at the footage...it looked mostly peaceful and COMPLETELY peaceful compared to actual murder, burning and looting.

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  But I tell you what, lets keep the trans kids stuff and constant pressure on with CRT and fortifying elections, and there might just end up being some "right wing radical" violence to pop out.  I prefer it does not, but if you keep trying to conjure that boogie man, sooner or later you might get him.

[jhkim]

Since the capitol was burned in 1814 they remade it to be much more difficult to set on fire anymore. But Jan 6 was plenty enough to demonstrate the same kind of violence. Let's not get it twisted. Radicals destroy property sometimes, regardless of partisanship.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you conflate BLM/antifa rioters who literally burnt buildings to the ground, stole millions of dollars of private property (for which the rightful others of those buildings and property probably won't be able to be made whole by their insurance companies) and beat and killed people - with protestors who were let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one.  The worst that they did was some minor vandalizing, stole an overpriced lectern and laptop, and farted on Pelosi's chair.

The Jan 6 rioters didn't kill anyone - but there were 140 officers were injured in the riot, some quite seriously including concussions and losing the tip of a finger. One officer had two cracked ribs, two shattered spinal discs. Others were beaten with clubs and poles, and hit with stun guns and mace. There is video of many of the assaults. cf.

https://youtu.be/QVZvp-Dv0gg?t=78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGthdTzedk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwTzm5CCNw

When comparing violence overall between left-wing and right-wing, it's tricky to compare apples and apples. In general, left-wing have more violent mass protests/riots. On the other hand, right-wing have had more violent mass shootings and other attacks. The George Floyd protests are associated with from 12 to 19 or more deaths, which is combining single incidents among dozens of cities across months of protests. On the other hand, the 2019 El Paso shooting claimed 23 lives in a single incident, and there have been other right-wing mass shootings such as church, synagogue, and temple shootings and arson.

The tendency is to dismiss that violence on one's own side is lone nutcases, but violence on the other side shows their true colors - but that tends to show clear bias.

[Shasarak]

Remember that the FBI is still hunting for who ever planted the bombs outside the Democratic and Republican party headquarters during the Jan 6 protests.

One day they will find them.

Until then we have the RPGnet to entertain us.

[Shasarak]

Since the capitol was burned in 1814 they remade it to be much more difficult to set on fire anymore. But Jan 6 was plenty enough to demonstrate the same kind of violence. Let's not get it twisted. Radicals destroy property sometimes, regardless of partisanship.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you conflate BLM/antifa rioters who literally burnt buildings to the ground, stole millions of dollars of private property (for which the rightful others of those buildings and property probably won't be able to be made whole by their insurance companies) and beat and killed people - with protestors who were let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one.  The worst that they did was some minor vandalizing, stole an overpriced lectern and laptop, and farted on Pelosi's chair.

The Jan 6 rioters didn't kill anyone - but there were 140 officers were injured in the riot, some quite seriously including concussions and losing the tip of a finger. One officer had two cracked ribs, two shattered spinal discs. Others were beaten with clubs and poles, and hit with stun guns and mace. There is video of many of the assaults. cf.

https://youtu.be/QVZvp-Dv0gg?t=78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGthdTzedk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwTzm5CCNw

When comparing violence overall between left-wing and right-wing, it's tricky to compare apples and apples. In general, left-wing have more violent mass protests/riots. On the other hand, right-wing have had more violent mass shootings and other attacks. The George Floyd protests are associated with from 12 to 19 or more deaths, which is combining single incidents among dozens of cities across months of protests. On the other hand, the 2019 El Paso shooting claimed 23 lives in a single incident, and there have been other right-wing mass shootings such as church, synagogue, and temple shootings and arson.

The tendency is to dismiss that violence on one's own side is lone nutcases, but violence on the other side shows their true colors - but that tends to show clear bias.

Meanwhile in the far-right hell hole of Chicago, 61 people shot and 10 killed over the holiday weekend all because the NRA stops the government from implementing any kind of gun control.


https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootings-violence-this-weekend-juneteenth-2022/11984629/

[oggsmash]

Since the capitol was burned in 1814 they remade it to be much more difficult to set on fire anymore. But Jan 6 was plenty enough to demonstrate the same kind of violence. Let's not get it twisted. Radicals destroy property sometimes, regardless of partisanship.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you conflate BLM/antifa rioters who literally burnt buildings to the ground, stole millions of dollars of private property (for which the rightful others of those buildings and property probably won't be able to be made whole by their insurance companies) and beat and killed people - with protestors who were let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one.  The worst that they did was some minor vandalizing, stole an overpriced lectern and laptop, and farted on Pelosi's chair.

The Jan 6 rioters didn't kill anyone - but there were 140 officers were injured in the riot, some quite seriously including concussions and losing the tip of a finger. One officer had two cracked ribs, two shattered spinal discs. Others were beaten with clubs and poles, and hit with stun guns and mace. There is video of many of the assaults. cf.

https://youtu.be/QVZvp-Dv0gg?t=78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGthdTzedk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwTzm5CCNw

When comparing violence overall between left-wing and right-wing, it's tricky to compare apples and apples. In general, left-wing have more violent mass protests/riots. On the other hand, right-wing have had more violent mass shootings and other attacks. The George Floyd protests are associated with from 12 to 19 or more deaths, which is combining single incidents among dozens of cities across months of protests. On the other hand, the 2019 El Paso shooting claimed 23 lives in a single incident, and there have been other right-wing mass shootings such as church, synagogue, and temple shootings and arson.

The tendency is to dismiss that violence on one's own side is lone nutcases, but violence on the other side shows their true colors - but that tends to show clear bias.

        No one but you is comparing violence overall.  You do have a habit of bringing up things no one is discussing.  I never said lefties were anywhere near as GOOD at violence, I am saying the reactions to an incident with little destruction and violence is blown WAY out of proportion to what went across the nation all summer.  If you want to get into the weeds as to whether "my side" is better at fucking people up than "your side", well that is a different discussion.  I agree with you, I am a lot better at fucking people up than you are.

[Mistwell]

1) USCP Officer Brian Sicknick was murdered.

The Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia disagrees with your conspiracy theory.

I literally just quoted him. Not my theory.

[Mistwell]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

[oggsmash]

1) USCP Officer Brian Sicknick was murdered.

The Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia disagrees with your conspiracy theory.

I literally just quoted him. Not my theory.

  Are you sure about that?  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/

[oggsmash]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone. 

[3catcircus]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone.

That video looks like an average day in NY, Chicago, Philly, or Detroit.

It, of course, is a lot harder to impose your will as a cop when the Dems turned down providing additional cops or national guard personnel that the President requested they take...

I find it ludicrous that lefties see some slap fighting and think it equal to leftist white thugs burning down buildings in the name of black people when those buildings they burnt down were *owned* by black people.  How's they can compare cops being injured in slap fights to cops in Portland and Seattle and NY being shot or almost being set on fire by leftist white antifa turds.

Then again, leftists recently decided to rename monkeypox to avoid offending Africans when the only ones equating Africans with monkeys are the leftists...  those noble saviors of savage and animalistic blacks and slow-witted conservatives that they see themselves as.

[Mistwell]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone.

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

[oggsmash]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone.

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

    Do not say "guys" as I did not describe it that way.  I just said you are full of shit about the murder angle (and the M.E. and apparently the DA agree with me ...https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/)  and you are.    You want to compare trespass and vandalism with murder and arson. 

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  As for DC riots.....you miss the Trump inauguration?  The press did. 

[Pat]

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

Except that's exactly what happened.

There were some unruly but mostly peaceful protesters on one side of the building, who pushed some cops but generally behaved far better than most leftist rioters, because they didn't kill anyone, burn anything down, destroy any businesses, steal any TVs, or even come into the presence of a single lawmaker (except for AOC, who I believe has reported that they killed her at least a dozen times).

But on the other side of the building, the cops opened the barriers, waved people in, and are on video saying things like "I disagree with you, but I respect your right to protest". The protesters were invited in, wandered around, and stayed within the barriers.

And guess which group has been raided by the FBI, held in solitary confinement for over a year with trial, and forced into plea deals with threats of federal crimes with potential prison sentences of more than 20 years? Correct! Members of both groups! They're exactly the same!