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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Trond

Quote from: wmarshal on May 14, 2022, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Bunch on May 14, 2022, 07:22:30 PM
Two mods have been banned over on TBP in the last week or so.  That's different.
I don't know if that is actual progress. The mod I saw catching a ban looked like a case of the Woke vice getting turned tighter and tighter to where they're targeting their own. Which is to be expected.

The latest ban I saw was for KaijuGooGoo making the observation that generally speaking people are less racist than they were 65 years ago. For noting that progress had been made since 1957, not at all arguing that racism doesn't exist, Q99 handed out a 2-day ban.

That's what Steven Pinker calls "progressophobia".

wmarshal

Quote from: Trond on May 15, 2022, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on May 14, 2022, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Bunch on May 14, 2022, 07:22:30 PM
Two mods have been banned over on TBP in the last week or so.  That's different.
I don't know if that is actual progress. The mod I saw catching a ban looked like a case of the Woke vice getting turned tighter and tighter to where they're targeting their own. Which is to be expected.

The latest ban I saw was for KaijuGooGoo making the observation that generally speaking people are less racist than they were 65 years ago. For noting that progress had been made since 1957, not at all arguing that racism doesn't exist, Q99 handed out a 2-day ban.

That's what Steven Pinker calls "progressophobia".
That's not a bad term for it. Ironic that people who call themselves progressive have to deny that progress has been made at all on any topic they care about. The denial of any progress being made eventually can lead one to think progress is impossible, and if progress is impossible I guess one might as well eventually become some kind of conservative.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Bunch on May 15, 2022, 08:46:44 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 15, 2022, 08:31:24 AM
Quote from: Bunch on May 14, 2022, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 14, 2022, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: Bunch on May 14, 2022, 07:22:30 PM
Two mods have been banned over on TBP in the last week or so.  That's different.
Who's the other? Arethusa ate a one day, which really isn't much of a ban to be honest.
KaijuGooGoo

I'm more curious what happened backstage.  Years ago when asked do mods ban just on their own judgement I recall the answer being there were always multiple people discussing it backstage before a ban was handed down.  A one off mod ban I can see as just everyone has an off day.  Two in short order seems like some folks aren't getting along as well as they may have in the past.   Could still just be coincidence but I would think mod bans get a little more discussion and notice by other mods reminding everyone to be on best behavior.
Maybe they don't.
Not a mod. Validated user, but not a mod.

My mistake.  Although I swear that user was a mod at one point.

EDIT- Nope. I'm wrong. Not ever a  mod and history of infractions at least for the last couple years
No harm done. You probably saw him popping up in infractions and got him mixed up.


Ghostmaker


Willmark

Reported a year prior even. Takes away from punishing wrong think?

Abraxus

If they put as much effort in making sure to run Orwellian, regressive and repressive website, as they do their tech issues they would have none or very little.

Can't have anything pulling them away from making sure that no one posts anything remotely positive about the police.

If I am not mistaken someone told pundits about a tech issue on the site and it was fixed within hours.

Ghostmaker

You saw it here, folks: TBP's official stance on police is 'ACAB'.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/acab-did-i-miss-a-ruling.897690/

Now, particularly in light of the Uvalde police department's response to the school shooting there, I can understand a certain amount of vitriol.

But once again, TBP mods are ALL about the fee-fees, not the nuance or the facts.

Ratman_tf

What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

How about the Rayshard Brooks Killing?

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993842478/fired-atlanta-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks-reinstated-due-to-personnel-rules
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

How about the Rayshard Brooks Killing?

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993842478/fired-atlanta-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks-reinstated-due-to-personnel-rules
Was Rayshard Brooks an active shooter (or, as Ratman_tf specified, a school shooter)? Looking over your article, it sure seems that he was not.

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

How about the Rayshard Brooks Killing?

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993842478/fired-atlanta-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks-reinstated-due-to-personnel-rules
Was Rayshard Brooks an active shooter (or, as Ratman_tf specified, a school shooter)? Looking over your article, it sure seems that he was not.

I guess it depends if you consider a Taser gun to be a gun.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

oggsmash

Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

How about the Rayshard Brooks Killing?

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993842478/fired-atlanta-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks-reinstated-due-to-personnel-rules
Was Rayshard Brooks an active shooter (or, as Ratman_tf specified, a school shooter)? Looking over your article, it sure seems that he was not.

I guess it depends if you consider a Taser gun to be a gun.

  Well, considering Atlanta had just suspended and fired cops a few weeks before for tasing people and called a taser a deadly weapon....it does cause a bit of mental gymnastics.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on May 31, 2022, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 31, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
What member of the Uvalde police department wants to risk life in jail for shooting a school shooter? After George Floyd I'm surprised any cops are still willing to stay on the force at all.
Do you have an example of a cop facing charges for firing on an active shooter, or is this just more of your usual absurdium?

How about the Rayshard Brooks Killing?

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/05/993842478/fired-atlanta-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks-reinstated-due-to-personnel-rules
Was Rayshard Brooks an active shooter (or, as Ratman_tf specified, a school shooter)? Looking over your article, it sure seems that he was not.

I guess it depends if you consider a Taser gun to be a gun.
If I'm not mistaken, Georgia law specifically classifies Taser use as 'deadly force'.

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 31, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Looking over your article, it sure seems that he was not.

Looking over my article it says:

Quote
Footage captured by police body cameras, Wendy's security cameras and bystanders showed Brooks resisted arrest but was running away from the officers when he was shot. In the scuffle, he grabbed an officer's Taser, then ran away. Rolfe chased him with his own Taser drawn. Still running, Brooks tried to fire the Taser back toward Rolfe. Rolfe then drew his handgun and fired three shots, two of them striking Brooks.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus