RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Horace]

I can't decide if TBP has a complete absence of a sense of humor, or if this guy is a deliberate target of the mods that they'll interpret this guy's post in the worst way possible. If the latter, the mods there are just some sick sadists for dragging this out, and not just going to a rule 0 ban.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/numanoid-receives-a-🚫-thirty-day-ban.887310/

"Making Mutants and Masterminds 3E more gritty?" -- "Coat the book in glue and dip it in course sand."

Heh. That's pretty funny. But leftists are not known for their sense of humor. Just the opposite, in fact.

[Wntrlnd]

I can't even tell what he ate the thirty day ban for. The content goes to his profile.

He caught a threadban and warning for a joke he made Monday ('how to make Mutants and Masterminds 3E more gritty? Dip it in glue and coat it in coarse sand!').

Not constructive, but still funny.

He should probably start making his exit plan.

from what I can tell, he made a joke 2 years ago about orcs turning human into glue in a thread that was about what makes human societies "stick together", social glue if you will. The ban that time was lenient (3 days and a threadban) because he was making a tasteless joke in an otherwise serious thread. (threadcrapping) He was also warned that he should stop threadcrapping. or else.

So now more recently he joked about glue -again. The mod after a warning then searched his history and found the 2 year old warning. So they upped it to 1 month

[Shasarak]

It's all very well to joke but do you know how exhausting it is to have to constantly search posters history to find excuses to ban them?

Won't someone think of the poor Mods?

[Ghostmaker]

It's all very well to joke but do you know how exhausting it is to have to constantly search posters history to find excuses to ban them?

Won't someone think of the poor Mods?

I am thinking of them. I think they should quit.

[Godfather Punk]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

[Wntrlnd]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

Yeah, when posting on RPG.net feels like having a sword of Damocles hanging over you, it's time to go.

When you rule by creating fear, thats the sign of a bad leadership.

[FelixGamingX1]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

Yeah, when posting on RPG.net feels like having a sword of Damocles hanging over you, it's time to go.

When you rule by creating fear, thats the sign of a bad leadership.

Best thing to do is to avoid gross zealotry by not participating in toxic communities. Geek and Pub are two others I personally recommend avoiding. They follow the same dictatorship, possibly some of the same losers who are slowly dissolving the hobby into something evil and twisted.

[Joey2k]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

Yeah, when posting on RPG.net feels like having a sword of Damocles hanging over you, it's time to go.

When you rule by creating fear, thats the sign of a bad leadership.

Best thing to do is to avoid gross zealotry by not participating in toxic communities. Geek and Pub are two others I personally recommend avoiding. They follow the same dictatorship, possibly some of the same losers who are slowly dissolving the hobby into something evil and twisted.

Are you referring to rpgpub? I'm not over there all that often, but from what I've seen it's fairly innocuous. What have you witnessed over there?

[FelixGamingX1]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

Yeah, when posting on RPG.net feels like having a sword of Damocles hanging over you, it's time to go.

When you rule by creating fear, thats the sign of a bad leadership.

Best thing to do is to avoid gross zealotry by not participating in toxic communities. Geek and Pub are two others I personally recommend avoiding. They follow the same dictatorship, possibly some of the same losers who are slowly dissolving the hobby into something evil and twisted.

Are you referring to rpgpub? I'm not over there all that often, but from what I've seen it's fairly innocuous. What have you witnessed over there?

Wokeness, loserness, and typical hive mentality you'll find on Reddit. Same perps from geek in some occasions. If you defy their logic then you get the ban hammer. That dude from zweihander is there too, giving "advice" to beginners, forgot his name.

[Bunch]

Some random though, overspill from the Price thread... If you need to ban everybody who's been a member for over 15 years because they're "not a good fit for the forum", maybe it's just that you're just not a good fit to moderate that forum.

Yeah, when posting on RPG.net feels like having a sword of Damocles hanging over you, it's time to go.

When you rule by creating fear, thats the sign of a bad leadership.

Best thing to do is to avoid gross zealotry by not participating in toxic communities. Geek and Pub are two others I personally recommend avoiding. They follow the same dictatorship, possibly some of the same losers who are slowly dissolving the hobby into something evil and twisted.

Are you referring to rpgpub? I'm not over there all that often, but from what I've seen it's fairly innocuous. What have you witnessed over there?

Wokeness, loserness, and typical hive mentality you'll find on Reddit. Same perps from geek in some occasions. If you defy their logic then you get the ban hammer. That dude from zweihander is there too, giving "advice" to beginners, forgot his name.

I think only four people have been banned from RPGPub and two of them are ZakS and Zwiehander (Daniel Fox)

[Reckall]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.

Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".

"Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.

"The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it." --Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

In any case, though, you're not entirely wrong. But I daresay a TBP mod would argue that the 'right' of the posters to not be 'triggered' by unpleasant discussion to override any quibbling about things like 'due process'. And that the 'rights' of criminals are more meaningful than that of a policeman defending himself (referencing their stance on police shootings).

You might consider reading Kevin Baker's commentary on this: https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/05/before-i-go-to-bed-who-am-i-fooling.html

He makes a good point: ultimately, rights are what a society agrees on and believes in.

Let me make a wild guess: this guy never saw "Twelve Angry Men".

[Ghostmaker]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.

Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".

"Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.

"The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it." --Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

In any case, though, you're not entirely wrong. But I daresay a TBP mod would argue that the 'right' of the posters to not be 'triggered' by unpleasant discussion to override any quibbling about things like 'due process'. And that the 'rights' of criminals are more meaningful than that of a policeman defending himself (referencing their stance on police shootings).

You might consider reading Kevin Baker's commentary on this: https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/05/before-i-go-to-bed-who-am-i-fooling.html

He makes a good point: ultimately, rights are what a society agrees on and believes in.

Let me make a wild guess: this guy never saw "Twelve Angry Men".

Why don't you ask him? His blog's now at smallestminority.org. He has a comments section. He likes to engage.

[Reckall]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.

Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".

"Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.

"The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it." --Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

In any case, though, you're not entirely wrong. But I daresay a TBP mod would argue that the 'right' of the posters to not be 'triggered' by unpleasant discussion to override any quibbling about things like 'due process'. And that the 'rights' of criminals are more meaningful than that of a policeman defending himself (referencing their stance on police shootings).

You might consider reading Kevin Baker's commentary on this: https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/05/before-i-go-to-bed-who-am-i-fooling.html

He makes a good point: ultimately, rights are what a society agrees on and believes in.

Let me make a wild guess: this guy never saw "Twelve Angry Men".

Why don't you ask him? His blog's now at smallestminority.org. He has a comments section. He likes to engage.

With "engaging" meaning "a podium and a megaphone"? It is a serious question.

[Ghostmaker]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.

Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".

"Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.

"The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it." --Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

In any case, though, you're not entirely wrong. But I daresay a TBP mod would argue that the 'right' of the posters to not be 'triggered' by unpleasant discussion to override any quibbling about things like 'due process'. And that the 'rights' of criminals are more meaningful than that of a policeman defending himself (referencing their stance on police shootings).

You might consider reading Kevin Baker's commentary on this: https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/05/before-i-go-to-bed-who-am-i-fooling.html

He makes a good point: ultimately, rights are what a society agrees on and believes in.

Let me make a wild guess: this guy never saw "Twelve Angry Men".

Why don't you ask him? His blog's now at smallestminority.org. He has a comments section. He likes to engage.

With "engaging" meaning "a podium and a megaphone"? It is a serious question.

And it was a serious response. I have no idea if he saw "Twelve Angry Men". I have no idea what the hell your point is, other than you don't like the angle he (and I) were making.

[Ghostmaker]

Getting back on track here.

Dawgstar denies reality, warns someone for having the nerve to point out issues with a new edition of D&D:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lotus-crane-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning.887401/

Really, Dawgstar. Stop pretending 4E wasn't a mess.

Q99 tosses a warning and threadban for... talking bad about another dev in the John Wick thread.
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/mae69-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban.887409/

The cynical part of me wonders who it was and if they have friends on TBP staff.