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Author Topic: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)  (Read 306908 times)

Reckall

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #255 on: September 24, 2021, 07:01:38 AM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/rokomocha-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-rule-zero-racism-apologism.887020/

Once again, TBP mods fail to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Honestly, the whole 'no fantasy racism allowed' eliminates an entire storytelling angle.

That was a very interesting post, and the poster got banned for surreal reasons. I hope that he comes over here, because it would be a pity to lose him.

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But then, leftists aren't very creative anyways so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I disagree: creativity is not tied to your political Worldview. Fanatics however, are creative only when it comes to justify their obsessions. On this I agree.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #256 on: September 24, 2021, 08:16:27 AM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #257 on: September 24, 2021, 08:23:35 AM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.
Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

That being said, remember that TBP mods are ALL about 'listen and believe'. Proof (or lack thereof) is irrelevant. It only becomes a serious issue when they get burned (Black Hat Matt, for example).

When they're not suffering massive attacks of no-shit idiocy, anyways. Case in point: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/talakeal-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban.887236/

I swear, it's like Dawgstar goes out of his way to creatively interpret posts in the worst possible way.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #258 on: September 24, 2021, 09:27:31 AM »
The arseholes at RPG.NET have gone completely insane.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #259 on: September 24, 2021, 09:56:40 AM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.
Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #260 on: September 24, 2021, 10:53:33 AM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/elvago-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban-derailing-in-an-a-game-thread.887160/

And remember, you don't ever get to defend yourself or others from allegations while on TBP. Otherwise you're just another shitlord.

IMHO, this is the most chilling one. "Innocent until proven guilty" (or "Presumption of innocence") is an international Human Right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As heavy as it seems, RPG.net is now posing themselves as human rights violators.
Eh, the UN's declaration isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Look at some of the members and tell me they EVER gave a damn about human rights.

Fine. This is just another way to say that RPG.net doesn't give a damn about Human Rights. This doesn't make Human Rights wrong or those who ignore them "Paladins of Justice".
“Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost.

"The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. Cast me into a dungeon, burn me at the stake, crown me king of kings, I can "pursue happiness" as long as my brain lives - but neither gods nor saints, wise men nor subtle drugs, can insure that I will catch it.” --Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

In any case, though, you're not entirely wrong. But I daresay a TBP mod would argue that the 'right' of the posters to not be 'triggered' by unpleasant discussion to override any quibbling about things like 'due process'. And that the 'rights' of criminals are more meaningful than that of a policeman defending himself (referencing their stance on police shootings).

You might consider reading Kevin Baker's commentary on this: https://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/05/before-i-go-to-bed-who-am-i-fooling.html

He makes a good point: ultimately, rights are what a society agrees on and believes in. TBP is a micro-society, yes, but it has decided that trembling snowflakes have the right to not be triggered by dispassionate discussions about unpleasant things like slavery, or that negative criticism of a topic is tantamount to 'threadcrapping' and should be stamped out. I'm sure the Taliban would be happy to lecture on the 'rights' of the menfolk in their society, as well. Maybe we should arrange a meeting between the two. And sell tickets to the pay per view.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #261 on: September 24, 2021, 01:28:53 PM »
Greetings!

Earlier this morning I read an article which discussed an interview with the Taliban's chief Imam and enforcer. The Taliban has announced that "Strict punishments and executions will return". The Imam said that no one will tell the Taliban what their laws can be. The Taliban will make their laws based on the Koran.

The UN and the United States both have complained and protested the Taliban's policy--and the Taliban has told them all to get fucked.

All the sniveling SJW's and Marxists would have such a good time living under the Taliban government.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #262 on: September 24, 2021, 01:43:08 PM »
Greetings!

Earlier this morning I read an article which discussed an interview with the Taliban's chief Imam and enforcer. The Taliban has announced that "Strict punishments and executions will return". The Imam said that no one will tell the Taliban what their laws can be. The Taliban will make their laws based on the Koran.

The UN and the United States both have complained and protested the Taliban's policy--and the Taliban has told them all to get fucked.

All the sniveling SJW's and Marxists would have such a good time living under the Taliban government.

Semper Fidelis,

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I can't decide if the protests are just pro forma or if they honest to God believe their puling will change the Taliban's minds.

If it's the former, I suppose I can at least accept it as realpolitik, the movement of a pawn or two in the chess game. It still looks silly.

If it's the latter, then the current regime is made up of phenomenal fucking morons.


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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #263 on: September 24, 2021, 03:32:21 PM »
  Thing with rights and freedom, they are not given.  They have to be taken.  If you are not willing to die for those things, you will not have them.  The Taliban was willing to die for what they wanted.  The queefs the USA trained were not, hell not even  willing to sweat for the most part.  This is a constant cycle for everything, everywhere, ever. 

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #264 on: September 24, 2021, 05:17:58 PM »
  Thing with rights and freedom, they are not given.  They have to be taken.  If you are not willing to die for those things, you will not have them.  The Taliban was willing to die for what they wanted.

This guy too. It didn't end well.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #265 on: September 25, 2021, 09:52:23 AM »
I can’t decide if TBP has a complete absence of a sense of humor, or if this guy is a deliberate target of the mods that they’ll interpret this guy’s post in the worst way possible. If the latter, the mods there are just some sick sadists for dragging this out, and not just going to a rule 0 ban.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/numanoid-receives-a-🚫-thirty-day-ban.887310/

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #266 on: September 25, 2021, 10:18:06 AM »
I can’t decide if TBP has a complete absence of a sense of humor, or if this guy is a deliberate target of the mods that they’ll interpret this guy’s post in the worst way possible. If the latter, the mods there are just some sick sadists for dragging this out, and not just going to a rule 0 ban.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/numanoid-receives-a-🚫-thirty-day-ban.887310/


for a comment made in 2019.. someone had to DIG for that

or maybe they just went to the posters history and saw he had made a similar joke. Still, to use something from 2 years ago is just petty.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #267 on: September 25, 2021, 11:37:41 AM »
I can't even tell what he ate the thirty day ban for. The content goes to his profile.

He caught a threadban and warning for a joke he made Monday ('how to make Mutants and Masterminds 3E more gritty? Dip it in glue and coat it in coarse sand!').

Not constructive, but still funny.

He should probably start making his exit plan.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #268 on: September 25, 2021, 11:54:18 AM »
It seems that when you are Woke, everything has to be 100% serious 100% of the time. If you don’t understand that something is a joke, then it must be some kind of subversion of your ideology. At least TBP doesn’t have the authority to kill comedians like the Taliban is doing now, but I can easily see some kind of Comedy Review Board coming along in the next 20 years. Similar to the old Comics Code Authority.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #269 on: September 25, 2021, 02:17:36 PM »
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/rokomocha-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-rule-zero-racism-apologism.887020/

Once again, TBP mods fail to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Honestly, the whole 'no fantasy racism allowed' eliminates an entire storytelling angle.
That was a very interesting post, and the poster got banned for surreal reasons. I hope that he comes over here, because it would be a pity to lose him.
It was such an insightful post that I saved it to my hard drive. It does a better job of explaining the mood and assumptions of an OSR setting than I can do myself. If I ever run something in Greyhawk, I might ask my players to read it so they know what to expect.