RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Cathode Ray]

Funny that Steve Jackson Games' web log today was promoting a thread on rpg net with rumors about GURPS.  Following their own descent, I guess they needed to boost each other's visibility.

[Grognard GM]

Funny that Steve Jackson Games' web log today was promoting a thread on rpg net with rumors about GURPS.  Following their own descent, I guess they needed to boost each other's visibility.

Like a pair of aged porn stars teaming up to try and boost sales, only with less class.

[Trond]

Funny that Steve Jackson Games' web log today was promoting a thread on rpg net with rumors about GURPS.  Following their own descent, I guess they needed to boost each other's visibility.

Descent in sales or descent into wokeness? I haven't been following what's going on but last I checked, they were yellow on our Guide to Woke Companies.

[David Johansen]

Funny that Steve Jackson Games' web log today was promoting a thread on rpg net with rumors about GURPS.  Following their own descent, I guess they needed to boost each other's visibility.

Do you mean the GURPS 5e thread.  SJG had a Daily Illuminator post last week (Monday maybe) saying the rumour was false.  Really after all the times I've agitated for better GURPS support I'm very convinced they never want to do GURPS 5th edition unless their other products like Munchkin crash entirely and GURPS sales spike, it's not happening.  In fact if Munchkin crashed and GURPS sales didn't spike they'd either try another game or close down.

[Armchair Gamer]

Descent in sales or descent into wokeness? I haven't been following what's going on but last I checked, they were yellow on our Guide to Woke Companies.

  They jumped to Red last summer when Steve Jackson came out as fervidly 'pro-choice' and decided to start fundraising for the Lilith Fund.

[Thor's Nads]

Do you mean the GURPS 5e thread.  SJG had a Daily Illuminator post last week (Monday maybe) saying the rumour was false.  Really after all the times I've agitated for better GURPS support I'm very convinced they never want to do GURPS 5th edition unless their other products like Munchkin crash entirely and GURPS sales spike, it's not happening.  In fact if Munchkin crashed and GURPS sales didn't spike they'd either try another game or close down.

There will be a 5th edition. It's almost done. They've been working on it for a while.

[Brad]

There will be a 5th edition. It's almost done. They've been working on it for a while.

Any more info on this? Morbid curiosity...I actually like GURPS 3rd (it's an excellent gritty fantasy game with just the Basic Set) but hated what they did with 4th. I sold off a giant stack of hardcovers a couple weeks ago, actually. So yeah, want to see what 5th will look like.

[Thor's Nads]

There will be a 5th edition. It's almost done. They've been working on it for a while.

Any more info on this? Morbid curiosity...I actually like GURPS 3rd (it's an excellent gritty fantasy game with just the Basic Set) but hated what they did with 4th. I sold off a giant stack of hardcovers a couple weeks ago, actually. So yeah, want to see what 5th will look like.

I don't have much more information. I know this comes across as some rando on the the internet making up rumors. But I've been working in the games industry since 2000 as a designer and know lots of folks at various companies. It was actually slipped to me by accident.

GURPS is a fine system, I played it a lot during the 90's because my gaming group hated 2nd edition D&D (looking back 2e isn't as bad as we thought it was). It needs to get the same treatment that 5th edition D&D got. Go back to its roots. Streamline all the bullshit. And make an easy to learn and aesthetically pleasing game. Make some real crowd pleasing campaign adventures for it  - which has always been GURPS weak spot.

edit: fixed minor typo

[JulesTheTaxi]

I'm wondering if there's mod drama going on in the OGL thread.

First someone called out Zeea for stirring up shit:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693054

Zeea kind of apologised (but had to get a couple of petty comments in first of course - honestly, they're like children):
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693708

Now the thread is locked:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693708

Officially because there's nothing new to talk about, but they've been rehashing the same tired points for ages now. It just seems interesting that shortly after a mod being called out the thread is shut down and nobody else can comment either way on the mod's behaviour...

[Armchair Gamer]

I'm wondering if there's mod drama going on in the OGL thread.

First someone called out Zeea for stirring up shit:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693054

Zeea kind of apologised (but had to get a couple of petty comments in first of course - honestly, they're like children):
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693708

Now the thread is locked:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dungeons-dragons-and-the-ogl-1-1-official-discussion-thread-part-2-holy-shit-srd-5-1-released-as-creative-commons-by-4-0.906691/post-24693708

Officially because there's nothing new to talk about, but they've been rehashing the same tired points for ages now. It just seems interesting that shortly after a mod being called out the thread is shut down and nobody else can comment either way on the mod's behaviour...

   And they follow up with a seven-day ban for criticizing Zeea "being unfair and inflammatory."
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/atlictoatl-infracted-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban.907555/#post-24694493

[JulesTheTaxi]

"Time and again you have been told to stop playing junior moderator and you never seem to listen. We're giving you a week off in the hopes that it might sink in this time. Rethink your posting style if you wish to remain on the board. Furthermore you are banned from this thread and future iterations, if the thread is ever reopened."

Don't answer back to teacher or you'll be punished! 

[Ghostmaker]

Pretty much. The ruling junta of TBP really hates backtalk.

[Grognard GM]

The officers of every spiteful ideology are always kids that were unpopular and bullied growing up, and lust for petty power over others.

[Ratman_tf]

"Time and again you have been told to stop playing junior moderator and you never seem to listen. We're giving you a week off in the hopes that it might sink in this time. Rethink your posting style if you wish to remain on the board. Furthermore you are banned from this thread and future iterations, if the thread is ever reopened."

Don't answer back to teacher or you'll be punished! 

Hell, it's about time someone acted like a moderator over there.

[Dan Davenport]

"Time and again you have been told to stop playing junior moderator and you never seem to listen. We're giving you a week off in the hopes that it might sink in this time. Rethink your posting style if you wish to remain on the board. Furthermore you are banned from this thread and future iterations, if the thread is ever reopened."

Don't answer back to teacher or you'll be punished! 

Yeah, funny thing about that... The mods were totally fine with me getting dogpiled while I was a mod and took conservative positions.