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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #2175 on: August 04, 2022, 06:43:18 PM »

I was lazily checking that one when I stumbled into this by a certain Grumpygoat...

Anyone who uses an Admiral Holdo avatar is pretty much giving the game away right there... :)

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OK, the usual word salad against anything HPL, but... What is wrong with non-white Christian cultures?? Do you hate Copts?? :o

   They do, if not consciously--I remain convinced that hatred of Christianity is the underlying creed of TBP, although largely unconscious at this point--but they can't admit that. :) It appears "white Christian" was the shibboleth being modified by "non-" as a single phrase, rather than "non-white" modifying "Christian", but they need the qualifier because their self-image as Defender of BIPOC and Other Oppressed Minorities trumps (at least consciously) their Christophobia.

Not really, I bet Admiral Gender Studies was talking mainly about Islam and other religions except Christianity (and Judaism they hate the Jews). To them, any Christian colored people POC suffer from internalized racism.

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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #2176 on: August 05, 2022, 05:25:09 AM »
  So much for being loud, proud, and stunning and brave I guess.  If you are the sodomy sort, wtf would you move to a country that criminalizes it?

I mean, if you're the conservative sort, why would you stay in the US where you see the woke boogeyman around every corner? Why not follow Pundit to Uruguay where it seems things are not as bad regarding those kinds of issues? I imagine your answer is similar to this person's answer - there are a lot of reasons to be somewhere which take a higher priority than "There's a lot of people who don't like me here."

  Seeing as my family...out to about 300+ years has been in the USA and built this wonderful nation for others to enjoy....I think staying is also a choice.   If my wife would do it I would already be in Ecuador.  But this is MY nation.  People not liking him is a shit load different than being a criminal due to sodomy.  So I am not sure I buy this as any sort of actual comparison.   As for seeing woke around every corner, no it seems there are only a small very loud, very degenerate handful screeching non stop that men are women and that is settled science.  I think the time for those honoring themselves over such nonsense (celebrating mental illness as some virtue) is soon to come to an end.

How does this position mesh with the other thread wherein it's being argued people are being imprisoned and denied work and other ordinary freedoms for refusing to get vaccinated? Sure sounds like "woke people have turned me into a criminal" type stuff that, according to your logic, is more than enough to gtfo of a nation over?

  If I were a rat that flees a ship as soon is it springs a leak, you would be correct.  Also you pretend the argument is some imaginary feeling.  People ARE fired for not getting a vax.  That is a point blank fact.  I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.  I think the sentiment is, if the same people shitcanning people over a vax could jail them they would.   Going somewhere by choice where you will be a criminal on landing is ALOT different than suddenly becoming an outsider....the second it is time to fight not flee.  I guess some people view refugees fleeing like rats on a ship taking on water as heroic.  I do not.  If you are not willing to fight and die for what is yours you are simply not a man. 

   I personally would move somewhere else that is less gone to rot with people getting fat, soft, and mentally weak at an exponential rate.  Covid has made this into a whole different thing though, and it seems massive global pharma companies can dictate policy the world over.  So...I am for staying where the family wants to be.  I have hopes it does not come to bloody violence, but I most certainly prefer bloody violence to continued capitulation to loons who feel they define reality from insane fever dreams.
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« Reply #2177 on: August 05, 2022, 09:38:56 AM »
  So much for being loud, proud, and stunning and brave I guess.  If you are the sodomy sort, wtf would you move to a country that criminalizes it?

I mean, if you're the conservative sort, why would you stay in the US where you see the woke boogeyman around every corner? Why not follow Pundit to Uruguay where it seems things are not as bad regarding those kinds of issues? I imagine your answer is similar to this person's answer - there are a lot of reasons to be somewhere which take a higher priority than "There's a lot of people who don't like me here."

  Seeing as my family...out to about 300+ years has been in the USA and built this wonderful nation for others to enjoy....I think staying is also a choice.   If my wife would do it I would already be in Ecuador.  But this is MY nation.  People not liking him is a shit load different than being a criminal due to sodomy.  So I am not sure I buy this as any sort of actual comparison.   As for seeing woke around every corner, no it seems there are only a small very loud, very degenerate handful screeching non stop that men are women and that is settled science.  I think the time for those honoring themselves over such nonsense (celebrating mental illness as some virtue) is soon to come to an end.

How does this position mesh with the other thread wherein it's being argued people are being imprisoned and denied work and other ordinary freedoms for refusing to get vaccinated? Sure sounds like "woke people have turned me into a criminal" type stuff that, according to your logic, is more than enough to gtfo of a nation over?

  If I were a rat that flees a ship as soon is it springs a leak, you would be correct.  Also you pretend the argument is some imaginary feeling.  People ARE fired for not getting a vax.  That is a point blank fact.  I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.  I think the sentiment is, if the same people shitcanning people over a vax could jail them they would.   Going somewhere by choice where you will be a criminal on landing is ALOT different than suddenly becoming an outsider....the second it is time to fight not flee.  I guess some people view refugees fleeing like rats on a ship taking on water as heroic.  I do not.  If you are not willing to fight and die for what is yours you are simply not a man. 

   I personally would move somewhere else that is less gone to rot with people getting fat, soft, and mentally weak at an exponential rate.  Covid has made this into a whole different thing though, and it seems massive global pharma companies can dictate policy the world over.  So...I am for staying where the family wants to be.  I have hopes it does not come to bloody violence, but I most certainly prefer bloody violence to continued capitulation to loons who feel they define reality from insane fever dreams.
Also worth noting; the United States is a huge country and extremely heterogeneous in terms of its political and economic situation. You mostly hear about the chaos in the big cities and the heavy-handed dictates of Blue State Governors and you’d think the country is on the edge of collapse while out here in flyover country things are entirely back to pre-pandemic conditions (and have been since early 2021) except for the inflated prices (i.e. gas currently at $4.25 a gallon).

Basically, there’s no need to flee from a place where you can wear MAGA hats openly and you see more veils on the heads of teenage girls at Mass (counter-culture these days is voluntarily going back to old traditions) than you do people clinging to their masks (I counted six veils and two mask at our last thousand person Mass) and your mayor shut down the BLM protests in 2020 with tear-gas and arrests (holding them over the entire weekend since the courts are closed on weekends) the moment the first window got broken.

Basically, New York, California, Chicago and other Leftist hellholes are not the extent of the country. Frankly the sane parts have the crazies completely surrounded.

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« Reply #2178 on: August 05, 2022, 12:32:03 PM »
There's an interesting thread on TBP about 'bad business decisions' that I admit I'm rather enjoying (despite the repeated genuflections from posters towards 'capitalism bad, durr'). However, stating that the fall of disco was caused by racism, homophobia, and white supremacy is a fascinating take on things.


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« Reply #2179 on: August 05, 2022, 01:57:02 PM »
I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.

OH you finally arrived at my point.

Could it also be this guy is making a hyperbolic point that he will somehow face jeopardy in his new nation (which he has been in for years now) over posts he made USING AN ALIAS on a role playing game message board years ago?

I think this guy is attention whoring, or otherwise playing himself up as a victim. He's trying to say, "Oh oh I am oppressed you need to help me, see my oppression!" over something meaningless and which has zero chance of him being oppressed.

Nobody was going to care about his podcast. Nobody was going to try and crack his prior message board aliases (or was even aware of that message board, in a different language even, in his new nation) and read through his thousands of messages to try and find some clue that he might be LGBTQ+.

In fact they only chance anyone could ever do that IS HIS PUBLIC COMPLAINT ABOUT IT CALLING ATTENTION TO IT. Now people can connect the dots on what nation he's in, that he will have a new podcast there coming up, and that his user name on that message board is that, and that there was something at issue with his posts.

If he really cared about this issue the way he claims he cares about it, we would never have seen or known any of this. It would have all been done in private messages, or he would have simply deleted his own posts himself. Obviously. Unless he's truly a complete idiot. In which case we again come back to the point that nobody will ever care about his podcast.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #2180 on: August 05, 2022, 02:29:39 PM »
There's an interesting thread on TBP about 'bad business decisions' that I admit I'm rather enjoying (despite the repeated genuflections from posters towards 'capitalism bad, durr'). However, stating that the fall of disco was caused by racism, homophobia, and white supremacy is a fascinating take on things.

What a joke. Bad business decisions are made in defiance of capitalism, not as a result of it.
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« Reply #2181 on: August 05, 2022, 07:20:58 PM »
OK, this one's a doozy.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/diogenes_castor-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-two-day-ban.900533/

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In this case, the authority cited comes from an Orthodox Jewish site. Orthodox Judaism is a modern ultraconservative subgroup of Judaism, founded in 1820 as a reaction against older progressive Jewish movements. Its "traditions" are younger than Jane Austen, younger than canned food. Orthodox Judaism is about 7% of all modern Judaism. It does not come close to speaking for all Jewish peoples.



Further, consider and respect that other people in the thread may have deeper experience of particular religions than you. Telling a Jewish poster that "a quick google" refutes their knowledge of their own faith is unacceptable.

   The first two paragraphs and the third paragraph seem to contradict one another ("Other people have different lived experiences ... but we can judge what is and isn't theologically legitimate!"), and that second paragraph ... can you tell me that if a regular poster had written that, they wouldn't be banned permanently and hounded out of the entire hobby for anti-Semitism?

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« Reply #2182 on: August 06, 2022, 12:13:53 AM »
  So much for being loud, proud, and stunning and brave I guess.  If you are the sodomy sort, wtf would you move to a country that criminalizes it?

I mean, if you're the conservative sort, why would you stay in the US where you see the woke boogeyman around every corner? Why not follow Pundit to Uruguay where it seems things are not as bad regarding those kinds of issues? I imagine your answer is similar to this person's answer - there are a lot of reasons to be somewhere which take a higher priority than "There's a lot of people who don't like me here."

  Seeing as my family...out to about 300+ years has been in the USA and built this wonderful nation for others to enjoy....I think staying is also a choice.   If my wife would do it I would already be in Ecuador.  But this is MY nation.  People not liking him is a shit load different than being a criminal due to sodomy.  So I am not sure I buy this as any sort of actual comparison.   As for seeing woke around every corner, no it seems there are only a small very loud, very degenerate handful screeching non stop that men are women and that is settled science.  I think the time for those honoring themselves over such nonsense (celebrating mental illness as some virtue) is soon to come to an end.

How does this position mesh with the other thread wherein it's being argued people are being imprisoned and denied work and other ordinary freedoms for refusing to get vaccinated? Sure sounds like "woke people have turned me into a criminal" type stuff that, according to your logic, is more than enough to gtfo of a nation over?

  If I were a rat that flees a ship as soon is it springs a leak, you would be correct.  Also you pretend the argument is some imaginary feeling.  People ARE fired for not getting a vax.  That is a point blank fact.  I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.

Hardly. The OP is a link to a street poll where people were supportive of the idea of jailing people who refused the vax. That was the point of the thread. Mistwell wants to misrepresent that to distract from how fucking insane people got over the vaccinations.
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Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Reply #2183 on: August 06, 2022, 07:31:52 PM »
  So much for being loud, proud, and stunning and brave I guess.  If you are the sodomy sort, wtf would you move to a country that criminalizes it?

I mean, if you're the conservative sort, why would you stay in the US where you see the woke boogeyman around every corner? Why not follow Pundit to Uruguay where it seems things are not as bad regarding those kinds of issues? I imagine your answer is similar to this person's answer - there are a lot of reasons to be somewhere which take a higher priority than "There's a lot of people who don't like me here."

  Seeing as my family...out to about 300+ years has been in the USA and built this wonderful nation for others to enjoy....I think staying is also a choice.   If my wife would do it I would already be in Ecuador.  But this is MY nation.  People not liking him is a shit load different than being a criminal due to sodomy.  So I am not sure I buy this as any sort of actual comparison.   As for seeing woke around every corner, no it seems there are only a small very loud, very degenerate handful screeching non stop that men are women and that is settled science.  I think the time for those honoring themselves over such nonsense (celebrating mental illness as some virtue) is soon to come to an end.

How does this position mesh with the other thread wherein it's being argued people are being imprisoned and denied work and other ordinary freedoms for refusing to get vaccinated? Sure sounds like "woke people have turned me into a criminal" type stuff that, according to your logic, is more than enough to gtfo of a nation over?

  If I were a rat that flees a ship as soon is it springs a leak, you would be correct.  Also you pretend the argument is some imaginary feeling.  People ARE fired for not getting a vax.  That is a point blank fact.  I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.  I think the sentiment is, if the same people shitcanning people over a vax could jail them they would.   Going somewhere by choice where you will be a criminal on landing is ALOT different than suddenly becoming an outsider....the second it is time to fight not flee.  I guess some people view refugees fleeing like rats on a ship taking on water as heroic.  I do not.  If you are not willing to fight and die for what is yours you are simply not a man. 

   I personally would move somewhere else that is less gone to rot with people getting fat, soft, and mentally weak at an exponential rate.  Covid has made this into a whole different thing though, and it seems massive global pharma companies can dictate policy the world over.  So...I am for staying where the family wants to be.  I have hopes it does not come to bloody violence, but I most certainly prefer bloody violence to continued capitulation to loons who feel they define reality from insane fever dreams.
Also worth noting; the United States is a huge country and extremely heterogeneous in terms of its political and economic situation. You mostly hear about the chaos in the big cities and the heavy-handed dictates of Blue State Governors and you’d think the country is on the edge of collapse while out here in flyover country things are entirely back to pre-pandemic conditions (and have been since early 2021) except for the inflated prices (i.e. gas currently at $4.25 a gallon).

Basically, there’s no need to flee from a place where you can wear MAGA hats openly and you see more veils on the heads of teenage girls at Mass (counter-culture these days is voluntarily going back to old traditions) than you do people clinging to their masks (I counted six veils and two mask at our last thousand person Mass) and your mayor shut down the BLM protests in 2020 with tear-gas and arrests (holding them over the entire weekend since the courts are closed on weekends) the moment the first window got broken.

Basically, New York, California, Chicago and other Leftist hellholes are not the extent of the country. Frankly the sane parts have the crazies completely surrounded.

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In the town I live in, on the edge a ways, there is a steel plant. A modest plant thing that makes tools or something. Anyhow, I was driving by recently--in their employee parking lot, a long row of pick-up trucks proudly flying TRUMP flags!

Then again, my neighborhood also features many houses that have Trump flags, and American flags, on their front lawns and porches.

All of that is normal where I live.

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« Reply #2184 on: August 07, 2022, 06:14:31 PM »
  So much for being loud, proud, and stunning and brave I guess.  If you are the sodomy sort, wtf would you move to a country that criminalizes it?

I mean, if you're the conservative sort, why would you stay in the US where you see the woke boogeyman around every corner? Why not follow Pundit to Uruguay where it seems things are not as bad regarding those kinds of issues? I imagine your answer is similar to this person's answer - there are a lot of reasons to be somewhere which take a higher priority than "There's a lot of people who don't like me here."

  Seeing as my family...out to about 300+ years has been in the USA and built this wonderful nation for others to enjoy....I think staying is also a choice.   If my wife would do it I would already be in Ecuador.  But this is MY nation.  People not liking him is a shit load different than being a criminal due to sodomy.  So I am not sure I buy this as any sort of actual comparison.   As for seeing woke around every corner, no it seems there are only a small very loud, very degenerate handful screeching non stop that men are women and that is settled science.  I think the time for those honoring themselves over such nonsense (celebrating mental illness as some virtue) is soon to come to an end.

How does this position mesh with the other thread wherein it's being argued people are being imprisoned and denied work and other ordinary freedoms for refusing to get vaccinated? Sure sounds like "woke people have turned me into a criminal" type stuff that, according to your logic, is more than enough to gtfo of a nation over?

  If I were a rat that flees a ship as soon is it springs a leak, you would be correct.  Also you pretend the argument is some imaginary feeling.  People ARE fired for not getting a vax.  That is a point blank fact.  I did not see anyone saying people are criminalized in the USA over the vax, the title of that thread is hyperbolic and I would think a smart guy like you knows this.  I think the sentiment is, if the same people shitcanning people over a vax could jail them they would.   Going somewhere by choice where you will be a criminal on landing is ALOT different than suddenly becoming an outsider....the second it is time to fight not flee.  I guess some people view refugees fleeing like rats on a ship taking on water as heroic.  I do not.  If you are not willing to fight and die for what is yours you are simply not a man. 

   I personally would move somewhere else that is less gone to rot with people getting fat, soft, and mentally weak at an exponential rate.  Covid has made this into a whole different thing though, and it seems massive global pharma companies can dictate policy the world over.  So...I am for staying where the family wants to be.  I have hopes it does not come to bloody violence, but I most certainly prefer bloody violence to continued capitulation to loons who feel they define reality from insane fever dreams.
Also worth noting; the United States is a huge country and extremely heterogeneous in terms of its political and economic situation. You mostly hear about the chaos in the big cities and the heavy-handed dictates of Blue State Governors and you’d think the country is on the edge of collapse while out here in flyover country things are entirely back to pre-pandemic conditions (and have been since early 2021) except for the inflated prices (i.e. gas currently at $4.25 a gallon).

Basically, there’s no need to flee from a place where you can wear MAGA hats openly and you see more veils on the heads of teenage girls at Mass (counter-culture these days is voluntarily going back to old traditions) than you do people clinging to their masks (I counted six veils and two mask at our last thousand person Mass) and your mayor shut down the BLM protests in 2020 with tear-gas and arrests (holding them over the entire weekend since the courts are closed on weekends) the moment the first window got broken.

Basically, New York, California, Chicago and other Leftist hellholes are not the extent of the country. Frankly the sane parts have the crazies completely surrounded.

Greetings!

In the town I live in, on the edge a ways, there is a steel plant. A modest plant thing that makes tools or something. Anyhow, I was driving by recently--in their employee parking lot, a long row of pick-up trucks proudly flying TRUMP flags!

Then again, my neighborhood also features many houses that have Trump flags, and American flags, on their front lawns and porches.

All of that is normal where I live.

Semper Fidelis,

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Similar here. A lot of military flags (Hooyah!), fuck Joe Biden flags, Trump flags and so on. Very much not a snowflake town.
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« Reply #2185 on: August 07, 2022, 08:25:28 PM »
I live in Los Angeles, and directly across the street from my house is a huge banner on the fence than says Let's Go Brandon. It's been there over a year now. The way people talk about Los Angeles you'd think that guy would have been executed on sight.

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« Reply #2186 on: August 07, 2022, 08:54:54 PM »
I live in Los Angeles, and directly across the street from my house is a huge banner on the fence than says Let's Go Brandon. It's been there over a year now. The way people talk about Los Angeles you'd think that guy would have been executed on sight.

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« Reply #2187 on: August 08, 2022, 04:20:01 PM »
I live in Los Angeles, and directly across the street from my house is a huge banner on the fence than says Let's Go Brandon. It's been there over a year now. The way people talk about Los Angeles you'd think that guy would have been executed on sight.

"My neighbor is a Trump supporter, so I must be OK!" and other lies that scared Leftists tell themselves in the face of an upcoming election.

LOLwut? Where did I say or imply anything about me in that? I was talking about the city of Los Angeles, which isn't to be confused with the individual of me.