RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Battlemaster]

Do you think the mods get a sadistic kick out of givibg someone a ban withbtge ominous warning about future action, waiting a week or two then upping it to a permaban? One they can't see?

Honestly at times I'm amazed no one has fucked with one on them IRL.  you hear these horror stories about net stalkers and shit but nothing seem to happen to these assholes.

[Ghostmaker]

Do you think the mods get a sadistic kick out of givibg someone a ban withbtge ominous warning about future action, waiting a week or two then upping it to a permaban? One they can't see?

Honestly at times I'm amazed no one has fucked with one on them IRL.  you hear these horror stories about net stalkers and shit but nothing seem to happen to these assholes.

First question, yes. Absolutely. Tanka was IMO one of the worst offenders, but I do believe they get cheap thrills out of swinging the banhammer. With their moronic policy of 'the onus is on the poster', there'll always be an endless supply of wrongthinkers to be clubbed.

Second part, though... let's be honest. TBP is a rapidly shrinking pond. It becomes less relevant every time they ban some poor schmuck. And, sadly, the net stalkers are already there on TBP (hell, a number of them are probably mods). So who's left to call them to account?

It's why I've speculated on what exactly the holding company for TBP, Dyvers Hands, actually DOES.

[Shasarak]

Do you think the mods get a sadistic kick out of givibg someone a ban withbtge ominous warning about future action, waiting a week or two then upping it to a permaban? One they can't see?

Honestly at times I'm amazed no one has fucked with one on them IRL.  you hear these horror stories about net stalkers and shit but nothing seem to happen to these assholes.

First question, yes. Absolutely. Tanka was IMO one of the worst offenders, but I do believe they get cheap thrills out of swinging the banhammer. With their moronic policy of 'the onus is on the poster', there'll always be an endless supply of wrongthinkers to be clubbed.

Second part, though... let's be honest. TBP is a rapidly shrinking pond. It becomes less relevant every time they ban some poor schmuck. And, sadly, the net stalkers are already there on TBP (hell, a number of them are probably mods). So who's left to call them to account?

It's why I've speculated on what exactly the holding company for TBP, Dyvers Hands, actually DOES.

Who else is going to take up the burden of protecting innocent RPGers from Trumpers?

It is actually a very stressful job where even your closest companions can be corrupted at any time.

[jeff37923]

Do you think the mods get a sadistic kick out of givibg someone a ban withbtge ominous warning about future action, waiting a week or two then upping it to a permaban? One they can't see?

Honestly at times I'm amazed no one has fucked with one on them IRL.  you hear these horror stories about net stalkers and shit but nothing seem to happen to these assholes.

First question, yes. Absolutely. Tanka was IMO one of the worst offenders, but I do believe they get cheap thrills out of swinging the banhammer. With their moronic policy of 'the onus is on the poster', there'll always be an endless supply of wrongthinkers to be clubbed.

Second part, though... let's be honest. TBP is a rapidly shrinking pond. It becomes less relevant every time they ban some poor schmuck. And, sadly, the net stalkers are already there on TBP (hell, a number of them are probably mods). So who's left to call them to account?

It's why I've speculated on what exactly the holding company for TBP, Dyvers Hands, actually DOES.

Who else is going to take up the burden of protecting innocent RPGers from Trumpers?

It is actually a very stressful job where even your closest companions can be corrupted at any time.

Wrell, Battlemaster seems to be bucking for the job of Trumper Anti-Paladin.

[Ghostmaker]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/sabermane-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-careless-use-of-sexist-language.899214/

I find this one interesting in that they're giving him the three-day for 'using rape casually' but the post says 'careless use of sexist language'.

But then, it's Bcaugust, and it's a retard. What else is new?

[David Johansen]

I got a "rape joke" ban for suggesting that the church in GURPS Banestorm wouldn't approve of molesting slaves because it was adultry.

[wmarshal]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/sabermane-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-careless-use-of-sexist-language.899214/

I find this one interesting in that they're giving him the three-day for 'using rape casually' but the post says 'careless use of sexist language'.

But then, it's Bcaugust, and it's a retard. What else is new?

Sabermane's post is humorous. It's yet another sign that the mods at TBP are in a totalitarian-minded cult. Totalitarian mindsets find it difficult to not take comedy as a threat.

[Fergurg]

Just putting this here.

Sabermane's post is humorous. It's yet another sign that the mods at TBP are in a totalitarian-minded cult. Totalitarian mindsets find it difficult to not take comedy as a threat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txJtMaKcs70

[Stephen Tannhauser]

Totalitarian mindsets find it difficult to not take comedy as a threat.

I would be interested to see what kind of overlap there is between affinity for collectivist politics and the experience of being regularly humiliated, mocked and laughed at as a child. When your formative experience of laughter and jokes is as something which people you hate enjoy at your expense, it's easier to understand why comedy can be seen as threatening, and why speech-restriction laws appear to be a good thing in practice.

And let's be honest: comedy is threatening. Making a joke out of anything is a way to diminish the respect and prestige assigned it by society, which is a very real way to undermine certain modes of power; comedians and satirists today make a big public deal out of "punching up" rather than "punching down", but the most telling element is seeing what they do as "punching" to begin with.

Hence, as always, it comes back to TBP's dedication to "safe spaces", and their consequent fatal mistake of thinking that a safe space must necessarily be a painless space, at least for those they favour protecting.

[Trond]

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/sabermane-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-careless-use-of-sexist-language.899214/

I find this one interesting in that they're giving him the three-day for 'using rape casually' but the post says 'careless use of sexist language'.

But then, it's Bcaugust, and it's a retard. What else is new?

Sabermane.....hmmmm. That sounds so familiar. I think had some sort of argument with Sabermane at one point but I honestly can't remember. Part of the old "Unfunny Feminist Brigade" perhaps?

[Battlemaster]

Totalitarian mindsets find it difficult to not take comedy as a threat.

I would be interested to see what kind of overlap there is between affinity for collectivist politics and the experience of being regularly humiliated, mocked and laughed at as a child. When your formative experience of laughter and jokes is as something which people you hate enjoy at your expense, it's easier to understand why comedy can be seen as threatening, and why speech-restriction laws appear to be a good thing in practice.

And let's be honest: comedy is threatening. Making a joke out of anything is a way to diminish the respect and prestige assigned it by society, which is a very real way to undermine certain modes of power; comedians and satirists today make a big public deal out of "punching up" rather than "punching down", but the most telling element is seeing what they do as "punching" to begin with.

Hence, as always, it comes back to TBP's dedication to "safe spaces", and their consequent fatal mistake of thinking that a safe space must necessarily be a painless space, at least for those they favour protecting.

This is a surprisingly wise and sensitive observation, and one I will remeber and consider. It does help humanize and understand some people.

Still tho the mods at tbp used to make a policy of mocking and taunting banned users, I recall that, so they were cool with cruel for a long time.

[Eirikrautha]

Totalitarian mindsets find it difficult to not take comedy as a threat.

I would be interested to see what kind of overlap there is between affinity for collectivist politics and the experience of being regularly humiliated, mocked and laughed at as a child. When your formative experience of laughter and jokes is as something which people you hate enjoy at your expense, it's easier to understand why comedy can be seen as threatening, and why speech-restriction laws appear to be a good thing in practice.

And let's be honest: comedy is threatening. Making a joke out of anything is a way to diminish the respect and prestige assigned it by society, which is a very real way to undermine certain modes of power; comedians and satirists today make a big public deal out of "punching up" rather than "punching down", but the most telling element is seeing what they do as "punching" to begin with.

Hence, as always, it comes back to TBP's dedication to "safe spaces", and their consequent fatal mistake of thinking that a safe space must necessarily be a painless space, at least for those they favour protecting.

I'd argue that the correletation is inverse, actually.  As someone who faced cruel jokes at my expense in school, I just got thicker skinned and sharper tongued.  Most of my nerd peer group was the same.  We used to say worse stuff to each other (our friends) than we ever heard from outside.  I think the vast majority of the woke-scolds have been so sheltered and protected that they've never actually faced "hurtful" words.  Heck, "Sticks and stones..." was still the operative advice by all adults if you complained about it back then.  I don't think this comes from damage; it comes from fragility.

[Stephen Tannhauser]

I'd argue that the correlation is inverse, actually.  As someone who faced cruel jokes at my expense in school, I just got thicker skinned and sharper tongued.

I don't think this comes from damage; it comes from fragility.

Fragility can be induced by damage as well as by sheltering. Tempering strengthens some blades but breaks others, especially if done too quickly or severely.

The attitude of the SJ philosophy is that when the "blades" are people, even one broken blade is too many. Which sounds highly virtuous, but overlooks the practical reality that trying to protect everyone from any kind of psychological discomfort only produces people unable to bear any degree of it, which ultimately does more damage in the long run when that discomfort inevitably occurs.  (The flip side of this, of course, is that it's entirely reasonable to be skeptical of those who use this principle to argue too fervently for allowing people to suffer for "their own good".)

[Ratman_tf]

I'd argue that the correlation is inverse, actually.  As someone who faced cruel jokes at my expense in school, I just got thicker skinned and sharper tongued.

I don't think this comes from damage; it comes from fragility.

Fragility can be induced by damage as well as by sheltering. Tempering strengthens some blades but breaks others, especially if done too quickly or severely.

As another person who was harassed at school, it made me antisocial. I didn't trust anyone I didn't already know very well to not be an asshole who wanted to torment me. It took me decades after leaving school to get over it and see any other human being as other than a likely tormenter, and to get some amount of self-confidence and sense of self-worth. It affected my working and social life. I thought I was less than dirt and I didn't deserve even the bare minimum of dignity.

My public school days literally ruined my life, and it took a lot of work to undo just some of that damage.

[Mistwell]

Sigh. Jeff I keep hoping a covid virus with your name on it ends up tettibg drawn into that ever open mouth of yours. You do nothing but throw shit into the world and it would be a less awful place if you were removed from it.

Woah. Jeff talks shit like everyone else, but he isn't THAT guy! (and he hates me - so my defending him should be a clue you might be off base). Maybe you just need to talk gaming with him.

You are full of more shit than a Christmas Turkey....

How much shit is in a Christmas Turkey? I'm a vegetarian Jew so this is one of those references that goes right over my head