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RPGNet, Hat In Hand

Started by jeff37923, November 24, 2013, 03:04:44 AM

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The Traveller

#15
November 24, 2013, 12:02:23 PM
Quote from: AaronBrown99;711241I'm new here, so to dispel my ignorance, what is 'tbp'?
It's an acronym that means various things, my favourite is "the bulging pimple", but which generally refers to another gaming forum, rpg.net.

Although to describe it as a gaming forum is generous; while gaming discussions do take place most of the posters there are very wary not to step on any number of landmines, political doctrines, or personalities.

Looking briefly over the trouble tickets subforum one can quickly see that a kind of stockholm syndrome has seized the place - posters are too busy not making any sudden movements around the mods to step back and ask themselves, "why in the blue christ am I putting up with this shit from these idiots?" I guess nostalgia keeps many there, it used to be a good site once.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

TristramEvans

#16
November 24, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: AaronBrown99;711241I'm new here, so to dispel my ignorance, what is 'tbp'?

"The big purple" = rpgnet

Used to be the best site for online rpg discussion but it was taken over by a group of wackos

AaronBrown99

#17
November 24, 2013, 12:10:57 PM
Ahh I get it, thanks. I used to read there.

I stopped paying attention to their site when I was nearly banned for expressing my distaste for White Wolf's use of 'she' as the default generic pronoun, in defiance of hundreds of years of standard English usage.

That and their constant gushing glad-handing over how 'inclusive' they are for their dripping 'white knight' attitudes.

Thanks for the clarification!
"Who cares if the classes are balanced? A Cosmo-Knight and a Vagabond walk into a Juicer Bar... Forget it Jake, it\'s Rifts."  - CRKrueger

Arduin

#18
November 24, 2013, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: AaronBrown99;711244Ahh I get it, thanks. I used to read there.

I stopped paying attention to their site when I was nearly banned for expressing my distaste for White Wolf's use of 'she' as the default generic pronoun, in defiance of hundreds of years of standard English usage.

That and their constant gushing glad-handing over how 'inclusive' they are for their dripping 'white knight' attitudes.

Thanks for the clarification!

Their best bet to get $ is probably to reach out to the trans-gender & trans-species groups and ask for donations...

Frundsberg

#19
November 24, 2013, 01:10:36 PM
The Great Purge is on its way. As soon as the funding ends, they'll proceed to ban any non-contributor.

Tahmoh

#20
November 24, 2013, 01:23:32 PM
If they just split the tangency side off into its own place and got some actual gamers in as the mods for the rpg sections i'd be happy to throw them a few bucks...but since they cant even offer a search option nor clear out the inactive members and a bunch of the none gaming trolls who infect the rpg sections i would rather they just die out and let an actual gaming forum take the domain name.

TristramEvans

#21
November 24, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
What involvement does Skotos have with rpgnet these days?

Géza Echs

#22
November 24, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
I don't get it. With sufficient donations Shannon - who owns the place - and other staff will give one or more weeks of work to fixing up the site? Isn't that their job? How is that a reward for donations? It sounds like what they're supposed to be doing every single day.

Harl Quinn

#23
November 24, 2013, 02:49:26 PM Last Edit: November 24, 2013, 03:27:29 PM by Harl Quinn
Quote from: TristramEvans;711268What involvement does Skotos have with rpgnet these days?

If they're wise, their involvement is at arm's length. Then again, I don't see Skotos ads cropping up across the Internet like wildflowers anyway...

Quote from: Géza Echs;711269I don't get it. With sufficient donations Shannon - who owns the place - and other staff will give one or more weeks of work to fixing up the site? Isn't that their job? How is that a reward for donations? It sounds like what they're supposed to be doing every single day.

Hey, those non-gaming hookers and bricks of blow don't buy themselves, you know!

Quote from: Frundsberg;711252The Great Purge is on its way. As soon as the funding ends, they'll proceed to ban any non-contributor.

Of course, because some people are more equal than others!

Quote from: Arduin;711247Their best bet to get $ is probably to reach out to the trans-gender & trans-species groups and ask for donations...

Case in point... How long is it going to be before they're openly chanting the proclamations of Zardoz mixed with Orwell's "Animal Farm"?

Then again, why worry about it? Let the lemmings fall off their cliff. Much as I enjoy a good jab at TBP to let some bottled up pus out, all we really need to do is keep discussing RPGs in a somewhat civil but lively fashion here while they navel gaze and fap away to whatever it is that floats their boat that hour. Eventually someone in Skotos' management will realize what a money pit the forum is and kill it off or TBP will start to sink and take Skotos with it...

EDIT: Just as an addendum, I will personally laugh my ass off if the whole Kickstarter fails or if someone actually pulls an "Encik Farhan" or otherwise complains about their stretch goals or non-delivery of "the goods". I could stand to lose that weight anyways...

EDIT the 2nd: Looks like we know seven of the backers... So it's not a full 1/3 like I said... I stand by the sentiment of my previous post :P... "Awesome place" indeed...

Later...

Harl
"...maybe this has to do with my being around at the start of published RPGs and the DIY attitude that we all had back then but, it seems to me that if you don\'t find whatever RPG you are playing sufficiently inclusive you ought to get up off your ass and GM something that you do find sufficiently inclusive. The RPG setting of your dreams is yours to create. Don\'t sit waiting and whining for someone else to create it for you." -- Bren speaking on inclusivity in RPGs

Tahmoh

#24
November 24, 2013, 04:18:05 PM
Weird, anyone else getting a reloading glitch when they click that link? like the site cant seem to finish loading the page even though it's actually loaded?  maybe the sites really as fucked up as the members these days in which case maybe just kill it and be done with it.

Grymbok

#25
November 24, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Géza Echs;711269I don't get it. With sufficient donations Shannon - who owns the place - and other staff will give one or more weeks of work to fixing up the site? Isn't that their job? How is that a reward for donations? It sounds like what they're supposed to be doing every single day.

I assume the point is that Shannon spends all his time working on the other Skotos products, which all have a subscription revenue stream. This funding drive will "allow" him to divert his time to RPGnet.

The Traveller

#26
November 24, 2013, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: Harl Quinn;711270EDIT: Just as an addendum, I will personally laugh my ass off if the whole Kickstarter fails or if someone actually pulls an "Encik Farhan" or otherwise complains about their stretch goals or non-delivery of "the goods". I could stand to lose that weight anyways...
Nah they'll make it alright, it'll probably stretch to five or ten grand, it's been slowly creeping up day by day. I've been watching it for the last few days but didn't start a thread here as I didn't want to give it any publicity.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

The Traveller

#27
November 24, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: Grymbok;711302I assume the point is that Shannon spends all his time working on the other Skotos products, which all have a subscription revenue stream. This funding drive will "allow" him to divert his time to RPGnet.
Have you seen their other products? The flagships are a collection of text based MUDs that would have been advanced back in 1992.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Géza Echs

#28
November 24, 2013, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: Grymbok;711302I assume the point is that Shannon spends all his time working on the other Skotos products, which all have a subscription revenue stream. This funding drive will "allow" him to divert his time to RPGnet.

There are other Skotos projects? I thought RPG.net was it, except for maybe that one text-based HPL inspired MUD (that I could never get to work correctly enough to try playing, dang it).

Regardless, it seems weird for me that one of the outcomes of the fundraiser is that they do one standing aspect of their jobs, or assign more staff members to do one standing aspect of their jobs.

Harl Quinn

#29
November 24, 2013, 07:18:36 PM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;711289Weird, anyone else getting a reloading glitch when they click that link? like the site cant seem to finish loading the page even though it's actually loaded?  maybe the sites really as fucked up as the members these days in which case maybe just kill it and be done with it.

Which link? If you're referring to the RPGNet link, it's because it's behind the walls of Tangency, where the unregistered can't go. You have to log in to read it.

If you're referring to the kickstarter/Indiegogo link, it worked for me...

Later...

Harl
"...maybe this has to do with my being around at the start of published RPGs and the DIY attitude that we all had back then but, it seems to me that if you don\'t find whatever RPG you are playing sufficiently inclusive you ought to get up off your ass and GM something that you do find sufficiently inclusive. The RPG setting of your dreams is yours to create. Don\'t sit waiting and whining for someone else to create it for you." -- Bren speaking on inclusivity in RPGs
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