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RPG.net's sexism

Started by RPGPundit, August 05, 2013, 05:00:12 PM

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Zak S

#1005
August 21, 2013, 01:31:16 AM Last Edit: August 21, 2013, 01:48:23 AM by Zak S
Quote from: apparition13;683920Autocrats don't have to be conservative. And censorship isn't an inherently conservative tactic.
You'd get a fight from a lot of progressives about that. When the Reign of Terror happens, progress is over.

And, so, here's the line. It has nothing to do with your guesses about my "training". It's just I happen to agree with the many left-leaning thinkers who equate authoritarianism with conservatism and you don't.

Beyond that it's a political discussion we probably don't need to have.
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Piestrio

#1006
August 21, 2013, 03:26:25 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;683901Well, I'd go with that in the Aristotle-like sense of a "natural" aristocracy of those who actually ARE better.  Of course that's a relative term too.  In practice aristocracy leads to the French Bourbons, the Romanovs and (in fiction) the Lannister-Baratheons.

JG

Sure. Aristocracy in it's purest meaning is simply "rule by the best".

Which, sure, who wouldn't want that?

But as you say, practical problems present themselves.
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Rincewind1

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August 21, 2013, 04:07:25 AM Last Edit: August 21, 2013, 04:09:41 AM by Rincewind1
Quote from: Piestrio;683947Sure. Aristocracy in it's purest meaning is simply "rule by the best".

Which, sure, who wouldn't want that?

But as you say, practical problems present themselves.

Actually if we want to go about purest meaning, it means the rule by "The best powerful", which'd obviously translate rather to the "rule of the most powerful".

Quote from: James Gillen;683901Well, I'd go with that in the Aristotle-like sense of a "natural" aristocracy of those who actually ARE better.  Of course that's a relative term too.  In practice aristocracy leads to the French Bourbons, the Romanovs and (in fiction) the Lannister-Baratheons.

JG

The problem is constant concentration of power by the same set of people. I'm not sure how the West goes about it, but in the East, especially post Soviet states, you can easily see that people who are  getting elected are same people who were up for the vote 20 years ago. I had a cold chuckle when I watched footage that was taken a year before I was born, and recognised 95% of politicians in it. This lack of rotation and accumulation of power and privilege is what's a problem, and it's rooted into the basics of inheritable rule.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

J Arcane

#1008
August 21, 2013, 04:33:02 AM
Man, this conversation is becoming so very RPGnet.

'I can't dispute your actual point, so I'm going to ramble for twenty pages about irrelevant semantics instead.'

Ugh.
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The Ent

#1009
August 21, 2013, 04:48:13 AM
Quote from: J Arcane;683962Man, this conversation is becoming so very RPGnet.

'I can't dispute your actual point, so I'm going to ramble for twenty pages about irrelevant semantics instead.'

Ugh.

YEAH. Seconded.
Interesting threads degenerating into a mire of dozens of pages' worth of pedantic semantics used to be the worst thing about Tang...oh well, human nature.

TristramEvans

#1010
August 21, 2013, 05:50:32 AM

The Ent

#1011
August 21, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;683977

:rotfl:

Yeah, just waiting for it myself too - been for awhile actually, I mean this thread is this big directionless mess (has been for what 50 pages) just begging for :pundit: to come around with the big ol' key. :D

Warboss Squee

#1012
August 21, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
We have become the enemy.

The Traveller

#1013
August 21, 2013, 06:57:30 AM
Quote from: J Arcane;683962Man, this conversation is becoming so very RPGnet.

'I can't dispute your actual point, so I'm going to ramble for twenty pages about irrelevant semantics instead.'

Ugh.
Then we get silly shit like people getting personally offended, linking to porn as some sort of protest, (almost) getting banned despite having thousands of perfectly good posts about gaming...

...and the circle is complete.
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The Ent

#1014
August 21, 2013, 07:06:52 AM
Quote from: Warboss Squee;683998We have become the enemy.

Quote from: The TravellerThen we get silly shit like people getting personally offended, linking to porn as some sort of protest, (almost) getting banned despite having thousands of perfectly good posts about gaming...

...and the circle is complete.

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technoextreme

#1015
August 21, 2013, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: Zak S;683919...or Die Antwoord or Anal Cunt or Killer Mike or...any fucking thing that people who have lives and go outside hear all the time.
Man you really are a sad pathetic person if you think you have to do specific things to have a life.

Planet Algol

#1016
August 21, 2013, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: Zak S;683919...or Die Antwoord or Anal Cunt or Killer Mike or...any fucking thing that people who have lives and go outside hear all the time.

...or the Geto Boys.
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

Ladril

#1017
August 21, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
In befoooore the lock!

hamstertamer

#1018
August 21, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;683956Actually if we want to go about purest meaning, it means the rule by "The best powerful", which'd obviously translate rather to the "rule of the most powerful".



The problem is constant concentration of power by the same set of people. I'm not sure how the West goes about it, but in the East, especially post Soviet states, you can easily see that people who are  getting elected are same people who were up for the vote 20 years ago. I had a cold chuckle when I watched footage that was taken a year before I was born, and recognised 95% of politicians in it. This lack of rotation and accumulation of power and privilege is what's a problem, and it's rooted into the basics of inheritable rule.

In America the powerful like to rule subvertly as opposed to overtly like with a King or dictator.  They allow the idea of democracy, or at least a mass democracy, but only certain candidates are given legitimacy for you choose from in main stream media.  So every where you go around the world, the powerful, and arguably the best of, rule the least powerful and the least capable.  It's just the rulers have different styles really.
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One Horse Town

#1019
August 21, 2013, 03:55:07 PM
You've got no idea...

I've been wanting to close this (and the other one) for about a week. But needs must when the Devil farts in your face.

I think even Pundit will agree that this has wandered over the edge of the map.

Closed motor-scooters!
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